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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Feb 2020
(22 Feb 2020, 1:26 pm)AIG20 The upcoming changes in April should allow the remaining darts (34605/11 and 35188/89) to be withdrawn along with most unreliable and knackered MAN E200s.
Scania OmniLinks 24001-3 could also be withdrawn (due to how unreliable they are and as they are not Euro 6) and some ADL E300s cascaded elsewhere if there are frequency changes planned for the 3, 12, 13 and 16?
Hopefully, the darts are horrendous.
Only way to get the 3/12/13 frequency down, was if every service was every 30 minutes (15 combined, currently every 10 minutes combined), but don't think that'll happen, i can see the 4 and 16 dropping to every 12 minutes.
Hopefully we will see the Euro 6 gas buses on the X24 to replace the Omnilinks.
Wonder if the X1 changes are linked with the 4 changing its route?, wonder if the X1 will link with the 18 instead, as i expect more runs will be dropped from the route.
Edit: Talking of the Omnilinks.... only 24001 is out today....
Edit:
New PVR's, if routes go every 12 minutes
4: 7 PVR (was 10)
16: 8 PVR (was 10)
22: 7 PVR (was 8 PVR)
Drop in 6 PVR
Of course could drop by more, if the 20 appears on VOSA.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 22 Feb 2020
They seriously need to review the Newcastle network
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 22 Feb 2020
(22 Feb 2020, 2:26 pm)V514DFT They seriously need to review the Newcastle network
I don't really know the Newcastle network, so can't give some idea's out on how to improve it, but what would you change?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - markydh - 22 Feb 2020
(22 Feb 2020, 2:26 pm)V514DFT They seriously need to review the Newcastle network
Do they? There’s nothing wrong with it. They were going to withdraw the 32 between Benwell and Kenton Bar, and the 18 between the Freeman Hospital and Forest Hall, but NEXUS have stepped in to provide funding for them to stay in place.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 22 Feb 2020
(22 Feb 2020, 6:28 pm)markydh Do they? There’s nothing wrong with it. They were going to withdraw the 32 between Benwell and Kenton Bar, and the 18 between the Freeman Hospital and Forest Hall, but NEXUS have stepped in to provide funding for them to stay in place.And thats good how exactly? So they axed the 15/15A re routed the 32/32A,but no no,that wasnt enough, they then axed the 18 to Forest Hall and Wallsend, replaced it with the 6 and 7 to Forest Hall, a year later decided that wasnt working then the K3 replaced it,that then got axed (yes it was GNE) then Forest Hall lost the link to the Freeman altogether and also lost the link to the Call Centre (yes believe it or not, some people that work there are from Forest Hall) but a couple of months earlier the 1 was extended to the Cobalt, thats just recent examples, the Newcastle network has been a joke for the last 20 years
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Feb 2020
(22 Feb 2020, 7:25 pm)V514DFT And thats good how exactly? So they axed the 15/15A re routed the 32/32A,but no no,that wasnt enough, they then axed the 18 to Forest Hall and Wallsend, replaced it with the 6 and 7 to Forest Hall, a year later decided that wasnt working then the K3 replaced it,that then got axed (yes it was GNE) then Forest Hall lost the link to the Freeman altogether and also lost the link to the Call Centre (yes believe it or not, some people that work there are from Forest Hall) but a couple of months earlier the 1 was extended to the Cobalt, thats just recent examples, the Newcastle network has been a joke for the last 20 years
Tbf it's not just Stagecoach that serves Forest Hall. The whole North Tyneside network is a mess imo. Places like Monkseaton, Backworth, Briardene, Marsden, Preston Village just to name a few would love the links that you have. The West End of Newcastle probably have the best network in the North East though, mostly frequent bus routes which run late in the evening and some of the cheapest fares.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 23 Feb 2020
(07 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm)Michael PB0001987/306 Registered
CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD
Route: Stainton to Nunthorpe
Service number: 19 (19)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Mar 2020
Times and Map of the 19 now showing on Bus Times
https://bustimes.org/services/19-acklam-marton
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 23 Feb 2020
Any more news on the Sunderland service changes for April
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 23 Feb 2020
(23 Feb 2020, 9:28 pm)Acky81 Any more news on the Sunderland service changes for April
No, likely the rest of the changes will be on VOSA tomorrow or the coming days, this is where we can access the CSV sheet, which sometimes tells you the changes.
Other than that, they won't be on the Stagecoach site for a couple of weeks yet.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - GuyParkRoyal - 24 Feb 2020
PB0002404/60 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Downhill to Thorney Close
Service number: 4su (4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised route and timetable to serve Thorney Close.
PB0002404/345 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland Park Lane to Team Valley North End
Service number: 939 (939)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable.
PB0002404/77 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland John Street to Doxford International
Service number: X1 (X1)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable.
PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable operated by South Shields.
PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable operated by South Shields.
PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Brockley Whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised times for am and pm peak services and headway reduced to 12 mins.
PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable to aid reliability.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Ds1197 - 24 Feb 2020
(24 Feb 2020, 11:42 am)GuyParkRoyal PB0002404/60 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Downhill to Thorney Close
Service number: 4su (4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised route and timetable to serve Thorney Close.
PB0002404/345 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland Park Lane to Team Valley North End
Service number: 939 (939)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable.
PB0002404/77 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland John Street to Doxford International
Service number: X1 (X1)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable.
PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable operated by South Shields.
PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable operated by South Shields.
PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Brockley Whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised times for am and pm peak services and headway reduced to 12 mins.
PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
Revised timetable to aid reliability.
Why are the 30 and X20 moving back to south shields
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RBZ 5459 - 24 Feb 2020
(24 Feb 2020, 12:41 pm)Ds1197 Why are the 30 and X20 moving back to south shields
30 and X20 have proven difficult to run from Sunderland. They'll be interworking with the town network.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 25 Feb 2020
PB0001987/227 Registered
CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD
Route: Lazenby to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: 794 (64B)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 Apr 2020
0637 from Lazenby (MF) and 0630 From Grangetown (Sats) to start from Middlesbrough Bus Station Renumbered 64B
PB0002404/20 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Town End Farm, Hylton Castle to Doxford Park, Farringdon
Service number: 313 (12, 13, 3)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
3,12,13.Revised service 3 Timetable and route. Revised timetable service 12 and 13
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 25 Feb 2020
(25 Feb 2020, 9:26 am)Kuyoyo PB0001987/227 Registered
CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD
Route: Lazenby to Middlesbrough Bus Station
Service number: 794 (64B)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 06 Apr 2020
0637 from Lazenby (MF) and 0630 From Grangetown (Sats) to start from Middlesbrough Bus Station Renumbered 64B
PB0002404/20 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Town End Farm, Hylton Castle to Doxford Park, Farringdon
Service number: 313 (12, 13, 3)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
3,12,13.Revised service 3 Timetable and route. Revised timetable service 12 and 13
PB0002404/17 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Red House Estate to Hastings Hill
Service number: 16 (16)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
16 also dropped to every 12 minutes
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 25 Feb 2020
(25 Feb 2020, 11:49 am)Michael PB0002404/17 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Red House Estate to Hastings Hill
Service number: 16 (16)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Apr 2020
16 also dropped to every 12 minutes
wonder what the route change is with the 3
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 25 Feb 2020
Not sure what the route change is to the 3 but hopefully dropping the Gilley Law section to stream line the service so its just Hylton Castle to Farringdon - every 12 minutes.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 25 Feb 2020
(25 Feb 2020, 8:24 pm)Michael Not sure what the route change is to the 3 but hopefully dropping the Gilley Law section to stream line the service so its just Hylton Castle to Farringdon - every 12 minutes.Makes total sense Michael
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Economic505 - 25 Feb 2020
(25 Feb 2020, 11:13 pm)Acky81 Makes total sense MichaelI m new here but thought I would chip in. The 23 goes via Thornholme Rd. Maybe the 3 will replace 23 on this part of route , meaning the 22 and 4 use Durham Rd and Eden Vale??
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 26 Feb 2020
(25 Feb 2020, 11:46 pm)Economic505 I m new here but thought I would chip in. The 23 goes via Thornholme Rd. Maybe the 3 will replace 23 on this part of route , meaning the 22 and 4 use Durham Rd and Eden Vale??Good shout this may well be the case
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 04 Mar 2020
(26 Feb 2020, 12:05 am)Acky81 Good shout this may well be the case
Any updates to the service changes in Sunderland only 1 month to go