North East Buses

6942 at Consett tonight

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(21 Mar 2022, 8:14 pm)Tiger5105 wrote [ -> ]6942 at Consett tonight

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That needs to come back to Deptford, there has been too many single deckers on the 56.

(21 Mar 2022, 9:29 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]That needs to come back to Deptford, there has been too many single deckers on the 56.

6942 was allocated to Deptford for scholars, not for the 56 - so this being reinstated would make no difference to allocations on the 56.

3943 has been long-term VOR, meaning one of Deptford’s two spare Volvo B9s has been deputising on the scholars every day, but has just recently returned to service so this should no longer be the case.


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(21 Mar 2022, 10:11 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]6942 was allocated to Deptford for scholars, not for the 56 - so this being reinstated would make no difference to allocations on the 56.

3943 has been long-term VOR, meaning one of Deptford’s two spare Volvo B9s has been deputising on the scholars every day, but has just recently returned to service so this should no longer be the case.


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Well there were two single deckers on today, granted one was replaced with 3943, but one of those operated the 5025. 

atleast 6942 would bring a higher capacity. The only think B9's have on 6942 is high backed seats pretty sure people would rahter be on that than crammed on a single decker

(21 Mar 2022, 10:38 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Well there were two single deckers on today, granted one was replaced with 3943, but one of those operated the 5025. 

atleast 6942 would bring a higher capacity. The only think B9's have on 6942 is high backed seats pretty sure people would rahter be on that than crammed on a single decker

Or 6942 could do the scholars and release a B9 onto the 56 - either way would improve capacity on 56

(21 Mar 2022, 11:10 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Or 6942 could do the scholars and release a B9 onto the 56 - either way would improve capacity on 56

Bus companies cannot keep buses forever - if the bus has been replaced in the fleet, it needs to go. Depots don’t have the budget to maintain an abundance of surplus spare vehicles.

The school contract that 6942 was allocated to was converted to a coach. The school contract 3943 is allocated to requires a bus with a minimum of 70 seats, so 6942 couldn’t be allocated to this anyway.

Two spare vehicles (6086 and 6087) for a combined PVR of 12 (11x service 56 and 1x scholars) is fairly generous actually and I cannot see further vehicles being allocated in the near future.


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(22 Mar 2022, 6:30 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]Bus companies cannot keep buses forever - if the bus has been replaced in the fleet, it needs to go. Depots don’t have the budget to maintain an abundance of surplus spare vehicles.

The school contract that 6942 was allocated to was converted to a coach. The school contract 3943 is allocated to requires a bus with a minimum of 70 seats, so 6942 couldn’t be allocated to this anyway.

Two spare vehicles (6086 and 6087) for a combined PVR of 12 (11x service 56 and 1x scholars) is fairly generous actually and I cannot see further vehicles being allocated in the near future.


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Yeah, but 6942 is a Euro 5, a lot of the buses which are older and are still using including 3943 are Euro 4.

(22 Mar 2022, 8:39 am)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Yeah, but 6942 is a Euro 5, a lot of the buses which are older and are still using including 3943 are Euro 4.

In this context that's not really relevant.

6942 is a dual-door bus which, by and large, is unsuitable for normal service work. It was never supposed to be allocated to the 56, and the fact that it regularly was is why it was quickly replaced. The school service it was allocated to is now allocated a coach, and the coach can be used on private hire and rail replacement work on a weekend.

(22 Mar 2022, 8:54 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]In this context that's not really relevant.

6942 is a dual-door bus which, by and large, is unsuitable for normal service work. It was never supposed to be allocated to the 56, and the fact that it regularly was is why it was quickly replaced. The school service it was allocated to is now allocated a coach, and the coach can be used on private hire and rail replacement work on a weekend.

Fair Enough.

I read the forum regularly and with great interest to the various developments. But may I ask why, of all the large multi operations does Go Ahead and Arriva not have national numbering schemes? It must be a pain administration wise to keep up with the various documentation without the added practicality of physically changing vehicle numbers.

Many thanks in advance for any answers.

(23 Mar 2022, 8:27 am)kernow dave wrote [ -> ]I read the forum regularly and with great interest to the various developments. But may I ask why, of all the large multi operations does Go Ahead and Arriva not have national numbering schemes? It must be a pain administration wise to keep up with the various documentation without the added practicality of physically changing vehicle numbers.

Many thanks in advance for any answers.

If I were to take a guess, I'd say it's because, with GNE at least, each area operates pretty much independently as it's own unit. Vehicles are owned by each local operator rather than at a group level.

Dan has confirmed on a Facebook post that 8305/6 should have been withdrawn from today.

From posts today:

All Omnicities apart from one have been withdrawn.


Probs more but nothing else been confirmed.

Seems to be a lot of vehicles being let go, wonder if they will be replaced (when needed) with newer second hand vehicles from else where in the group

(27 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]Seems to be a lot of vehicles being let go, wonder if they will be replaced (when needed) with newer second hand vehicles from else where in the group

Ye it does, hopefully decent...

(27 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]Seems to be a lot of vehicles being let go, wonder if they will be replaced (when needed) with newer second hand vehicles from else where in the group

Or further reductions and consolidation? Not sure what else they can transfer 'internally' from EY, in addition to the electric bus bid, which obviously wasn't a success.

The fleet has been gradually reducing in size for years now. Post pandemic, I can't see that stopping.

(27 Mar 2022, 10:33 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Or further reductions and consolidation? Not sure what else they can transfer 'internally' from EY, in addition to the electric bus bid, which obviously wasn't a success.

The fleet has been gradually reducing in size for years now. Post pandemic, I can't see that stopping.

It used to be north of 700, probs down to low 600 now.

(27 Mar 2022, 8:46 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]Seems to be a lot of vehicles being let go, wonder if they will be replaced (when needed) with newer second hand vehicles from else where in the group

I cannot see them being replaced, as Go North East have permanently reduced a lot of services and lost contracts as well.

Looks like 625-634 and 639 have now been withdrawn. I suspect 639 will be transferring to Go North West to join 637 and 638. As for the others, I can see them transferring to Go South Coast to replace older Solos (the oldest of which are nearly twice their age at 52 reg!)

As for 8305/6, both of those aren't withdrawn and are still tracking on Bustimes today. On the other hand, 8300/1 haven't been tracked since the 25th and 19th respectively, so it's possible that they've been withdrawn instead.

8301 is/was parked round the back at Chester, was involved in a incident on the 19th

6943 (or well atleast the ticket machine) is back in service at CLS.

(27 Mar 2022, 8:37 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Dan has confirmed on a Facebook post that 8305/6 should have been withdrawn from today.

From posts today:

All Omnicities apart from one have been withdrawn.


Probs more but nothing else been confirmed.

5240 (NK56 KHH) is for sale via Ensign - https://www.ensignbus.com/scania-cn230.html

8305 has also been reinstated seeing use at Washington over the past week with it also being in service with Deptford the week before.

(19 Apr 2022, 6:33 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]5240 (NK56 KHH) is for sale via Ensign - https://www.ensignbus.com/scania-cn230.html

8305 has also been reinstated seeing use at Washington over the past week with it also being in service with Deptford the week before.

It is about time the Go North East Fleetlist was updated. Still showing December 19th 2021

6943 is now at the front of Riverside with Martjin's Bus

(19 Apr 2022, 6:33 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]5240 (NK56 KHH) is for sale via Ensign - https://www.ensignbus.com/scania-cn230.html

8305 has also been reinstated seeing use at Washington over the past week with it also being in service with Deptford the week before.

Noticed on Monday evening that 8305 was at Riverside so possibly withdrawn now.

Preserved- London General PVL390, LX54HAA | Bromley Bus Preservation Group by LondonTransport3 (Mark), on Flickr

6942 has been sold to Bromley Bus Preservation Group


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3996 has left the fleet on the back of an Alpha Recovery vehicle.

Go North East 3996 / GX03 STZ by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

(11 May 2022, 2:18 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote [ -> ]3996 has left the fleet on the back of an Alpha Recovery vehicle.

Go North East 3996 / GX03 STZ by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

Probably don't want anyone to see it at the Riverside Depot Open Day. So towed it away foe scrap

Well to be honest anyone blessed with vision going around handy drive could have seen it parked up in the depot, they didn't exactly hide it.

(11 May 2022, 2:37 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Probably don't want anyone to see it at the Riverside Depot Open Day. So towed it away foe scrap

I wonder if they will clear out the other withdrawn buses that are there

Pretty sure all breakdowns on Sunday will be taken to other depots