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Dan

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28 Dec 2012, 5:55 pm #1
Just a general topic about cameras really...

After a horrid three-day experience with my Nikon Coolpix L810, I took it back to the shop and after much debate between the manager and I, I got a full refund. Was really disappointed with it though.

From tomorrow, I shall be using a Panasonic TX-30 - which I know should be pretty good. Well, that's assuming it lives up to the same standard as its predecessor, the Panasonic TX-20.
Flickr famous Stuart Montgomery (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart_montgomery/) uses a Panasonic TX-20 and some of his night shots are great - they're not static either! See below for an example:
[Image: 8247008095_e4d1e022a2_z.jpg]

I previously used a Sony DSC-W180 and it treated me well through my education and for general photography purposes up until December 24th of this year, when it faced its retirement. I must say that it's a brilliant camera though, and for its price, the quality of some of the images it has produced for me is phenomenal.

What kind of camera do you use?
Have you had any troubles with cameras in the past?
Dan
28 Dec 2012, 5:55 pm #1

Just a general topic about cameras really...

After a horrid three-day experience with my Nikon Coolpix L810, I took it back to the shop and after much debate between the manager and I, I got a full refund. Was really disappointed with it though.

From tomorrow, I shall be using a Panasonic TX-30 - which I know should be pretty good. Well, that's assuming it lives up to the same standard as its predecessor, the Panasonic TX-20.
Flickr famous Stuart Montgomery (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart_montgomery/) uses a Panasonic TX-20 and some of his night shots are great - they're not static either! See below for an example:
[Image: 8247008095_e4d1e022a2_z.jpg]

I previously used a Sony DSC-W180 and it treated me well through my education and for general photography purposes up until December 24th of this year, when it faced its retirement. I must say that it's a brilliant camera though, and for its price, the quality of some of the images it has produced for me is phenomenal.

What kind of camera do you use?
Have you had any troubles with cameras in the past?

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28 Dec 2012, 6:35 pm #2
Shame you had to take your camera back, I assume it was a Christmas present too Sad

I always thought your photos were great anyway. Every bus photo I've ever taken has been with my camera phone. It's a LG KU990 Viewty.

[Image: lg-ku990-viewty-tpuchscreen-phone.jpg]

http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/09/10/lg...-about-it/

I think I got it Christmas 2009. It was quite a dated phone even back then. I don't use this phone as my main phone anymore, the screen is scratched to bits, but I still carry it about anyway just in case!

I've been really fond of the camera, some photos I've been really pleased with like these -

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[attachment=1267]

[attachment=1268]

Night-time photos don't work well on it unfortunately.

In 2010 I got an Olympus FE47 / X43.

[Image: tn_95_0000C4BA_0320.jpg]

While indoor photos are excellent on it, I haven't been too impressed at all with outdoor photos, which have tended to appear grainy. Maybe I just need more messing about it with it to find the best settings.
NEB Admin Team
28 Dec 2012, 6:35 pm #2

Shame you had to take your camera back, I assume it was a Christmas present too Sad

I always thought your photos were great anyway. Every bus photo I've ever taken has been with my camera phone. It's a LG KU990 Viewty.

[Image: lg-ku990-viewty-tpuchscreen-phone.jpg]

http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/09/10/lg...-about-it/

I think I got it Christmas 2009. It was quite a dated phone even back then. I don't use this phone as my main phone anymore, the screen is scratched to bits, but I still carry it about anyway just in case!

I've been really fond of the camera, some photos I've been really pleased with like these -

[attachment=1266]

[attachment=1267]

[attachment=1268]

Night-time photos don't work well on it unfortunately.

In 2010 I got an Olympus FE47 / X43.

[Image: tn_95_0000C4BA_0320.jpg]

While indoor photos are excellent on it, I haven't been too impressed at all with outdoor photos, which have tended to appear grainy. Maybe I just need more messing about it with it to find the best settings.

Dan

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28 Dec 2012, 6:41 pm #3
It was indeed! I told my mam on Christmas Day when I went out to test it... The static photos I took in Go North East's Deptford depot were brilliant, I was really impressed. The dynamic photos I took of moving cars weren't great though.
I had a bus day with it on Boxing Day and I wasn't greatly impressed.
Today I decided to go out again to try it - it was just unbearable. I'd upload them to my Flickr but my very early work (August 2012) is better than the ones I took today; as everyone should know, they aren't even to a mediocre standard - they're appalling. :L

She was glad I was straight-up with her about it though. She said she knew for its primary purpose, it may not have been ideal, so she was happy to try and get a refund and replace it with a more suitable one. (Phew)!
Dan
28 Dec 2012, 6:41 pm #3

It was indeed! I told my mam on Christmas Day when I went out to test it... The static photos I took in Go North East's Deptford depot were brilliant, I was really impressed. The dynamic photos I took of moving cars weren't great though.
I had a bus day with it on Boxing Day and I wasn't greatly impressed.
Today I decided to go out again to try it - it was just unbearable. I'd upload them to my Flickr but my very early work (August 2012) is better than the ones I took today; as everyone should know, they aren't even to a mediocre standard - they're appalling. :L

She was glad I was straight-up with her about it though. She said she knew for its primary purpose, it may not have been ideal, so she was happy to try and get a refund and replace it with a more suitable one. (Phew)!

Tom



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28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm #4
I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?
Tom
28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm #4

I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Dan

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28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm #5
(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad
Dan
28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm #5

(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad

Tom



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28 Dec 2012, 10:04 pm #6
(28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm)Daniel
(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad

Where did you get it from and how much?
Tom
28 Dec 2012, 10:04 pm #6

(28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm)Daniel
(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad

Where did you get it from and how much?

Dan

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29 Dec 2012, 8:15 am #7
(28 Dec 2012, 10:04 pm)W179SCU
(28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm)Daniel
(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad

Where did you get it from and how much?

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/prod.../show.html
Dan
29 Dec 2012, 8:15 am #7

(28 Dec 2012, 10:04 pm)W179SCU
(28 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm)Daniel
(28 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm)W179SCU I am getting really annoyed with my current camera. EVERY SINGLE PHOTO I TAKE IS BLURRY Angry - Any recommendations?

Take a look at some of the Panasonic videos for the TX range.
The zoom on the TX-30 is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fJ99q_YIY18&feature=fvwp

They're quite pricey though Sad

Where did you get it from and how much?

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/prod.../show.html

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29 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm #8
Just seen your Flickr from today Daniel, your photos look brilliant! Big Grin

It's brought the colours out really well and the photos are really sharp. Was the camera good to get to grips with?
NEB Admin Team
29 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm #8

Just seen your Flickr from today Daniel, your photos look brilliant! Big Grin

It's brought the colours out really well and the photos are really sharp. Was the camera good to get to grips with?

Dan

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29 Dec 2012, 5:21 pm #9
(29 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm)Brandon Just seen your Flickr from today Daniel, your photos look brilliant! Big Grin

It's brought the colours out really well and the photos are really sharp. Was the camera good to get to grips with?

I tried for about an hour to get the settings right working it manually... I don't know whether it was because of the very harsh lighting quality today or not, but it just didn't want to work manually!
Automatically, they came out great though; those photos that didn't come out to a decent standard, I take responsibility for (not having enough time to set up for the shot). I've looked at the ISO setting for each photo and it's different on almost every one, so I'm guessing it was the lighting quality and it just didn't want to stick with ISO 400 which I was generously using.

The GPS wasn't working at first, but as soon as I got into town, it started working... No idea why it wouldn't work closer to home at Chester Road though!

Even at the automatic setting of ISO 800 which the camera set itself, the colours have come out so sharply and you can't notice a great change in quality:
[Image: 8322526452_48e7b9ff37.jpg]

I used Panasonic's "Happy" colour setting on some of the photos too, which helped out a great deal with the colour a little too, I think.
Dan
29 Dec 2012, 5:21 pm #9

(29 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm)Brandon Just seen your Flickr from today Daniel, your photos look brilliant! Big Grin

It's brought the colours out really well and the photos are really sharp. Was the camera good to get to grips with?

I tried for about an hour to get the settings right working it manually... I don't know whether it was because of the very harsh lighting quality today or not, but it just didn't want to work manually!
Automatically, they came out great though; those photos that didn't come out to a decent standard, I take responsibility for (not having enough time to set up for the shot). I've looked at the ISO setting for each photo and it's different on almost every one, so I'm guessing it was the lighting quality and it just didn't want to stick with ISO 400 which I was generously using.

The GPS wasn't working at first, but as soon as I got into town, it started working... No idea why it wouldn't work closer to home at Chester Road though!

Even at the automatic setting of ISO 800 which the camera set itself, the colours have come out so sharply and you can't notice a great change in quality:
[Image: 8322526452_48e7b9ff37.jpg]

I used Panasonic's "Happy" colour setting on some of the photos too, which helped out a great deal with the colour a little too, I think.

Tom



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29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm #10
My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...
Tom
29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm #10

My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Dan

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29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm #11
(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html
Dan
29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm #11

(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html

Tom



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29 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm #12
(29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html

Do you think that model would be good? Will it be as good as the TX30?
Tom
29 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm #12

(29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html

Do you think that model would be good? Will it be as good as the TX30?

Dan

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29 Dec 2012, 6:06 pm #13
(29 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm)W179SCU
(29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html

Do you think that model would be good? Will it be as good as the TX30?

There are some comparison videos of the TX20 and the TX30 on YouTube. You can assume that the TX25 will be a little bit better than the TX20, but not quite as good as the TX30.
For a difference of £60 or so, it's not really worth it to get the TX30. If I had known about the TX25, I wouldn't have had my mam go through with getting me the TX30.
Dan
29 Dec 2012, 6:06 pm #13

(29 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm)W179SCU
(29 Dec 2012, 5:53 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 5:45 pm)W179SCU My photos have been horrid today. Came out all blurred, and crap. I might get one of those cameras you have...

Oh dear - that's really not good! Well, I can highly recommend the TX30, but if you wanted to spend a little less for its specifications to be ever so slightly less too, the TX20 is great too. As I said in my OP, Stuart Monty uses the TX20 and that has produced some immensely brilliant quality photos.
The TZ25 is currently on offer at Jessops too, with an additional £30 cashback from Panasonic. If you could convince someone in your family to buy it before 31/12/12, you'd end up paying £134.99 overall, as opposed to £234.95 when those offers end.
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/cate.../show.html

Do you think that model would be good? Will it be as good as the TX30?

There are some comparison videos of the TX20 and the TX30 on YouTube. You can assume that the TX25 will be a little bit better than the TX20, but not quite as good as the TX30.
For a difference of £60 or so, it's not really worth it to get the TX30. If I had known about the TX25, I wouldn't have had my mam go through with getting me the TX30.

Tom



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29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm #14
I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?
Tom
29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm #14

I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?

Dan

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29 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm #15
(29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm)W179SCU I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?

To my knowledge, yeah. Wink
Dan
29 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm #15

(29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm)W179SCU I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?

To my knowledge, yeah. Wink

Tom



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29 Dec 2012, 6:17 pm #16
(29 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm)W179SCU I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?

To my knowledge, yeah. Wink

I will see what my parents say Wink - Cheers for the advice.
Tom
29 Dec 2012, 6:17 pm #16

(29 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm)Daniel
(29 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm)W179SCU I think I may get that then, I hope it is good! - Does that have the same settings etc?

To my knowledge, yeah. Wink

I will see what my parents say Wink - Cheers for the advice.

Adrian



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20 Mar 2013, 6:34 pm #17
I've recently bought myself a Nikon Coolpix P510. Ended up getting a good deal at Amazon for it, and it's a really nice point and shoot camera. It doesn't do raw format, but I've also got a Nikon D5100 DSLR for that.

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20 Mar 2013, 6:34 pm #17

I've recently bought myself a Nikon Coolpix P510. Ended up getting a good deal at Amazon for it, and it's a really nice point and shoot camera. It doesn't do raw format, but I've also got a Nikon D5100 DSLR for that.


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Dan

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20 Mar 2013, 9:15 pm #18
(20 Mar 2013, 6:34 pm)aureolin I've recently bought myself a Nikon Coolpix P510. Ended up getting a good deal at Amazon for it, and it's a really nice point and shoot camera. It doesn't do raw format, but I've also got a Nikon D5100 DSLR for that.

Glad to hear that you've had luck with your Coolpix.
Looking back at the EXIF data on my photos taken with the Coolpix L810, they were all as ISO 80. I'm assuming that I had it on manual mode and just didn't realise. Thinking that it was on automatic, I expected it to do the work for me before learning how to use manual efficiently on the camera.

I may have given the camera a bad press for no good reason, but I'm not entirely sure at the end of the day. Can't complain about my Panasonic TZ30 at the end of the day Wink
Dan
20 Mar 2013, 9:15 pm #18

(20 Mar 2013, 6:34 pm)aureolin I've recently bought myself a Nikon Coolpix P510. Ended up getting a good deal at Amazon for it, and it's a really nice point and shoot camera. It doesn't do raw format, but I've also got a Nikon D5100 DSLR for that.

Glad to hear that you've had luck with your Coolpix.
Looking back at the EXIF data on my photos taken with the Coolpix L810, they were all as ISO 80. I'm assuming that I had it on manual mode and just didn't realise. Thinking that it was on automatic, I expected it to do the work for me before learning how to use manual efficiently on the camera.

I may have given the camera a bad press for no good reason, but I'm not entirely sure at the end of the day. Can't complain about my Panasonic TZ30 at the end of the day Wink

Adrian



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06 Jun 2013, 7:47 pm #19
Thought I'd post this for the benefit of anyone looking for a new camera. Panasonic Lumix LZ20 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008MVLI2I/ref=nosim.

It's a cracking camera for that price (currently £79.95), and certainly gets some good reviews if have a look around. Cheapest I could find it at present too.

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Adrian
06 Jun 2013, 7:47 pm #19

Thought I'd post this for the benefit of anyone looking for a new camera. Panasonic Lumix LZ20 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008MVLI2I/ref=nosim.

It's a cracking camera for that price (currently £79.95), and certainly gets some good reviews if have a look around. Cheapest I could find it at present too.


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06 Jun 2013, 9:16 pm #20
I have a Vivitar Vivicam T027 12MP which I got on the 29/12/12, a day before my Birthday for £30 out of Asda.

It is a good little Camera in my opinion depending on Lighting Conditions and the Direction of which you are facing and position of the Sun etc.

It's dreadful Indoors and at Night, Also the Zoom isn't great either as the further you zoom in the fuzzier the photo gets, Also Night Shots are particularly great either. But otherwise it serves the purpose.

Perhaps once I have a Job etc I might invest in a better Camera at a later date.
Malarkey
06 Jun 2013, 9:16 pm #20

I have a Vivitar Vivicam T027 12MP which I got on the 29/12/12, a day before my Birthday for £30 out of Asda.

It is a good little Camera in my opinion depending on Lighting Conditions and the Direction of which you are facing and position of the Sun etc.

It's dreadful Indoors and at Night, Also the Zoom isn't great either as the further you zoom in the fuzzier the photo gets, Also Night Shots are particularly great either. But otherwise it serves the purpose.

Perhaps once I have a Job etc I might invest in a better Camera at a later date.

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