Cobalt clipper
I reckon that inter working at Haymaket could be stopped, as changeovers now take place at New York (309) and Verne Road (310), as canteen at North Shields is now closed.
310 could then be dropped from Coabalt Clipper, allowing 3 B9s to go to Riverside/Hexham for TEN, plus 2 red spares.
Ex Brighton deckers could go on 310, or even Toonlink omnicities.
(11 Aug 2016, 11:41 am)park5354 Cobalt clipper310 is often packed at times so would be a large customer dissatisfaction in my opinion by degrading features.
I reckon that inter working at Haymaket could be stopped, as changeovers now take place at New York (309) and Verne Road (310), as canteen at North Shields is now closed.
310 could then be dropped from Coabalt Clipper, allowing 3 B9s to go to Riverside/Hexham for TEN, plus 2 red spares.
Ex Brighton deckers could go on 310, or even Toonlink omnicities.
(11 Aug 2016, 11:41 am)park5354 Cobalt clipper310 is often packed at times so would be a large customer dissatisfaction in my opinion by degrading features.
I reckon that inter working at Haymaket could be stopped, as changeovers now take place at New York (309) and Verne Road (310), as canteen at North Shields is now closed.
310 could then be dropped from Coabalt Clipper, allowing 3 B9s to go to Riverside/Hexham for TEN, plus 2 red spares.
Ex Brighton deckers could go on 310, or even Toonlink omnicities.
(11 Aug 2016, 9:47 am)Michael Hopefully, i think they really suit the TEN, continuing about "red" buses etc on them due to lack of B9's, i think GNE will want to upgrade the TTX soon, as i doubt they'll want a repeat of what happened with the B7's, with the constant breakdowns, of course, that's if GNE decide to replace them in the next financial year (2017-2018), or even this years!, then the TTX B9's could go on the TEN and Cobalt Clippers along with a couple of spares.It might be another year of the double deckers like 2012 was
(11 Aug 2016, 9:47 am)Michael Hopefully, i think they really suit the TEN, continuing about "red" buses etc on them due to lack of B9's, i think GNE will want to upgrade the TTX soon, as i doubt they'll want a repeat of what happened with the B7's, with the constant breakdowns, of course, that's if GNE decide to replace them in the next financial year (2017-2018), or even this years!, then the TTX B9's could go on the TEN and Cobalt Clippers along with a couple of spares.It might be another year of the double deckers like 2012 was
Would DDA coaches potentially be a solution for TTX? Plaxton Elites perhaps? A bit on the costly side but if you make it truly express and change the current service so B9s serve smaller places I reckon that could work.
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(11 Aug 2016, 12:10 am)G-CPTN I am naturally very protective of the TEN, and believe that the B9TLs are ideal for the westerly section of the route - there are gradients (such as Tinklers Bank at Corbridge) which the B9s cope with admirably - I'm not sure that a 5 litre engine would be adequate.Don't want to start predictions on here but pretty sure that the TEN won't get a replacement even if the need for cascaded B9TLs is imminent with currently there only being 1 set of routes in mind given the recent service changes as well as further potential cascades (including extra modern deckers at Chester Le Street to assist with the Angel).
It is mildly 'disappointing' when non-liveried vehicles (by which I mean red B7TLs) have to be used (the TEN livery is so good IMO), though any bus is preferable to no bus. What is strange is that 3942 used to be in TEN livery before it was repainted red.
Hexham do a superb job of using whatever spares they have to keep the service(s) 'on schedule' - I spotted a TEN B9TL running the X84 heading east through Corbridge on Tuesday @ 17.30ish (a few minutes late - but running nevertheless) and I've seen B9TLs on the occasional X84/X85 during 'daytime'.
In return we get the occasional single decker running the TEN (it comes as a surprise when they turn into central Corbridge instead of continuing along Main Street and Newcastle Road).
What I'm trying to say is don't mess with the current allocation (except where necessary to fill gaps) as the current vehicles seem to be ideally suited to the routes.
I dread to think what will happen when the B9TLs wear out - though maybe that will be a long time yet?
(11 Aug 2016, 12:10 am)G-CPTN I am naturally very protective of the TEN, and believe that the B9TLs are ideal for the westerly section of the route - there are gradients (such as Tinklers Bank at Corbridge) which the B9s cope with admirably - I'm not sure that a 5 litre engine would be adequate.Don't want to start predictions on here but pretty sure that the TEN won't get a replacement even if the need for cascaded B9TLs is imminent with currently there only being 1 set of routes in mind given the recent service changes as well as further potential cascades (including extra modern deckers at Chester Le Street to assist with the Angel).
It is mildly 'disappointing' when non-liveried vehicles (by which I mean red B7TLs) have to be used (the TEN livery is so good IMO), though any bus is preferable to no bus. What is strange is that 3942 used to be in TEN livery before it was repainted red.
Hexham do a superb job of using whatever spares they have to keep the service(s) 'on schedule' - I spotted a TEN B9TL running the X84 heading east through Corbridge on Tuesday @ 17.30ish (a few minutes late - but running nevertheless) and I've seen B9TLs on the occasional X84/X85 during 'daytime'.
In return we get the occasional single decker running the TEN (it comes as a surprise when they turn into central Corbridge instead of continuing along Main Street and Newcastle Road).
What I'm trying to say is don't mess with the current allocation (except where necessary to fill gaps) as the current vehicles seem to be ideally suited to the routes.
I dread to think what will happen when the B9TLs wear out - though maybe that will be a long time yet?
(11 Aug 2016, 12:10 am)G-CPTN I am naturally very protective of the TEN, and believe that the B9TLs are ideal for the westerly section of the route - there are gradients (such as Tinklers Bank at Corbridge) which the B9s cope with admirably - I'm not sure that a 5 litre engine would be adequate.
It is mildly 'disappointing' when non-liveried vehicles (by which I mean red B7TLs) have to be used (the TEN livery is so good IMO)
(11 Aug 2016, 12:10 am)G-CPTN I am naturally very protective of the TEN, and believe that the B9TLs are ideal for the westerly section of the route - there are gradients (such as Tinklers Bank at Corbridge) which the B9s cope with admirably - I'm not sure that a 5 litre engine would be adequate.
It is mildly 'disappointing' when non-liveried vehicles (by which I mean red B7TLs) have to be used (the TEN livery is so good IMO)
(11 Aug 2016, 4:29 pm)TEN 6083
Especially if traveling west of Prudhoe and a B7 shows up as I have to use wifi when going to Hexham as the signal on O2 is not good there except for only outside or in Tesco oddly which can get 3G at. 10B I'm not so bothered about what it is as it's always a good signal.
(11 Aug 2016, 4:29 pm)TEN 6083
Especially if traveling west of Prudhoe and a B7 shows up as I have to use wifi when going to Hexham as the signal on O2 is not good there except for only outside or in Tesco oddly which can get 3G at. 10B I'm not so bothered about what it is as it's always a good signal.
Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
I'd be as miserable as sin driving a President mind....
(12 Aug 2016, 2:44 pm)Ambassador I'd be as miserable as sin driving a President mind....
(12 Aug 2016, 2:44 pm)Ambassador I'd be as miserable as sin driving a President mind....
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
Speaking of Chester Le Streets finest.
Angel 6066 has expired outside the Cannon in Low Fell
(12 Aug 2016, 5:48 pm)Ambassador Speaking of Chester Le Streets finest.
Angel 6066 has expired outside the Cannon in Low Fell
(12 Aug 2016, 5:48 pm)Ambassador Speaking of Chester Le Streets finest.
Angel 6066 has expired outside the Cannon in Low Fell
(12 Aug 2016, 3:42 pm)citaro5284 You should put a complaint in. There is no excuse for not accepting these tickets when the drivers are operating in Tyne and Wear day in and day out.
http://www.simplygo.com/contact-us/
(12 Aug 2016, 1:27 pm)R852 PRG To be completely honest, it'll have likely have been confusion more than anything. Drivers generally expect to see a bus ticket rather than a Metro ticket if you're showing a previously bought ticket to travel. I've had it before on Northern Rail between Newcastle and Sunderland, where the guard has been a bit funny about it because it was an Explorer purchased on an Arriva bus.
As I'm acquainted with a good number of staff at Chester-le-Street, I can assure you the miserable drivers are few and far between. Vast majority of them are very nice people. Regarding the third line; the amount of passengers that drivers carry on a daily basis, I wouldn't worry about him refusing you travel in the future, as most drivers see more faces in a day than they can remember.
(12 Aug 2016, 3:42 pm)citaro5284 You should put a complaint in. There is no excuse for not accepting these tickets when the drivers are operating in Tyne and Wear day in and day out.
http://www.simplygo.com/contact-us/
(12 Aug 2016, 1:27 pm)R852 PRG To be completely honest, it'll have likely have been confusion more than anything. Drivers generally expect to see a bus ticket rather than a Metro ticket if you're showing a previously bought ticket to travel. I've had it before on Northern Rail between Newcastle and Sunderland, where the guard has been a bit funny about it because it was an Explorer purchased on an Arriva bus.
As I'm acquainted with a good number of staff at Chester-le-Street, I can assure you the miserable drivers are few and far between. Vast majority of them are very nice people. Regarding the third line; the amount of passengers that drivers carry on a daily basis, I wouldn't worry about him refusing you travel in the future, as most drivers see more faces in a day than they can remember.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:45 am)South Tyne Lad Had a miserable Chester-Le-Street soul driving a President on the 21 2 days ago refusing to let me on his 21 due to it being " A Metro Ticket " Even though It was a CAT Ticket which can be bought from either the Metro or Bus and is valid on both aswell as the Ferry and Rail.
His second excuse was that it had " A, B and C on the ticket " Which is printed on all CAT Tickets issued on the Metro, Common Sense is that A,B and C is all Zones on a Metro ticket...
He said he'd let me on just this once but if he seen me again he wouldn't let me on.
Are Drivers seriously this undertrained on Tickets? The CAT is used by nearly every child in Tyne and Wear.
(12 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm)BusLoverMum We're had similar problems with explorers with drivers on all the big 3 in the area.
I'm a stubborn git and always get on, though (after a quick lesson in ticketing options)
(12 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm)BusLoverMum We're had similar problems with explorers with drivers on all the big 3 in the area.
I'm a stubborn git and always get on, though (after a quick lesson in ticketing options)
(12 Aug 2016, 6:56 pm)citaro5284 Aye, prove the buggers wrong, some drivers think they know it all when in fact they know.........I've had a few incidences with GNE tickets mind!
(12 Aug 2016, 6:56 pm)citaro5284 Aye, prove the buggers wrong, some drivers think they know it all when in fact they know.........I've had a few incidences with GNE tickets mind!