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MrFozz

Marxista Fozzski

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10 Mar 2015, 6:39 pm #641
(10 Mar 2015, 6:24 pm)Tommy_1581 Use the Metro from NCL to MAS. Manors Metro is just a two minute walk from the station.
Surely MMT-MAS is the best way for the Metro, go from NCLand you go through MMT and go round the Coast to reach MAS...
MrFozz
10 Mar 2015, 6:39 pm #641

(10 Mar 2015, 6:24 pm)Tommy_1581 Use the Metro from NCL to MAS. Manors Metro is just a two minute walk from the station.
Surely MMT-MAS is the best way for the Metro, go from NCLand you go through MMT and go round the Coast to reach MAS...

LeeCalder



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10 Mar 2015, 8:06 pm #642
(10 Mar 2015, 5:02 pm)Tom I can assure you they are valid from Sunderland-Blaydon.
Why would they change it?

According to my Uncle who is a guard for Northern they are no longer valid. I also asked Nexus who said the same 
LeeCalder
10 Mar 2015, 8:06 pm #642

(10 Mar 2015, 5:02 pm)Tom I can assure you they are valid from Sunderland-Blaydon.
Why would they change it?

According to my Uncle who is a guard for Northern they are no longer valid. I also asked Nexus who said the same 

LeeCalder



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10 Mar 2015, 8:07 pm #643
(10 Mar 2015, 5:09 pm)Robert So that must have been what Lee had as opposed to a £1.10 CAT as he said.

I think I know what ticket I had. I had a Nexus Cat 
LeeCalder
10 Mar 2015, 8:07 pm #643

(10 Mar 2015, 5:09 pm)Robert So that must have been what Lee had as opposed to a £1.10 CAT as he said.

I think I know what ticket I had. I had a Nexus Cat 

Tom



6,138
10 Mar 2015, 8:08 pm #644
(10 Mar 2015, 8:06 pm)leestransportphotos According to my Uncle who is a guard for Northern they are no longer valid. I also asked Nexus who said the same 

Funny that, because Adrian rang Nexus who confirmed they were valid Blaydon-Sunderland.
Tom
10 Mar 2015, 8:08 pm #644

(10 Mar 2015, 8:06 pm)leestransportphotos According to my Uncle who is a guard for Northern they are no longer valid. I also asked Nexus who said the same 

Funny that, because Adrian rang Nexus who confirmed they were valid Blaydon-Sunderland.

LeeCalder



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10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm #645
Funny that I rang Nexus and they also said that a £1.10 day ticket is not valid (Nexus Cat)
LeeCalder
10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm #645

Funny that I rang Nexus and they also said that a £1.10 day ticket is not valid (Nexus Cat)

Adrian



9,590
10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm #646
I think we'll end this discussion there, and move it to the pricing thread.  

 The information (with valid sources) has been provided, and I'm sure members are more than capable of using it themselves.

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Adrian
10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm #646

I think we'll end this discussion there, and move it to the pricing thread.  

 The information (with valid sources) has been provided, and I'm sure members are more than capable of using it themselves.


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Tom



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10 Mar 2015, 8:12 pm #647
(10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm)leestransportphotos Funny that I rang Nexus and they also said that a £1.10 day ticket is not valid (Nexus Cat)

Well why would Nexus tell two different people different things?  Huh
Tom
10 Mar 2015, 8:12 pm #647

(10 Mar 2015, 8:10 pm)leestransportphotos Funny that I rang Nexus and they also said that a £1.10 day ticket is not valid (Nexus Cat)

Well why would Nexus tell two different people different things?  Huh

LeeCalder



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10 Mar 2015, 8:20 pm #648
How am I supposed to know? She sounded like a bit of a thick t**t to be fair
LeeCalder
10 Mar 2015, 8:20 pm #648

How am I supposed to know? She sounded like a bit of a thick t**t to be fair

cbma06



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11 Mar 2015, 11:45 am #649
I was on the X21/21 service at Peterlee yesterday, a passenger got on and paid £6 for a single from Peterlee to Darlington.


cbma06
11 Mar 2015, 11:45 am #649

I was on the X21/21 service at Peterlee yesterday, a passenger got on and paid £6 for a single from Peterlee to Darlington.



Andreos1



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23 Mar 2015, 2:03 pm #650
As the UK is facing a spell of deflation (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015...-deflation) and operators are paying less for their fuel than previously (http://www.go-ahead.com/ir/busfuelpolicy.aspx), I wonder if we are we likely to see a drop in ticket prices soon?

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Andreos1
23 Mar 2015, 2:03 pm #650

As the UK is facing a spell of deflation (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015...-deflation) and operators are paying less for their fuel than previously (http://www.go-ahead.com/ir/busfuelpolicy.aspx), I wonder if we are we likely to see a drop in ticket prices soon?


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Adrian



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23 Mar 2015, 3:42 pm #651
I doubt we'll see a drop in anything. The only change will be the increased profit margins.

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Adrian
23 Mar 2015, 3:42 pm #651

I doubt we'll see a drop in anything. The only change will be the increased profit margins.


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Andreos1



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23 Mar 2015, 5:41 pm #652
(23 Mar 2015, 3:42 pm)aureolin I doubt we'll see a drop in anything. The only change will be the increased profit margins.

Here's me thinking I was the cynical one? Wink

Imagine the PR they could get out of it? Lower fuel prices and lower insurance premiums, coupled together to mean lower fares?
With the additional custom the lower fares could generate, the profits could increase even more!
They could even use it in their war against QCS.

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Andreos1
23 Mar 2015, 5:41 pm #652

(23 Mar 2015, 3:42 pm)aureolin I doubt we'll see a drop in anything. The only change will be the increased profit margins.

Here's me thinking I was the cynical one? Wink

Imagine the PR they could get out of it? Lower fuel prices and lower insurance premiums, coupled together to mean lower fares?
With the additional custom the lower fares could generate, the profits could increase even more!
They could even use it in their war against QCS.


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Chris



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24 Mar 2015, 12:22 pm #653
(23 Mar 2015, 2:03 pm)Andreos1 As the UK is facing a spell of deflation (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015...-deflation) and operators are paying less for their fuel than previously (http://www.go-ahead.com/ir/busfuelpolicy.aspx), I wonder if we are we likely to see a drop in ticket prices soon?

If the big 3 hedge their fuel, surely a drop in fuel prices today won't have any effect?  The price they're paying today would have been 'hedged' 12 months ago when prices were higher.

Whilst fuel won't be an insignificant cost, I would have thought staff costs would make up a larger part of operators cost base.
Chris
24 Mar 2015, 12:22 pm #653

(23 Mar 2015, 2:03 pm)Andreos1 As the UK is facing a spell of deflation (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015...-deflation) and operators are paying less for their fuel than previously (http://www.go-ahead.com/ir/busfuelpolicy.aspx), I wonder if we are we likely to see a drop in ticket prices soon?

If the big 3 hedge their fuel, surely a drop in fuel prices today won't have any effect?  The price they're paying today would have been 'hedged' 12 months ago when prices were higher.

Whilst fuel won't be an insignificant cost, I would have thought staff costs would make up a larger part of operators cost base.

Andreos1



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24 Mar 2015, 2:59 pm #654
(24 Mar 2015, 12:22 pm)Chris If the big 3 hedge their fuel, surely a drop in fuel prices today won't have any effect?  The price they're paying today would have been 'hedged' 12 months ago when prices were higher.

Whilst fuel won't be an insignificant cost, I would have thought staff costs would make up a larger part of operators cost base.

All of their fuel for the next couple of years is purchased.
The link shows how that price has dropped by quite a few pence per litre over the last year or two and into the future.

They normally don't buy as much fuel in advance, as they have done (according to the info on the site), but have taken advantage of the lower prices and exchange rates, to buy ahead of schedule - getting it cheaper than in recent years.
4 or 5p per litre cheaper for our cars, makes a heck of a difference. Imagine paying 6p per litre less, for a fleet of buses? Massive savings - regardless of wages.

I have to say, my initial post was tongue in cheek.
Despite a lot of other everyday items falling (including food delivered by hauliers - who also hedge their fuel) and a possible period of deflation, I am not holding my breath that bus operators will drop theirs.
Edited 24 Mar 2015, 3:17 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
24 Mar 2015, 2:59 pm #654

(24 Mar 2015, 12:22 pm)Chris If the big 3 hedge their fuel, surely a drop in fuel prices today won't have any effect?  The price they're paying today would have been 'hedged' 12 months ago when prices were higher.

Whilst fuel won't be an insignificant cost, I would have thought staff costs would make up a larger part of operators cost base.

All of their fuel for the next couple of years is purchased.
The link shows how that price has dropped by quite a few pence per litre over the last year or two and into the future.

They normally don't buy as much fuel in advance, as they have done (according to the info on the site), but have taken advantage of the lower prices and exchange rates, to buy ahead of schedule - getting it cheaper than in recent years.
4 or 5p per litre cheaper for our cars, makes a heck of a difference. Imagine paying 6p per litre less, for a fleet of buses? Massive savings - regardless of wages.

I have to say, my initial post was tongue in cheek.
Despite a lot of other everyday items falling (including food delivered by hauliers - who also hedge their fuel) and a possible period of deflation, I am not holding my breath that bus operators will drop theirs.


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tyresmoke



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24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm #655
Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50

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tyresmoke
24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm #655

Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50


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Malarkey



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24 Mar 2015, 8:26 pm #656
(24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm)tyresmoke Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50
Guess Nexus need a few pennies to keep there Diabolical Metro System running, and Ripping Passengers off in the process, £7 for a Day Rover is absolutely disgusting.
Malarkey
24 Mar 2015, 8:26 pm #656

(24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm)tyresmoke Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50
Guess Nexus need a few pennies to keep there Diabolical Metro System running, and Ripping Passengers off in the process, £7 for a Day Rover is absolutely disgusting.

Adrian



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24 Mar 2015, 9:06 pm #657
(24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm)tyresmoke Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50

(24 Mar 2015, 8:26 pm)Malarkey Guess Nexus need a few pennies to keep there Diabolical Metro System running, and Ripping Passengers off in the process, £7 for a Day Rover is absolutely disgusting.

I don't mean to sound facetious, but it's a Network One Day Rover, rather than a Nexus Day Rover, isn't it?

Fares, to my understanding, are set by the Network One scheme administers. I can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something like shares are allocated in the 'Network Ticketing Limited' company, based on your 'share' of the revenue from the sales. It currently works out something like 60% buses/40% PTE, with Go Ahead having the majority of that 60% buses. 

Does that same statement apply now that it's not Nexus? Smile

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Adrian
24 Mar 2015, 9:06 pm #657

(24 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm)tyresmoke Guess this is as good a thread as any.

Some fare changes from 5th April I've become aware of...
Nexus Day Rover prices going upto £7.00 and Junior £3.90
Explorer also goes upto £9.70 and family one upto £19.50. Child stays at £8.50

(24 Mar 2015, 8:26 pm)Malarkey Guess Nexus need a few pennies to keep there Diabolical Metro System running, and Ripping Passengers off in the process, £7 for a Day Rover is absolutely disgusting.

I don't mean to sound facetious, but it's a Network One Day Rover, rather than a Nexus Day Rover, isn't it?

Fares, to my understanding, are set by the Network One scheme administers. I can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something like shares are allocated in the 'Network Ticketing Limited' company, based on your 'share' of the revenue from the sales. It currently works out something like 60% buses/40% PTE, with Go Ahead having the majority of that 60% buses. 

Does that same statement apply now that it's not Nexus? Smile


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Malarkey



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24 Mar 2015, 9:24 pm #658
(24 Mar 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin I don't mean to sound facetious, but it's a Network One Day Rover, rather than a Nexus Day Rover, isn't it?

Fares, to my understanding, are set by the Network One scheme administers. I can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something like shares are allocated in the 'Network Ticketing Limited' company, based on your 'share' of the revenue from the sales. It currently works out something like 60% buses/40% PTE, with Go Ahead having the majority of that 60% buses. 

Does that same statement apply now that it's not Nexus? Smile
Yeah it is Network One(My Bad) and yes that Statement does still apply now that it is not Nexus Smile .
Malarkey
24 Mar 2015, 9:24 pm #658

(24 Mar 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin I don't mean to sound facetious, but it's a Network One Day Rover, rather than a Nexus Day Rover, isn't it?

Fares, to my understanding, are set by the Network One scheme administers. I can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something like shares are allocated in the 'Network Ticketing Limited' company, based on your 'share' of the revenue from the sales. It currently works out something like 60% buses/40% PTE, with Go Ahead having the majority of that 60% buses. 

Does that same statement apply now that it's not Nexus? Smile
Yeah it is Network One(My Bad) and yes that Statement does still apply now that it is not Nexus Smile .

Andreos1



14,242
25 Mar 2015, 10:17 am #659
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=627
Network Ticketing thread, inc a link to shareholders.

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Andreos1
25 Mar 2015, 10:17 am #659

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=627
Network Ticketing thread, inc a link to shareholders.


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Tom



6,138
02 May 2015, 11:14 am #660
Buzzfare prices are increasing.
I'll take a photo of the details when I'm next on the bus.
Tom
02 May 2015, 11:14 am #660

Buzzfare prices are increasing.
I'll take a photo of the details when I'm next on the bus.

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