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Michael



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12 Oct 2015, 3:19 pm #441
(12 Oct 2015, 2:59 pm)cbma06 The X35 should be upgraded to cascaded citarios and maybe a revised brand with Wifi etc... to compete against Arriva service 23, the X36 should turn iinto a X56 and come out of the fast cats brand, and some members think that the fast cats brand and the old black cats brand which was for service 26/36 has to do with SAFC, in which these 2 brands have no association with SAFC.

If another service gets new buses with Citaro's (27, Blaydon Racers for example  i think they should go on the X35.

Example of what could happen:

Citaros from Crusader - X35 (8)... along with the X84/X85 (5) - (both include spares)

Citaro's from Blaydon Racers - 8 to the X35 (1 spare) - 2 spares to move or stay at Riverside. 

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The 33/33A/39 should be branded "Black Cats" soon - although we've being waiting months for that to happen.

The Silver Citaro's on the 61 - hopefully are branded soon.

(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.


Well.....  Big Grin
Edited 12 Oct 2015, 3:20 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Oct 2015, 3:19 pm #441

(12 Oct 2015, 2:59 pm)cbma06 The X35 should be upgraded to cascaded citarios and maybe a revised brand with Wifi etc... to compete against Arriva service 23, the X36 should turn iinto a X56 and come out of the fast cats brand, and some members think that the fast cats brand and the old black cats brand which was for service 26/36 has to do with SAFC, in which these 2 brands have no association with SAFC.

If another service gets new buses with Citaro's (27, Blaydon Racers for example  i think they should go on the X35.

Example of what could happen:

Citaros from Crusader - X35 (8)... along with the X84/X85 (5) - (both include spares)

Citaro's from Blaydon Racers - 8 to the X35 (1 spare) - 2 spares to move or stay at Riverside. 

---------------------

The 33/33A/39 should be branded "Black Cats" soon - although we've being waiting months for that to happen.

The Silver Citaro's on the 61 - hopefully are branded soon.

(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.


Well.....  Big Grin


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm #442
Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection times to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.
Edited 12 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm #442

Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection times to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.

12 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm #443
(12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm)GX03 SVC Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.

What ran the service today? 3859?
NK53 TKT
12 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm #443

(12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm)GX03 SVC Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.

What ran the service today? 3859?

Jimmi



10,971
12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm #444
(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.

Although it's likely to be a rumour at this stage, it wouldn't totally surprise me if the X21 does get StreetDecks in the not too distant future.
Jimmi
12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm #444

(12 Oct 2015, 3:16 pm)S813 FVK Welcome aboard the next rumour...

7 Wright Streetdecks have been ordered for the X21.

Just thought i'd make the word rumour bold so i didn't get ridiculed for making it up.

Although it's likely to be a rumour at this stage, it wouldn't totally surprise me if the X21 does get StreetDecks in the not too distant future.

12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm #445
(12 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm)NK53 TKT What ran the service today? 3859?

Yes, 3859. Had a member of GNE staff assisting the driver. Arrived Ashington (from Bed Stn due 1321) 10 minutes late.
omnicity4659
12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm #445

(12 Oct 2015, 3:23 pm)NK53 TKT What ran the service today? 3859?

Yes, 3859. Had a member of GNE staff assisting the driver. Arrived Ashington (from Bed Stn due 1321) 10 minutes late.

Kuyoyo



6,854
12 Oct 2015, 3:26 pm #446
(12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, 3859. Had a member of GNE staff assisting the driver. Arrived Ashington (from Bed Stn due 1321) 10 minutes late.

Funny - it was on time on the 1325 from Ashington to Bedlington Station.

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Kuyoyo
12 Oct 2015, 3:26 pm #446

(12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, 3859. Had a member of GNE staff assisting the driver. Arrived Ashington (from Bed Stn due 1321) 10 minutes late.

Funny - it was on time on the 1325 from Ashington to Bedlington Station.

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12 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm #447
(12 Oct 2015, 3:26 pm)Kuyoyo Funny - it was on time on the 1325 from Ashington to Bedlington Station.

Sorry, meant 1225. What stand did it leave from, was B blocked? It's supposed to leave from C.
omnicity4659
12 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm #447

(12 Oct 2015, 3:26 pm)Kuyoyo Funny - it was on time on the 1325 from Ashington to Bedlington Station.

Sorry, meant 1225. What stand did it leave from, was B blocked? It's supposed to leave from C.

Kuyoyo



6,854
12 Oct 2015, 3:31 pm #448
(12 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm)GX03 SVC Sorry, meant 1225. What stand did it leave from, was B blocked? It's supposed to leave from C.

It used 'D' as the X22 was blocking access to 'B' and 'C' due to the fencing in the road.
Kuyoyo
12 Oct 2015, 3:31 pm #448

(12 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm)GX03 SVC Sorry, meant 1225. What stand did it leave from, was B blocked? It's supposed to leave from C.

It used 'D' as the X22 was blocking access to 'B' and 'C' due to the fencing in the road.

Michael



19,175
12 Oct 2015, 3:37 pm #449
Dan any idea when any more of the "Go North East" buses will receive the vinyls same as 4978?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Oct 2015, 3:37 pm #449

Dan any idea when any more of the "Go North East" buses will receive the vinyls same as 4978?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
12 Oct 2015, 3:43 pm #450
What is the reason behind 3874 being taken out of service? Is it having some serious work done to it or something like that?
S813 FVK
12 Oct 2015, 3:43 pm #450

What is the reason behind 3874 being taken out of service? Is it having some serious work done to it or something like that?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
12 Oct 2015, 3:49 pm #451
(12 Oct 2015, 3:43 pm)S813 FVK What is the reason behind 3874 being taken out of service? Is it having some serious work done to it or something like that?

It returned to Percy Main last month for repairs (noted on our Fleet News at the time), and has been out of service ever since. Once repaired, it will return to service at Stanley.

It is noted as off service on Go North East's Fleet Allocation for internal reasons more than anything else.
Dan
12 Oct 2015, 3:49 pm #451

(12 Oct 2015, 3:43 pm)S813 FVK What is the reason behind 3874 being taken out of service? Is it having some serious work done to it or something like that?

It returned to Percy Main last month for repairs (noted on our Fleet News at the time), and has been out of service ever since. Once repaired, it will return to service at Stanley.

It is noted as off service on Go North East's Fleet Allocation for internal reasons more than anything else.

L469 YVK



3,554
12 Oct 2015, 3:58 pm #452
(12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)Jimmi Although it's likely to be a rumour at this stage, it wouldn't totally surprise me if the X21 does get StreetDecks in the not too distant future.

Depends whether or not the QC's are likely to go ahead. If they do, then it will most likely be Streetdecks but if not, then I can see either the Cobalt Clipper getting Streetdecks with 10 moving to Stanley for the 6, X70, X71 alongside a new brand; and 7 moving to Crook for the X21 (Note that 6104 would be swapped with a Deptford B9 which hasn't been modified yet). In terms of spares, these could simply be made up of Omnidekkas. Or alternatively, the Red Arrows getting E400s with the power and chassis either from Cummins / ADL or Scania / ADL with 6001 to 6007 moving to Crook and the rest acting in various roles including providing a backup for the TTX without having to use the TEN allocation and allowing the B7TL Geminis to move into less demanding roles.

GNE would see far more benefits in the efficiency of the Streetdeck on the Cobalt Clipper than what they would on the X21.
L469 YVK
12 Oct 2015, 3:58 pm #452

(12 Oct 2015, 3:25 pm)Jimmi Although it's likely to be a rumour at this stage, it wouldn't totally surprise me if the X21 does get StreetDecks in the not too distant future.

Depends whether or not the QC's are likely to go ahead. If they do, then it will most likely be Streetdecks but if not, then I can see either the Cobalt Clipper getting Streetdecks with 10 moving to Stanley for the 6, X70, X71 alongside a new brand; and 7 moving to Crook for the X21 (Note that 6104 would be swapped with a Deptford B9 which hasn't been modified yet). In terms of spares, these could simply be made up of Omnidekkas. Or alternatively, the Red Arrows getting E400s with the power and chassis either from Cummins / ADL or Scania / ADL with 6001 to 6007 moving to Crook and the rest acting in various roles including providing a backup for the TTX without having to use the TEN allocation and allowing the B7TL Geminis to move into less demanding roles.

GNE would see far more benefits in the efficiency of the Streetdeck on the Cobalt Clipper than what they would on the X21.

citaro5284



3,233
12 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm #453
(12 Oct 2015, 3:58 pm)DaveyBowyer Depends whether or not the QC's are likely to go ahead. If they do, then it will most likely be Streetdecks but if not, then I can see either the Cobalt Clipper getting Streetdecks with 10 moving to Stanley for the 6, X70, X71 alongside a new brand; and 7 moving to Crook for the X21 (Note that 6104 would be swapped with a Deptford B9 which hasn't been modified yet). In terms of spares, these could simply be made up of Omnidekkas. Or alternatively, the Red Arrows getting E400s with the power and chassis either from Cummins / ADL or Scania / ADL with 6001 to 6007 moving to Crook and the rest acting in various roles including providing a backup for the TTX without having to use the TEN allocation and allowing the B7TL Geminis  to move into less demanding roles.

GNE would see far more benefits in the efficiency of the Streetdeck on the Cobalt Clipper than what they would on the X21.

Explain that one?
citaro5284
12 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm #453

(12 Oct 2015, 3:58 pm)DaveyBowyer Depends whether or not the QC's are likely to go ahead. If they do, then it will most likely be Streetdecks but if not, then I can see either the Cobalt Clipper getting Streetdecks with 10 moving to Stanley for the 6, X70, X71 alongside a new brand; and 7 moving to Crook for the X21 (Note that 6104 would be swapped with a Deptford B9 which hasn't been modified yet). In terms of spares, these could simply be made up of Omnidekkas. Or alternatively, the Red Arrows getting E400s with the power and chassis either from Cummins / ADL or Scania / ADL with 6001 to 6007 moving to Crook and the rest acting in various roles including providing a backup for the TTX without having to use the TEN allocation and allowing the B7TL Geminis  to move into less demanding roles.

GNE would see far more benefits in the efficiency of the Streetdeck on the Cobalt Clipper than what they would on the X21.

Explain that one?

DanPicken

Banned

2,177
12 Oct 2015, 4:04 pm #454
4952 is parked up in Riverside X66 maybe?
Edited 12 Oct 2015, 4:06 pm by DanPicken. Edit Reason: Found fleet no.
DanPicken
12 Oct 2015, 4:04 pm #454

4952 is parked up in Riverside X66 maybe?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
12 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm #455
(12 Oct 2015, 4:04 pm)DanPicken One of the Great Park Fusions is parked up in Riverside X66 maybe?

No, it won't be used on the X66.

Perhaps this is the one which I'm led to believe has been sold and is awaiting collection?
Dan
12 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm #455

(12 Oct 2015, 4:04 pm)DanPicken One of the Great Park Fusions is parked up in Riverside X66 maybe?

No, it won't be used on the X66.

Perhaps this is the one which I'm led to believe has been sold and is awaiting collection?

Michael



19,175
12 Oct 2015, 4:11 pm #456
(12 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm)Dan No, it won't be used on the X66.

Perhaps this is the one which I'm led to believe has been sold and is awaiting collection?

Any idea who's bought it?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Oct 2015, 4:11 pm #456

(12 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm)Dan No, it won't be used on the X66.

Perhaps this is the one which I'm led to believe has been sold and is awaiting collection?

Any idea who's bought it?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,123
12 Oct 2015, 4:16 pm #457
(12 Oct 2015, 4:11 pm)Michael Any idea who's bought it?

DanPicken's edit is correct: 4952 is the one which is at Riverside, and it was moved across from Saltmeadows at 14:00 today.

I believe DiagTest purchased one (which I thought was 4950), but possibly swapped for 4952?
Dan
12 Oct 2015, 4:16 pm #457

(12 Oct 2015, 4:11 pm)Michael Any idea who's bought it?

DanPicken's edit is correct: 4952 is the one which is at Riverside, and it was moved across from Saltmeadows at 14:00 today.

I believe DiagTest purchased one (which I thought was 4950), but possibly swapped for 4952?

Michael



19,175
12 Oct 2015, 4:18 pm #458
(12 Oct 2015, 4:16 pm)Dan DanPicken's edit is correct: 4952 is the one which is at Riverside, and it was moved across from Saltmeadows at 14:00 today.

I believe DiagTest purchased one (which I thought was 4950), but possibly swapped for 4952?

Cheers, wonder why they haven't bought the other 2?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Oct 2015, 4:18 pm #458

(12 Oct 2015, 4:16 pm)Dan DanPicken's edit is correct: 4952 is the one which is at Riverside, and it was moved across from Saltmeadows at 14:00 today.

I believe DiagTest purchased one (which I thought was 4950), but possibly swapped for 4952?

Cheers, wonder why they haven't bought the other 2?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,554
12 Oct 2015, 5:02 pm #459
(12 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm)citaro5284 Explain that one?

Volvo B9TL D9B260 260BHP:

- Torque = 1100nm @ 1200rpm (900-1500rpm)

Wright Streetdeck Daimler OM934 5.1 231BHP:

- Torque = 900nm @ 1400rpm

Therefore at higher speeds, unless the power delivery was regulated by the setup of the vehicle which means it would be very slow and struggle to keep to time, then the Streetdeck would have to work harder than the B9TL to achieve the required output. Bar the Coast Road between Station Road / Benfield Road, New York Road past the powergrid (if no muppets are doodling along at 30-40mph on an NSL road!), Blyth Road and the Links Road, the Cobalt Clipper doesn't achieve any such great speeds anywhere else bar a few X39 runs and therefore, an economic setup of a Streetdeck would be more than adequate for both the 309 / 310 but not for the X21 and even more so that the Streetdeck would have to work harder to achieve such speeds. Even though the Micro Hybrid technology would make up for the lack of efficiency at 50mph, the benefits would be seen more across an intensive start-stop route rather than an express route. Don't forget that the Streetdeck is limited to 50mph whereas the B9TL could achieve up to 62mph (the legal limit).
L469 YVK
12 Oct 2015, 5:02 pm #459

(12 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm)citaro5284 Explain that one?

Volvo B9TL D9B260 260BHP:

- Torque = 1100nm @ 1200rpm (900-1500rpm)

Wright Streetdeck Daimler OM934 5.1 231BHP:

- Torque = 900nm @ 1400rpm

Therefore at higher speeds, unless the power delivery was regulated by the setup of the vehicle which means it would be very slow and struggle to keep to time, then the Streetdeck would have to work harder than the B9TL to achieve the required output. Bar the Coast Road between Station Road / Benfield Road, New York Road past the powergrid (if no muppets are doodling along at 30-40mph on an NSL road!), Blyth Road and the Links Road, the Cobalt Clipper doesn't achieve any such great speeds anywhere else bar a few X39 runs and therefore, an economic setup of a Streetdeck would be more than adequate for both the 309 / 310 but not for the X21 and even more so that the Streetdeck would have to work harder to achieve such speeds. Even though the Micro Hybrid technology would make up for the lack of efficiency at 50mph, the benefits would be seen more across an intensive start-stop route rather than an express route. Don't forget that the Streetdeck is limited to 50mph whereas the B9TL could achieve up to 62mph (the legal limit).

mb134



4,152
12 Oct 2015, 5:02 pm #460
(12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm)GX03 SVC Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection times to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.

Not sure how accurate this is, but I've heard there was some issues with the journey on the Bedlington Station school run this morning (bus was late/didn't turn up, didn't fully understand what they were saying), do you know anything about this?
mb134
12 Oct 2015, 5:02 pm #460

(12 Oct 2015, 3:22 pm)GX03 SVC Passenger loadings are looking alright for the 434. I've had to provide home-printed timetables to the bus station, which have ran out immediately! Not a lot of passengers are impressed, with cross-Ashington links only being possible during the first two journeys, kids being made to pay £1.50 adult singles to get to school (used to be 55p return on Phoenix) and long waiting and connection times to 2nd half 434 journeys etc.

Not sure how accurate this is, but I've heard there was some issues with the journey on the Bedlington Station school run this morning (bus was late/didn't turn up, didn't fully understand what they were saying), do you know anything about this?

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