North East Buses

(03 Feb 2014, 7:34 pm)aureolin wrote [ -> ]Convenient appointment mind.

I'm not sure what time I'm heading up, but most likely mid-day. I'd have to get a day rover in any case to use GNE and Stagecoach, so I'll probably have an early morning trip through Newcastle first.

See who I can con into swapping my shifts next week as I'm off Sun/Tue at present.

You'll all have to excuse my school uniform mind.....

(04 Feb 2014, 3:08 am)ADLEnviro wrote [ -> ]Its not really a full on open day though, and as your wanted to fall in love with them the date is appropriate.

On the flip side of the coin - besides the unemployed or people who have been able to organise a day off from work/education, how many people are going to be there to 'fall in love' with the new gas bus vehicles?

Surely kids are the ones who would appreciate the new buses the most.

(02 Feb 2014, 4:10 pm)BJ10VUS wrote [ -> ]The part of Teesside that Stagecoach in Manchester operate, by the look of it!

It might end up here, in another 10 years or so.

(04 Feb 2014, 7:16 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]On the flip side of the coin - besides the unemployed or people who have been able to organise a day off from work/education, how many people are going to be there to 'fall in love' with the new gas bus vehicles?

Surely kids are the ones who would appreciate the new buses the most.

This is true. It'll be interesting to see how many are there.

I've added the event to the NEB calendar.

About 5-6 years ago maybe, I remember a Magic Bus being on service 39/40 one day when i was out and about in Newcastle, Obviously Magic bus had long gone by then, assuming that it had came from Manchester on loan or something.

Anyone got any more details or even a photo of this bus

Just a quick Question, in the Summer how do the MAN Buses you have cope? i ask as here in the North West at Gillmoss Depot our MAN Enviro 300's fail left, right and centre and that always means that Withdrawn Buses have to be reinstated, is that the case down here?

(05 Feb 2014, 8:05 am)Y961 XBU wrote [ -> ]Just a quick Question, in the Summer how do the MAN Buses you have cope? i ask as here in the North West at Gillmoss Depot our MAN Enviro 300's fail left, right and centre and that always means that Withdrawn Buses have to be reinstated, is that the case down here?

In my experience (I drove them for 2 years...) they do tend to overheat quite a lot, and two have had to have replacement engines already. Not to mention they have an outstation at the MAN yard in Stockton where you will usually find at least one E300...

Closure of Alston Crescent, affecting Service 23 Service Update
Between Tuesday 11 and Wednesday 13 February 2014, Sunderland City Council will need to temporarily close Alston Crescent to allow for road resurfacing works.

Last Updated : 5 February 2014 15:48

As a result of this closure, Service 23 will be temporarily unable to serve its normal bus stops along Alston Crescent.

During the closure periods, Service 23 buses will instead continue along the full length of Dovedale Road into Shields Road. Buses will terminate at the southbound layby before u-turning at the Shields Road/ Newcastle Road roundabout, and then traversing back along the full length of Dovedale Road and Dene Lane, resuming normal routes at the Blue Bell junction.

Service 23 will observe all buses stops along the line of the diversionary route.

Clearly, whilst we will be endeavouring to operate Service 23 in accordance with its published timetables, as well as continuing to liaise with our colleagues at Sunderland City Council to mitigate any problems, there is the potential that bus services in the area may be subject to localised delays.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these highways works by Sunderland City Council may cause, and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

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Closures of Bexhill Road in Town End Farm, affecting Services 4 and 13 Service Update
On Friday 14 and Monday 17 February 2014, Sunderland City Council will need to temporarily close Bexhill Road in Town End Farm Estate to allow for road resurfacing works.

Last Updated : 5 February 2014 16:19

The road closures are programmed to be in place during the following periods:

Friday 14 February, between approx 9.00 – 1500.
Monday 17 February, between approx 8.00 – 1700.

During closure periods, buses will divert as follows:

* Service 4 from Kingsway Road via Hylton Lane (south end), Washington Road, Blackwood Road, returning to the city centre via Brunswick Road Hylton Lane (central section), Kingsway Road, then normal routes.

* Service 13 from Washington Road via Blackwood Road, returning to the city centre via Brunswick Road, Hylton Lane (southern section), Washington Road, then normal routes.

As a result of these closures, Services 4 and 13 will be temporarily unable to serve their normal bus stops around Baxter Road, Baxter Avenue or Bexhill Road. Buses will also be unable to serve their normal ‘out of town’ bus stops along Hylton Lane and Brunswick Road. Buses will however, observe all stops along the line of their diversionary routes.

Outside the closure periods outlined above, Services 4 and 13 should be able to operate their normal routes.

Clearly, whilst we will be endeavouring to operate Services 4 and 13 in accordance with their published timetables, as well as continuing to liaise with our colleagues at Sunderland City Council to mitigate any problems, there is the potential that bus services in the area may be subject to localised delays.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these highways works by Sunderland City Council may cause, and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

VOSA registrations ahead of the cutting of Boroughbus funding by Stockton Borough Council

PB0001987/211 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Park End and North Tees Hospital given service number 37 effective from 31-Mar-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB0001987/221 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stockton High Street and Billingham High Grange given service number 35 effective from 31-Mar-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB0001987/236 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stockton High Street and Stockton High Street given service number 558 effective from 29-Mar-2014.

Sunderland services needs a refresh different numbers routes etc

Sunderland gas bus out and about today.. just past the stadium of light.. think it was 28008.

Looked very smart....

Here's me sitting on the 29 which is a cadet and sounds terrible.

Michael. 10 Extra Buses are coming to south shields next Month For the Service X34 which is Using Enviro 400's just now. They are coming from Newcastle which I have learnt about from a shields Driver I Know. Regards Robin

(06 Feb 2014, 9:31 pm)Robinwtait.19 wrote [ -> ]Michael. 10 Extra Buses are coming to south shields next Month For the Service X34 which is Using Enviro 400's just now. They are coming from Newcastle which I have learnt about from a shields Driver I Know. Regards Robin

I wouldn't believe everything you get told by drivers....

(06 Feb 2014, 9:52 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]I wouldn't believe everything you get told by drivers....

If this is true (lets just say) why would they need '10 buses'

Dont Shields just have the 3 Enviro 400's in servive for X34.

And what would Newcastle get in return anyways, it doesnt make much sense.

Although it wouldnt surprise me.

(06 Feb 2014, 11:04 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote [ -> ]Although it wouldnt surprise me.

One hell of a frequency increase which has not been registered on VOSA..!

(06 Feb 2014, 11:10 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]One hell of a frequency increase which has not been registered on VOSA..!

There's still time in fantasy land...

(06 Feb 2014, 11:10 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]One hell of a frequency increase which has not been registered on VOSA..!

Or the shields drivers are drinking alot more than usual.

(07 Feb 2014, 1:25 am)Arcticrossy92 wrote [ -> ]Or the shields drivers are drinking alot more than usual.

yes, I would take what Robintwat said with a pinch of salt.

Wasn't it mooted last year that there was a possible e300/e400 swap between shields and byker to increase capacity on busiest economic runs? Also as this July marks 20 years since stagecoach acquired busways wouldn't it be great if it was marked by repainting one vehicle from each division into respective busways liverys? Just a thought

Regards
Chris

(07 Feb 2014, 2:01 pm)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]Wasn't it mooted last year that there was a possible e300/e400 swap between shields and byker to increase capacity on busiest economic runs? Also as this July marks 20 years since stagecoach acquired busways wouldn't it be great if it was marked by repainting one vehicle from each division into respective busways liverys? Just a thought

Regards
Chris

Indeed it would Chris.

Or perhaps follow First Group in Somerset's lead and paint all Busways and Transit vehicles into a non-corporate scheme.

Regards
David

(05 Feb 2014, 11:39 pm)Acky81 wrote [ -> ]Sunderland services needs a refresh different numbers routes etc

I've seen this mentioned before on here but no explanation as to what's wrong with the current (and stable!) network. I don't live in the North East any more so I can't see for myself the issues that there may be with this network so can I ask you to expand on this please?

Kind Regards
David P

Fleet movements in Period 10 are as follows:

Busways -
19160 NK07 HBC ADL ENVIRO 400 Slatyford to Temp Delicenced
22021 NK03 XJM MAN ALX300 In service at Sunderland
22039 NK53 KFD MAN ALX300 In service at Slatyford
22040 NK53 KFE MAN ALX300 Slatyford to Temp Delicenced
22047 NK53 KFP MAN ALX300 In service at Slatyford
22473 T473 BNL MAN ALX300 In service at Slatyford
22479 T479 BNL MAN ALX300 Slatyford to Reserve
33121 R121 KRG DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Alpha Recovery
33125 R125 KRG DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Alpha Recovery
33128 R128 KRG DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Alpha Recovery
33826 R826 YUD DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Trevor Wigley
33829 R829 YUD DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Alpha Recovery
35158 NK56 EPE DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Sunderland


Transit -
33486 R466 SEF DENNIS DART SLF Sold to Alpha Recovery
34567 NK04 LBA DENNIS DART SLF In service at Hartlepool
35158 NK56 EPE DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Sunderland


With thanks to Richard Smiles for e-mailing me with the fleet cards, in turn allowing me to share the information on the forum.
I will update the fleet lists at some point this evening.

(07 Feb 2014, 2:01 pm)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]Wasn't it mooted last year that there was a possible e300/e400 swap between shields and byker to increase capacity on busiest economic runs? Also as this July marks 20 years since stagecoach acquired busways wouldn't it be great if it was marked by repainting one vehicle from each division into respective busways liverys? Just a thought

Regards
Chris

Sadly, this has already been raised by a member of staff from Stockton (this November marks the 20th anniversary of the takeover of Transit) about painting a vehicle into Transit colours prior to a proposed open day and it was rejected.

(07 Feb 2014, 10:24 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Sadly, this has already been raised by a member of staff from Stockton (this November marks the 20th anniversary of the takeover of Transit) about painting a vehicle into Transit colours prior to a proposed open day and it was rejected.

Sad people, reviving the old days is what we need these days!

(07 Feb 2014, 6:30 pm)DavidP wrote [ -> ]I've seen this mentioned before on here but no explanation as to what's wrong with the current (and stable!) network. I don't live in the North East any more so I can't see for myself the issues that there may be with this network so can I ask you to expand on this please?

Kind Regards
David P

Quite right, if there's nowt wrong, don't fiddle with it. Stagecoach obviously does well in Sunderland and Newcastle and doesn't need the instability from the constant chopping, changing and cutting by Go North East and Arriva. However it would be nice to move away from the corporate livery, if not to route branding, why not yellow buses in Newcastle, blue for South Shields, brown on the E routes and green or red (depending what era you want to go back to) for Sunderland!!! Although at least the Stagecoach livery is attractive, opposed to the dreary corporate colours of Arriva and the non branded GNE buses.

As I m more interested in Route development than bus vehicles, I would like to see new routes, if only to have something new to analyse and talk about . Clearly I wouldn't want Stagecoach to do a Go North East , and constantly change their services every few months.

I just think stagecoach need to introduce or extend some routes. It was 2005 when we had a major shake up. Loads of new estates opened up and some gone. New shopping areas. Perhaps have some to Washington Seaham. Don't get me wrong some routes are good but others ie 18/19 run empty. What routes could open up?? Looking forward to gas buses

(07 Feb 2014, 2:01 pm)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]Wasn't it mooted last year that there was a possible e300/e400 swap between shields and byker to increase capacity on busiest economic runs? Also as this July marks 20 years since stagecoach acquired busways wouldn't it be great if it was marked by repainting one vehicle from each division into respective busways liverys? Just a thought

Regards
Chris

I like your idea

The 18/19 isn't dead however is usually running 5 mins late!