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RE: Arriva North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 7:14 am)Roland Pratt Why does your search function only work if four characters long, so can't search for a 3 digit fleet number?
Not unusual for typical bulletin board software.


Re: RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Adrian - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 7:14 am)Roland Pratt Why does your search function only work if four characters long, so can't search for a 3 digit fleet number?
Because of the additional load it can put on SQL (database). It's also why there's a search throttle in place too.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Roland Pratt - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 12:06 pm)aureolin Because of the additional load it can put on SQL (database). It's also why there's a search throttle in place too.

None the wiser!!


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 29 Aug 2014

Roland Pratt Why does your search function only work if four characters long, so can't search for a 3 digit fleet number?
aureolin Because of the additional load it can put on SQL (database). It's also why there's a search throttle in place too.
(29 Aug 2014, 2:04 pm)Roland Pratt None the wiser!!

There are far more three-digit 'words' than four-digit 'words'.

By restricting the number of digits (to four) the 'computer' has fewer operations to make with fewer answers.

If you allowed a search on just one digit you would get a considerable number of answers, most of which would be false.

Two digits eases the situation, and three moreso, and four makes the computational 'load' tolerable.

Edited to add:-

SQL = Structured Query Language (Click) which is a special-purpose programming language designed for managing data held in a relational database management system (which is a table of words that constitute this forum).


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Roland Pratt - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 2:22 pm)G-CPTN There are far more three-digit 'words' than four-digit 'words'.

By restricting the number of digits (to four) the 'computer' has fewer operations to make with fewer answers.

If you allowed a search on just one digit you would get a considerable number of answers, most of which would be false.

Two digits eases the situation, and three moreso, and four makes the computational 'load' tolerable.

Edited to add:-

SQL = Structured Query Language (Click) which is a special-purpose programming language designed for managing data held in a relational database management system (which is a table of words that constitute this forum).


What's a search throttle?!


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 3:30 pm)Roland Pratt What's a search throttle?!
You can only perform a search every 30 seconds.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Dan - 29 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 3:30 pm)Roland Pratt What's a search throttle?!

In short, all of these things are in place to allow this website to run as fast as possible.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Jimmi - 29 Aug 2014

There will be a MAX bus in Blyth Market Place on Monday between 12pm - 1pm.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 29 Aug 2014

Roland Pratt What's a search throttle?!
(29 Aug 2014, 4:35 pm)Dan In short, all of these things are in place to allow this website to run as fast as possible.

[Pedantic]To stop searches bogging down and slowing responses.[/Pedantic]
Cool


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014

(29 Aug 2014, 5:11 pm)Jimmi There will be a MAX bus in Blyth Market Place on Monday between 12pm - 1pm.

On the 308? Big Grin


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Tom - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 10:45 am)aureolin On the 308? Big Grin

MAX buses are never off route though?


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - phillip - 30 Aug 2014

has anymore enviros turned up for x18


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014

I notice there's a new X1 (Boro-Durham) timetable in place for tomorrow. Looks to only be timing changes. Does this still interwork on a Sunday with there now being an hourly service?


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 9:58 pm)aureolin I notice there's a new X1 (Boro-Durham) timetable in place for tomorrow. Looks to only be timing changes. Does this still interwork on a Sunday with there now being an hourly service?

Yes - standard patterns is they depart Boro having come in as a 28B and they then work onto 17s on their return. Weekday changes also see working changes with the early morning Stockton turn that previously ran only as far as Durham and then returned to Middlesbrough working right through to Newcastle.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - tyresmoke - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 9:58 pm)aureolin I notice there's a new X1 (Boro-Durham) timetable in place for tomorrow. Looks to only be timing changes. Does this still interwork on a Sunday with there now being an hourly service?

There's an additional morning Middlesbrough-Framwellgate Moor journey and corresponding return on an afternoon. Also the school holiday gaps have been removed on the X2 (as we lost the schools that it interworked with).
It's been hourly on a Sunday since January.

Might be worth mentioning that our new 85/685 timetable is also introduced tomorrow, with service 185 Carlisle-Haltwhistle being Arrriva operated from Monday also!


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 10:03 pm)tyresmoke There's an additional morning Middlesbrough-Framwellgate Moor journey and corresponding return on an afternoon. Also the school holiday gaps have been removed on the X2 (as we lost the schools that it interworked with).
It's been hourly on a Sunday since January.

AM journey starts in Stockton not Middlesbrough Wink


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 10:02 pm)Kuyoyo Yes - standard patterns is they depart Boro having come in as a 28B and they then work onto 17s on their return. Weekday changes also see working changes with the early morning Stockton turn that previously ran only as far as Durham and then returned to Middlesbrough working right through to Newcastle.

Excellent thanks. Is it still a Pulsar allocation?


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - tyresmoke - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 10:04 pm)aureolin Excellent thanks. Is it still a Pulsar allocation?

Yes from Stockton it will be. The additional journey will also be a Pulsar, the bus will operate service 6 in the middle of the day.


RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Adrian - 30 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 10:06 pm)tyresmoke Yes from Stockton it will be. The additional journey will also be a Pulsar, the bus will operate service 6 in the middle of the day.

Cheers Smile


Re: RE: Arriva North East - Latest - Dan - 31 Aug 2014

(30 Aug 2014, 9:29 pm)phillip has anymore enviros turned up for x18
Yes, the fifth and final one has now arrived. A complete set of registrations are given below:

NK64 EFM
NK64 EER
NK64 EES
NK64 EET
NK64 EEU

None have arrived with fleet numbers applied, but it's more than likely that the fleet numbers will match up with the order of the registrations shown above.