North East Buses

We have decided to combine a number of threads into one for Procters Group - mainly due to the number of changes expected to happen in the next few months to all companies within the group. I would expect to see a number of vehicles transferred around too!

Procters Group consists of a number of companies all owned by Mr Procter. These include
Procters Coaches - based at Leeming Bar
Dales & District - based at Leeming Bar too, operating the public services
Compass Royston - based at Stockton
Leven Valley - now based at Stockton too, as part of CR fleet/depot
Esk Valley - based at Whitby
There are other brand names too including Coach2.com and the Procters Bus & Coach Sales arm of the business, plus Swift Signs and the Procters Motorsport team.

Links to the old threads can be found here
Compass Royston - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9
Leven Valley - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=303
Procters - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=552
Dales & District - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=331

Me and a mate visited Compass Royston earlier to get some photos in the depot and while there was nothing new (yet!), it was interesting to see the Leven Valley fleet there, definitely stands out amongst the Compass fleet with the yellow! We also had a look at the Procters' depots, and although there was no-one there we did manage to note down all of the coaches at the "farm" (the one you can see from the A1) - as with Compass a lot of the higher end fleet was away, although the very smart Astromega was in, along with one of the Tourliners and the Bova Magiq. Notable omissions were the entire Lochs & Glens liveried fleet of Jonckheeres, which must have been away.

(16 Mar 2014, 9:34 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]We have decided to combine a number of threads into one for Procters Group - mainly due to the number of changes expected to happen in the next few months to all companies within the group. I would expect to see a number of vehicles transferred around too!

Procters Group consists of a number of companies all owned by Mr Procter. These include
Procters Coaches - based at Leeming Bar
Dales & District - based at Leeming Bar too, operating the public services
Compass Royston - based at Stockton
Leven Valley - now based at Stockton too, as part of CR fleet/depot
Esk Valley - based at Whitby
There are other brand names too including Coach2.com and the Procters Bus & Coach Sales arm of the business, plus Swift Signs and the Procters Motorsport team.

Links to the old threads can be found here
Compass Royston - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9
Leven Valley - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=303
Procters - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=552
Dales & District - http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=331

Me and a mate visited Compass Royston earlier to get some photos in the depot and while there was nothing new (yet!), it was interesting to see the Leven Valley fleet there, definitely stands out amongst the Compass fleet with the yellow! We also had a look at the Procters' depots, and although there was no-one there we did manage to note down all of the coaches at the "farm" (the one you can see from the A1) - as with Compass a lot of the higher end fleet was away, although the very smart Astromega was in, along with one of the Tourliners and the Bova Magiq. Notable omissions were the entire Lochs & Glens liveried fleet of Jonckheeres, which must have been away.

There are generally one or two Lochs and Glen branded vehicles parked up at Leeming.
Will have a look in the morning.

(16 Mar 2014, 9:41 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote [ -> ]There are generally one or two Lochs and Glen branded vehicles parked up at Leeming.
Will have a look in the morning.

Yeah last time I went past there were 3 or 4 but none were there today. Only one of the Tourliners was in too (out of the 3) - the schools fleet were there but many of the higher end tour fleet were out.

(16 Mar 2014, 9:48 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Yeah last time I went past there were 3 or 4 but none were there today. Only one of the Tourliners was in too (out of the 3) - the schools fleet were there but many of the higher end tour fleet were out.

Nothing has changed.
The Astromega was parked where the Lochs and Glens usually are, with several unidentified coaches at the back - away from the A1.

Leven Valley have registered two new services this morning to start on 6th May. I reckon these are a replacement for the current 'R66' service running between Stockton and Teesside Park, extended back to start at Norton and Hartburn.

Another registration on VOSA.

PB1125708/4 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ

Variation Accepted: Operating between MIDDLESBROUGH BUS STATION and MIDDLESBROUGH BUS STATION given service number 45 effective from 06-May-2014. To amend Timetable

Now confirmed that Dales & District will operate a (reduced) Ripon City service 131 commercially in place of the current Eddie Brown services withdrawn as a result of funding cuts by NYCC

So, we now have:

18 Middlesbrough-Marton-Coulby Newham-Hemlington-Stainton-Middlesbrough
19 Middlesbrough - Stainton - Hemlington - Coulby Newham - Marton - Middlesbrough
45 Middlesbrough - Billingham - Wolviston Court
66 Stockton - Teesside Park
77 Stockton - Preston-on-Tees - Eaglescliffe Kingsmead - Yarm - Yarm Station - Yarm Willey Flatts - Yarm
84
85 Stockton - Bishopton Road – Elton Park – Oxbridge – Stockton – Portrack ASDA
86 Portrack ASDA - Stockton - Oxbridge - Elton Park - Bishopton Road - Stockton
88
436 Middlesbrough - Stockton - Billingham
455/456 Bankfields - Eston - Middlesbrough( - Marton - Nunthorpe) (Bracket section weekdays only)
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston – Normanby Flatts Lane (Bexley Drive End)
603 Middlesbrough – Coulby Newham– Hemlington – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
604 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
605 Middlesbrough – Marton – Coulby Newham – Hemlington – Middlesbrough
606 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Marton – Middlesbrough
607 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Saltersgill – Middlesbrough
A66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Norton
H66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Hartburn
PR1 Teesside University Park & Ride

Code
Services listed in italic text are changing/new services (77/85/6 are changes, 84/88/A66/H66 are new)
Services listed in underlined text are services due to change or are unknown after 31st March 2014

(20 Mar 2014, 2:03 pm)Richard Smiles wrote [ -> ]The latest snippet from my brother suggests that Leven will NOT now be doing the PR1, Tony. It will be the Compass Royston Coach Drivers, that will have that particular pleasure.

Updated list then:

18 Middlesbrough-Marton-Coulby Newham-Hemlington-Stainton-Middlesbrough
19 Middlesbrough - Stainton - Hemlington - Coulby Newham - Marton - Middlesbrough
45 Middlesbrough - Billingham - Wolviston Court
66 Stockton - Teesside Park
77 Stockton - Preston-on-Tees - Eaglescliffe Kingsmead - Yarm - Yarm Station - Yarm Willey Flatts - Yarm
84
85 Stockton - Bishopton Road – Elton Park – Oxbridge – Stockton – Portrack ASDA
86 Portrack ASDA - Stockton - Oxbridge - Elton Park - Bishopton Road - Stockton
88
436 Middlesbrough - Stockton - Billingham
455/456 Bankfields - Eston - Middlesbrough( - Marton - Nunthorpe) (Bracket section weekdays only)
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston – Normanby Flatts Lane (Bexley Drive End)
603 Middlesbrough – Coulby Newham– Hemlington – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
604 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
605 Middlesbrough – Marton – Coulby Newham – Hemlington – Middlesbrough
606 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Marton – Middlesbrough
607 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Saltersgill – Middlesbrough
A66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Norton
H66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Hartburn

Code
Services listed in italic text are changing/new services (77/85/6 are changes, 84/88/A66/H66 are new)
Services listed in underlined text are services due to change or are unknown after 31st March 2014

Ive not seen T14 CRT for ages(?)

(20 Mar 2014, 2:15 pm)David McGloin wrote [ -> ]Ive not seen T14 CRT for ages(?)

Was in Compass' depot last Sunday with a tow rope attached to the back...

As expected the R66/66X are officially cancelled from may 5th

First details of last week's registered services can now be officially confirmed:

18 Middlesbrough-Marton-Coulby Newham-Hemlington-Stainton-Middlesbrough
19 Middlesbrough - Stainton - Hemlington - Coulby Newham - Marton - Middlesbrough
45 Middlesbrough - Billingham - Wolviston Court
66 Stockton - Teesside Park (until 3rd May 2014, no service 5th May 2014 due to Bank Holiday)
77 Stockton - Preston-on-Tees - Eaglescliffe Kingsmead - Yarm - Yarm Station - Yarm Willey Flatts - Yarm
84 Stockton - Sparks Bakery - Durham Road - North Tees Hospital - (Thorpe Thewles from June 2014) - Carlton - Redmarshall - Whitton - Stillington
85 Stockton - Bishopton Road – Elton Park – Oxbridge – Stockton – Portrack ASDA
86 Portrack ASDA - Stockton - Oxbridge - Elton Park - Bishopton Road - Stockton
88
436 Middlesbrough - Stockton - Billingham
455/456 Bankfields - Eston - Middlesbrough( - Marton - Nunthorpe) (Bracket section weekdays only)
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston – Normanby Flatts Lane (Bexley Drive End)
603 Middlesbrough – Coulby Newham– Hemlington – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
604 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
605 Middlesbrough – Marton – Coulby Newham – Hemlington – Middlesbrough
606 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Marton – Middlesbrough
607 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Saltersgill – Middlesbrough
A66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Norton
H66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Hartburn

Code
Services listed in italic text are changing/new services (77/85/6 are changes, 84/88/A66/H66 are new)

88 is a commercial replacement for the 588 Transporter - Cowpen Bewley - Billingham - High Grange - Wolviston - Billingham - Transporter, with the 89 running direct Transporter - Portrack - Stockton at start/end of the day and once at lunchtime

(25 Mar 2014, 10:32 am)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]First details of last week's registered services can now be officially confirmed:

18 Middlesbrough-Marton-Coulby Newham-Hemlington-Stainton-Middlesbrough
19 Middlesbrough - Stainton - Hemlington - Coulby Newham - Marton - Middlesbrough
45 Middlesbrough - Billingham - Wolviston Court
66 Stockton - Teesside Park (until 3rd May 2014, no service 5th May 2014 due to Bank Holiday)
77 Stockton - Preston-on-Tees - Eaglescliffe Kingsmead - Yarm - Yarm Station - Yarm Willey Flatts - Yarm
84 Stockton - Sparks Bakery - Durham Road - North Tees Hospital - (Thorpe Thewles from June 2014) - Carlton - Redmarshall - Whitton - Stillington
85 Stockton - Bishopton Road – Elton Park – Oxbridge – Stockton – Portrack ASDA
86 Portrack ASDA - Stockton - Oxbridge - Elton Park - Bishopton Road - Stockton
88
436 Middlesbrough - Stockton - Billingham
455/456 Bankfields - Eston - Middlesbrough( - Marton - Nunthorpe) (Bracket section weekdays only)
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston – Normanby Flatts Lane (Bexley Drive End)
603 Middlesbrough – Coulby Newham– Hemlington – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
604 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
605 Middlesbrough – Marton – Coulby Newham – Hemlington – Middlesbrough
606 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Marton – Middlesbrough
607 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Saltersgill – Middlesbrough
A66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Norton
H66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Hartburn

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Services listed in italic text are changing/new services (77/85/6 are changes, 84/88/A66/H66 are new)

When do these start?

(25 Mar 2014, 2:52 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]When do these start?

Services 18/19, 45, 436, 455/456, 492, 603/604 and 605/6/7 are already operated.

Services 77 and 85/86 are the former evening services 577 and 505/506 respectively (85/86 also run all day Sunday while 77 only runs evenings all week) and start next Monday (31st March 2014)

Service 84 and 88/89 are new services start on Monday 31st March 2014. Service 88 is, as stated above, a part-replacement for the 588/589 service in the Billingham area while the 89 is simply a positioning service for the 88 via Portrack Lane between Stockton and the Transporter. Service 84 is, in effect, the current Arriva service 6 between Stockton and Stillington (abit returning from Stillington the same way rather than operating the present loop) and additionally serves North Tees Hospital but from June takes the route of the former 584/585 between The Horse and Jockey Pub (opposite Summerville Tesco) and Carlton (the road between Carlton and Thorpe Thewles is closed while the weak bridge is replaced).

The A66/H66 replaces the R66/66x from Tuesday the 6th May (although the last date of operation for the R66/66x is Saturday 3rd May).

And we now have the 88/89 timetables:

18 Middlesbrough-Marton-Coulby Newham-Hemlington-Stainton-Middlesbrough
19 Middlesbrough - Stainton - Hemlington - Coulby Newham - Marton - Middlesbrough
45 Middlesbrough - Billingham - Wolviston Court
66 Stockton - Teesside Park (until 3rd May 2014, no service 5th May 2014 due to Bank Holiday)
77 Stockton - Preston-on-Tees - Eaglescliffe Kingsmead - Yarm - Yarm Station - Yarm Willey Flatts - Yarm
84 Stockton - Sparks Bakery - Durham Road - North Tees Hospital - (Thorpe Thewles from June 2014) - Carlton - Redmarshall - Whitton - Stillington
85 Stockton - Bishopton Road – Elton Park – Oxbridge – Stockton – Portrack ASDA
86 Portrack ASDA - Stockton - Oxbridge - Elton Park - Bishopton Road - Stockton
88 Transporter - Greenwood Road - Billingham - High Grange - Wolviston - Billingham - Greenwood Road - Transporter
89 Stockton - Portrack Lane - Haverton Hill - Transporter
436 Middlesbrough - Stockton - Billingham
455/456 Bankfields - Eston - Middlesbrough( - Marton - Nunthorpe) (Bracket section weekdays only)
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston – Normanby Flatts Lane (Bexley Drive End)
603 Middlesbrough – Coulby Newham– Hemlington – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
604 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Middlesbrough (Sunday Morning)
605 Middlesbrough – Marton – Coulby Newham – Hemlington – Middlesbrough
606 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Marton – Middlesbrough
607 Middlesbrough – Hemlington – Coulby Newham – Saltersgill – Middlesbrough
A66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Norton
H66 Teesside Park - Stockton - Hartburn

Code
Services listed in italic text are changing/new services (77/85/6 are changes, 84/88/A66/H66 are new)

(20 Mar 2014, 2:58 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Was in Compass' depot last Sunday with a tow rope attached to the back...

To the BACK?!

(28 Mar 2014, 3:29 pm)Richard Smiles wrote [ -> ]A further amendment to Leven Valley's service 77 has been registered
and granted by VOSA from 25 May 2014 (see below).

PB1125708/11 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ

Variation Accepted: Operating between STOCKTON HIGH STREET and STOCKTON HIGH STREET given service number 77 effective from 25-May-2014. To amend Timetable.

Wonder if this is the rumoured Sunday daytime journeys? Determined to make a stamp on the area ...

(27 Mar 2014, 2:28 pm)Roland Pratt wrote [ -> ]To the BACK?!

It was on 565s this morning. White Solo on the Park and Ride.

(28 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm)Roland Pratt wrote [ -> ]It was on 565s this morning. White Solo on the Park and Ride.

W87NDW has been on the P&R all this week.

Notes from Whitby suggest former Procters Vario W995JNF is logo'd up for Esk Valley and was being used on Whitby towns today. Backward step. Possibly freeing up the Darts for transfer??

First morning of the new era and the allocation for the new runs is as followed:

84: GX55LNF
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88: YM52TOU
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Weekday evening 85/86 works off one of the 455/456, while it seems the 77 works off the other (from 1925/1946 respectively).

The evening Leven Valley work operates as followed:

The 1855 85 from Stockton to Portrack ASDA and the 1905 86 from Portrack ASDA to Elton Park and Stockton uses a bus off the 455/456 (the on-request Flatts Lane 456)
From 1935, that is replaced by the other vehicle off the 455/456
The 1848 77 from Stockton using the vehicle off the 45 (finish in Middlesbrough at 1808). This is replaced by a vehicle off the 18/19 at 1948 (the vehicle works the 1705 18 to Stainton and the 1751 19 back).

GX55 LNF is latest to gain leven valley fleetnames

Sadly I just don't get the time these days

Had to laugh at Y191CFS parked up in the bus station with 'Parkway Centre 12A' on its power blind. Intent on winding everyone up I'm sure!

Some shocks on VOSA today:

PB1125708/4 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between MIDDLESBROUGH BUS STATION and MIDDLESBROUGH BUS STATION given service number 45 effective from 06-May-2014. To amend Timetable.

PB1125708/14 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between STOCKTON HIGH STREET and STOCKTON HIGH STREET given service number 88/89 effective from 05-May-2014.

PB1125708/16 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between NORTON GREEN and TEESIDE PARK given service number A66 effective from 06-May-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB1125708/17 - LEVEN VALLEY COACHES LTD, TUTIN ROAD, LEEMING BAR INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, NORTHALLERTON, DL7 9UJ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between HARTBURN, BIRKDALE ROAD and TEESIDE PARK given service number H66 effective from 06-May-2014. To amend Timetable.

W87 NDW is latest solo to gain leven fleetnames

MW52 PYX also now has Leven fleetnames

That one got done first followed by GX55 LNF