I hope SNE decide to convert some of the redundant MANs into training buses to upgrade the training fleet, like several other areas are starting to do.
Is the X34 being rebranded? becasue the brand more more more with your X34 will be redundant at the end of the month.
(12 Jan 2017, 6:05 pm)Ds1197 wrote [ -> ]Is the X34 being rebranded? becasue the brand more more more with your X34 will be redundant at the end of the month.
Ive got a feeling it could be inline for a rebrand soon, To tie it in with the X24, Which for half of the route runs alongside the X34.
Never heard anything about the " More more more with your X34 " being dropped soon though, Correct me if I'm wrong.
(12 Jan 2017, 6:54 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote [ -> ]Ive got a feeling it could be inline for a rebrand soon, To tie it in with the X24, Which for half of the route runs alongside the X34.
Never heard anything about the " More more more with your X34 " being dropped soon though, Correct me if I'm wrong.
Nothing been said about stagecoach dropping that brand but the brand was brought in because of the 20 minutes frequency so I personally and a few of my friends think the tagline will be made redundant when the X34 goes back to every 30 minutes
(12 Jan 2017, 11:00 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Ah cool, so they went with the one i got sent.
I'm off to work soon, so won't get a chance to see it, might have a pop down Wheatsheaf when i can, might be parked up.
I passed late last night and one was parked round the gas bus refuelling lane.
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(13 Jan 2017, 4:32 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]I may as well copy off Jimmi...
They have done a really good job of that, certainly appeals to me which is what branding should do.
(13 Jan 2017, 4:34 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Looks really good, it's a proper branding.
A good overall brand, But it looks a bit cluttered around the rear in my opinion.
Really like that branding. Colour scheme works together and suits the Omnilink well. The Express message is clear and effective. Only slight criticism is maybe the pricing should be more towards the front of the bus such as below the Sunderland- Newcastle lettering as the lower pricing is important to attract passengers to a new service over competition so should be as clear as possible. Maybe when I see it in real life though it will stand out enough. Overall much better than I thought it would be.
(14 Jan 2017, 12:20 am)Pulsar wrote [ -> ]Really like that branding. Colour scheme works together and suits the Omnilink well. The Express message is clear and effective. Only slight criticism is maybe the pricing should be more towards the front of the bus such as below the Sunderland- Newcastle lettering as the lower pricing is important to attract passengers to a new service over competition so should be as clear as possible. Maybe when I see it in real life though it will stand out enough. Overall much better than I thought it would be.
does anyone know the launch date?
(14 Jan 2017, 12:36 am)Buses98 wrote [ -> ]does anyone know the launch date?
Service starts on 30th January as said in the upcoming changes thread.
(14 Jan 2017, 12:25 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]27509 has entered service at Stockton today on 10/11 cycle
Are they going to be allocated to a certain service(s) or just put on anything?
(14 Jan 2017, 12:28 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Are they going to be allocated to a certain service(s) or just put on anything?
Likely to be allocated to the 10/11. Of course, wouldn't be at all surprised to see them turn up anywhere.
(14 Jan 2017, 1:25 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Likely to be allocated to the 10/11. Of course, wouldn't be at all surprised to see them turn up anywhere.
Mint, thanks for the info.
(15 Jan 2017, 9:38 am)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]New cheaper return fares for areas of Sunderland
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...d70f99be49
Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.
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Stagecoach also have a offer on for the new X24:
To celebrate the launch of the X24 we are offering an introductory 1 week fare exclusive to service X24!
Between 30 January-4 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £5.00.
Between 6 February-11 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £10.00.
From 13 February onward the best 7 day ticket is the £13.35 Tyne and Wear Megarider, valid on Stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...h-east/x24
(15 Jan 2017, 9:55 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.
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Stagecoach also have a offer on for the new X24:
To celebrate the launch of the X24 we are offering an introductory 1 week fare exclusive to service X24!
Between 30 January-4 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £5.00.
Between 6 February-11 February 2017, 1 week tickets will be £10.00.
From 13 February onward the best 7 day ticket is the £13.35 Tyne and Wear Megarider, valid on Stagecoach throughout Tyne and Wear.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...h-east/x24
Looks like you can only buy the cheap return fares from service 12 and 13 only, but can use the return ticket on service 3,4,12 and 13
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(15 Jan 2017, 9:55 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Not bad prices, least you can use it on the 3 and 4 in the same area's.
Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.
I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.
Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum
here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).
(15 Jan 2017, 10:22 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.
I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.
Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).
12 and 13 haven't had any cuts in this upcoming changes, so they must be doing ok on a 20 minute frequency (10 combined) but doesn't mean they won't in the future.
I'm expecting the 18 to go by end of the year, they cut it last year and now later in the month it's cut again so expecting more later in the year.
(15 Jan 2017, 10:26 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]12 and 13 haven't had any cuts in this upcoming changes, so they must be doing ok on a 20 minute frequency (10 combined)
Yes; but if passengers currently buying a dayrider for £3.95 opt to purchase a return of £2.60 instead (£1.35 difference), and the reduction in price doesn't attract enough passengers to cover this, further cutbacks could come in the future.
In order to make £395.00, Stagecoach need to sell 100 dayriders. If all 100 of these passengers opt for a £2.60 return instead, they'd only make £260.00 (a loss of £135.00). They'd have to attract an additional 52 passengers buying return tickets to cover the loss, in this example. If Stagecoach only manage to attract an additional 30 passengers from Go North East, they won't have covered their losses, and Go North East's profits will be dented too, potentially resulting in cutbacks on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services in this area.
Obviously it's not quite as simple as that, but just to throw a few simple numbers into the equation. Competition can be great for passengers (and I think the X24 is a great example of this), but competition in areas where there is already dense competition, has the chance to backfire and at the detriment of passengers.
(15 Jan 2017, 10:22 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]Tremendous prices, really, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the long term.
I've always thought that Stagecoach's day ticket represents very good value for money, but at the same time, wondered how much money they must make from that ticket. Now they're introducing even cheaper return tickets which represent even better value for money, for infrequent travellers.
Crusader made an interesting point recently elsewhere on the forum here. Competition is all well and good - only time will tell what sort of impact this will have on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services operating between the City Centre and Silksworth. If neither operator is making money on these services, we could well see further cutbacks (from either operator).
GNE are £2.70 for a return Silksworth to Sunderland so not a massive difference to be fair.
(15 Jan 2017, 10:35 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]Yes; but if passengers currently buying a dayrider for £3.95 opt to purchase a return of £2.60 instead (£1.35 difference), and the reduction in price doesn't attract enough passengers to cover this, further cutbacks could come in the future.
In order to make £395.00, Stagecoach need to sell 100 dayriders. If all 100 of these passengers opt for a £2.60 return instead, they'd only make £260.00 (a loss of £135.00). They'd have to attract an additional 52 passengers buying return tickets to cover the loss, in this example. If Stagecoach only manage to attract an additional 30 passengers from Go North East, they won't have covered their losses, and Go North East's profits will be dented too, potentially resulting in cutbacks on both Stagecoach and Go North East's services in this area.
Obviously it's not quite as simple as that, but just to throw a few simple numbers into the equation. Competition can be great for passengers (and I think the X24 is a great example of this), but competition in areas where there is already dense competition, has the chance to backfire and at the detriment of passengers.
Ye, it'll have an impact on both companies in the area.
The X24 is great competition for GNE, i think i can see a few people jumping to the X24 between Sunderland and Hastings Hill because of the price of the day ticket and the Tyne and Wear day ticket prices and it only takes 43 minutes, it also offers WIFI, and the possibility of plugs (if they can get them working!) something which the 2/2A doesn't have at the minute (going by the the route so not including the 56).
From Sunderland to Washington to Galleries takes 42 minutes and then 35 minutes on the X1 taking a total of 77 minutes (not including waiting times between 2/2A and X1)
I know which service i would go for!
Unless GNE will sort out that problem and launch their own service via the X24 route!
(15 Jan 2017, 9:38 am)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]New cheaper return fares for areas of Sunderland
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...d70f99be49
It's that corridor again...
There's obviously a market and a demand (just look at previous price offers and the number of routes operating in those areas). Is there a market to sustain the competition and two operators?
(15 Jan 2017, 5:42 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]It's that corridor again...
There's obviously a market and a demand (just look at previous price offers and the number of routes operating in those areas). Is there a market to sustain the competition and two operators?
Probables not but it's going to be interesting to see how it pans out.
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