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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2014

 
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Jimmi



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01 Aug 2014, 8:27 am #1
(31 Jul 2014, 11:20 pm)Stuart Phin With you saying that I have heard rumours that 3 gas buses are going on the 8/8a was told by a driver that works at darlo

You can't believe everything drivers tell you, one driver said last year that service 7 was getting double deckers, which of course we knew wasn't the case.

They could be going on the 8/8A but then again they could go on the 21 or something else, we'll just have to wait and see.
Jimmi
01 Aug 2014, 8:27 am #1

(31 Jul 2014, 11:20 pm)Stuart Phin With you saying that I have heard rumours that 3 gas buses are going on the 8/8a was told by a driver that works at darlo

You can't believe everything drivers tell you, one driver said last year that service 7 was getting double deckers, which of course we knew wasn't the case.

They could be going on the 8/8A but then again they could go on the 21 or something else, we'll just have to wait and see.

L469 YVK



3,544
01 Aug 2014, 8:29 am #2
(31 Jul 2014, 8:20 pm)Jimmi I had 7456 on the X21 between Ashington and Newcastle and it was brilliant.

They're brilliant motors and got a real kick like the Palatines! The Voith gearbox is the only drawback though for long distance work but the engine makes up for that. Shame Darwen went bust like becuase they are great buses.
L469 YVK
01 Aug 2014, 8:29 am #2

(31 Jul 2014, 8:20 pm)Jimmi I had 7456 on the X21 between Ashington and Newcastle and it was brilliant.

They're brilliant motors and got a real kick like the Palatines! The Voith gearbox is the only drawback though for long distance work but the engine makes up for that. Shame Darwen went bust like becuase they are great buses.

L469 YVK



3,544
01 Aug 2014, 8:31 am #3
(31 Jul 2014, 8:15 pm)Kuyoyo 7453-6 are going to Durham as part of the standardisation (given Durham will also have 7436-40 from Ashington)


They could transfer from there to Whitby during the summer when the PVR goes upto 8.
L469 YVK
01 Aug 2014, 8:31 am #3

(31 Jul 2014, 8:15 pm)Kuyoyo 7453-6 are going to Durham as part of the standardisation (given Durham will also have 7436-40 from Ashington)


They could transfer from there to Whitby during the summer when the PVR goes upto 8.

Kuyoyo



6,849
01 Aug 2014, 11:19 am #4
(01 Aug 2014, 8:29 am)DaveyBowyer They're brilliant motors and got a real kick like the Palatines! The Voith gearbox is the only drawback though for long distance work but the engine makes up for that. Shame Darwen went bust like becuase they are great buses.

Erm, Darwen (East Lancs, now part of Optare) only built the bodywork. The chassis is a VDL (DAF) construction.

(01 Aug 2014, 8:31 am)DaveyBowyer They could transfer from there to Whitby during the summer when the PVR goes upto 8.

When the summer timetable starts at Spring Bank Holidays, and Durham will need all the deckers for schools still, I doubt it.
Kuyoyo
01 Aug 2014, 11:19 am #4

(01 Aug 2014, 8:29 am)DaveyBowyer They're brilliant motors and got a real kick like the Palatines! The Voith gearbox is the only drawback though for long distance work but the engine makes up for that. Shame Darwen went bust like becuase they are great buses.

Erm, Darwen (East Lancs, now part of Optare) only built the bodywork. The chassis is a VDL (DAF) construction.

(01 Aug 2014, 8:31 am)DaveyBowyer They could transfer from there to Whitby during the summer when the PVR goes upto 8.

When the summer timetable starts at Spring Bank Holidays, and Durham will need all the deckers for schools still, I doubt it.

Dan

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18,099
01 Aug 2014, 11:36 am #5
(01 Aug 2014, 11:19 am)Kuyoyo When the summer timetable starts at Spring Bank Holidays, and Durham will need all the deckers for schools still, I doubt it.

They're putting those Lowlanders on schools? What a waste!
Dan
01 Aug 2014, 11:36 am #5

(01 Aug 2014, 11:19 am)Kuyoyo When the summer timetable starts at Spring Bank Holidays, and Durham will need all the deckers for schools still, I doubt it.

They're putting those Lowlanders on schools? What a waste!

Kuyoyo



6,849
01 Aug 2014, 11:43 am #6
(01 Aug 2014, 11:36 am)Dan They're putting those Lowlanders on schools? What a waste!

No, likely be going on 46/48 as that is said to be going entirely double deckers. The older Lowlanders are more likely for school work - still would leave Durham short if 7453-6 were to head to Redcar/Whitby in May 2015 when the summer X93 timetable comes into effect.
Kuyoyo
01 Aug 2014, 11:43 am #6

(01 Aug 2014, 11:36 am)Dan They're putting those Lowlanders on schools? What a waste!

No, likely be going on 46/48 as that is said to be going entirely double deckers. The older Lowlanders are more likely for school work - still would leave Durham short if 7453-6 were to head to Redcar/Whitby in May 2015 when the summer X93 timetable comes into effect.

Dan

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18,099
01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am #7
(01 Aug 2014, 11:43 am)Kuyoyo No, likely be going on 46/48 as that is said to be going entirely double deckers. The older Lowlanders are more likely for school work - still would leave Durham short if 7453-6 were to head to Redcar/Whitby in May 2015 when the summer X93 timetable comes into effect.

Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...
Dan
01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am #7

(01 Aug 2014, 11:43 am)Kuyoyo No, likely be going on 46/48 as that is said to be going entirely double deckers. The older Lowlanders are more likely for school work - still would leave Durham short if 7453-6 were to head to Redcar/Whitby in May 2015 when the summer X93 timetable comes into effect.

Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...

L469 YVK



3,544
01 Aug 2014, 11:59 am #8
(01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am)Dan Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...

7445 and 7446 wouldn't be bad. They're in good nick for their age.
L469 YVK
01 Aug 2014, 11:59 am #8

(01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am)Dan Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...

7445 and 7446 wouldn't be bad. They're in good nick for their age.

Kuyoyo



6,849
01 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm #9
(01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am)Dan Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...

Going on this summer's track record, Redcar/Whitby are going to need more than 2 extra deckers for the summer 2015 season.......

(01 Aug 2014, 11:59 am)DaveyBowyer 7445 and 7446 wouldn't be bad. They're in good nick for their age.

And then you're leaving Jesmond short, especially when 7445/6 are required for specific 43/44/45 running boards.
Kuyoyo
01 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm #9

(01 Aug 2014, 11:46 am)Dan Not as bad then.

Surely any depot is going to be short, if they're giving away two buses to Redcar/Whitby for the summer X93 timetable?

I can only assume that the Volvo B7TLs will end up transferring there instead - leaving Ashington short? If that were the case, and if the Lowlanders are superior to the Volvo B7TLs, I don't see why two Volvo B7TLs couldn't go to Belmont, releasing two Lowlanders...

Going on this summer's track record, Redcar/Whitby are going to need more than 2 extra deckers for the summer 2015 season.......

(01 Aug 2014, 11:59 am)DaveyBowyer 7445 and 7446 wouldn't be bad. They're in good nick for their age.

And then you're leaving Jesmond short, especially when 7445/6 are required for specific 43/44/45 running boards.

mb134



4,131
01 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm #10
Do Ashington actually have any single deckers left to operate their boards that single deckers are down for?
mb134
01 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm #10

Do Ashington actually have any single deckers left to operate their boards that single deckers are down for?

Dan

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18,099
01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm #11
(01 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm)Kuyoyo Going on this summer's track record, Redcar/Whitby are going to need more than 2 extra deckers for the summer 2015 season.......

So either way, some depots are going to lose out to allow more resources to be pumped into the X93... It goes back to what was said originally, about the fact only six Volvo B9TLs were purchased...
Dan
01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm #11

(01 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm)Kuyoyo Going on this summer's track record, Redcar/Whitby are going to need more than 2 extra deckers for the summer 2015 season.......

So either way, some depots are going to lose out to allow more resources to be pumped into the X93... It goes back to what was said originally, about the fact only six Volvo B9TLs were purchased...

Kuyoyo



6,849
01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm #12
(01 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm)mb134 Do Ashington actually have any single deckers left to operate their boards that single deckers are down for?

Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.
Kuyoyo
01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm #12

(01 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm)mb134 Do Ashington actually have any single deckers left to operate their boards that single deckers are down for?

Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.

tyresmoke



5,303
01 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm #13
(01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm)Kuyoyo Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.

Actually the 35 should get 6 deckers for the time being until the Streetlites arrive

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tyresmoke
01 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm #13

(01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm)Kuyoyo Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.

Actually the 35 should get 6 deckers for the time being until the Streetlites arrive


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Philly rf



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01 Aug 2014, 12:30 pm #14
(01 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm)tyresmoke Actually the 35 should get 6 deckers for the time being until the Streetlites arrive
I was talking to one of the staff at hey sham docks and they said that the streetlite are due to be sent to jesmond depot for 15th august and then they should be sent to ashington about 1st september
Philly rf
01 Aug 2014, 12:30 pm #14

(01 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm)tyresmoke Actually the 35 should get 6 deckers for the time being until the Streetlites arrive
I was talking to one of the staff at hey sham docks and they said that the streetlite are due to be sent to jesmond depot for 15th august and then they should be sent to ashington about 1st september

Kuyoyo



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01 Aug 2014, 12:33 pm #15
(01 Aug 2014, 12:30 pm)Philly rf I was talking to one of the staff at hey sham docks and they said that the streetlite are due to be sent to jesmond depot for 15th august and then they should be sent to ashington about 1st september

They'll likely be the rest of Redcar batch - I believe Ashington's are due late September.
Kuyoyo
01 Aug 2014, 12:33 pm #15

(01 Aug 2014, 12:30 pm)Philly rf I was talking to one of the staff at hey sham docks and they said that the streetlite are due to be sent to jesmond depot for 15th august and then they should be sent to ashington about 1st september

They'll likely be the rest of Redcar batch - I believe Ashington's are due late September.

tyresmoke



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01 Aug 2014, 12:35 pm #16
(31 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm)tyresmoke Yes the Scanias will be moving away from Durham upon receipt of the Pulsars from Darlington in November. Obviously 4663 has already gone (now at Jesmond) replaced temporarily by an MPD from Yorkshire. There may be a chance that other short term replacements may be sourced to free up the Scanias earlier than that, in order to speed up the refurbishment program, just like they are doing at present.

Glad to report that the 21 will be gaining bigger vehicles soon!

The Streetlites for the 35, 306 and 23 are all due around the end of September, around the same time.

As I posted yesterday...

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tyresmoke
01 Aug 2014, 12:35 pm #16

(31 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm)tyresmoke Yes the Scanias will be moving away from Durham upon receipt of the Pulsars from Darlington in November. Obviously 4663 has already gone (now at Jesmond) replaced temporarily by an MPD from Yorkshire. There may be a chance that other short term replacements may be sourced to free up the Scanias earlier than that, in order to speed up the refurbishment program, just like they are doing at present.

Glad to report that the 21 will be gaining bigger vehicles soon!

The Streetlites for the 35, 306 and 23 are all due around the end of September, around the same time.

As I posted yesterday...


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Jimmi



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01 Aug 2014, 12:41 pm #17
Disruptions due to Stockton International Riverside Festival this weekend:
http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/content.aspx?id=34359743374
Jimmi
01 Aug 2014, 12:41 pm #17

Disruptions due to Stockton International Riverside Festival this weekend:
http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/content.aspx?id=34359743374

mb134



4,131
01 Aug 2014, 12:43 pm #18
(01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm)Kuyoyo Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.
Is it not more expensive to run double deckers compared to single deckers? If so credit to Arriva, not always trying to make as much money as they can Wink
Edited 01 Aug 2014, 12:44 pm by mb134.
mb134
01 Aug 2014, 12:43 pm #18

(01 Aug 2014, 12:24 pm)Kuyoyo Only have MPDs - there's now of course only 3 Single decker boards (on the 35/35a) as the X14/14 board will now likely be allocated a double decker likewise the 2 X21/X22 are now E400s.
Is it not more expensive to run double deckers compared to single deckers? If so credit to Arriva, not always trying to make as much money as they can Wink

cbma06



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01 Aug 2014, 6:15 pm #19
Just noticed this on Arriva timeline:

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/




Win a year's FREE bus travel when you play the Arriva Bus Game Ever fancied running your own bus depot? Go on, give it a go! You’ll face many challenges including traffic issues, breakdowns, re-routing – so see if you can keep the buses running on time. As you play, you can pick up some great prizes including a year’s FREE travel, 4 monthly passes, 4 weekly passes, 10 day passes and 10 Love2shop vouchers. Add this to some of our great DAYS OUT offers and summer is going to be fun and games this year. - See more at: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/#...7WDZr.dpuf

supposed to be a mobile app for this game some time next week.
Edited 01 Aug 2014, 6:17 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
01 Aug 2014, 6:15 pm #19

Just noticed this on Arriva timeline:

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/




Win a year's FREE bus travel when you play the Arriva Bus Game Ever fancied running your own bus depot? Go on, give it a go! You’ll face many challenges including traffic issues, breakdowns, re-routing – so see if you can keep the buses running on time. As you play, you can pick up some great prizes including a year’s FREE travel, 4 monthly passes, 4 weekly passes, 10 day passes and 10 Love2shop vouchers. Add this to some of our great DAYS OUT offers and summer is going to be fun and games this year. - See more at: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/#...7WDZr.dpuf

supposed to be a mobile app for this game some time next week.



Dan

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01 Aug 2014, 6:16 pm #20
(01 Aug 2014, 6:15 pm)cbma06 Just noticed this on Arriva timeline:

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/




Win a year's FREE bus travel when you play the Arriva Bus Game Ever fancied running your own bus depot? Go on, give it a go! You’ll face many challenges including traffic issues, breakdowns, re-routing – so see if you can keep the buses running on time. As you play, you can pick up some great prizes including a year’s FREE travel, 4 monthly passes, 4 weekly passes, 10 day passes and 10 Love2shop vouchers. Add this to some of our great DAYS OUT offers and summer is going to be fun and games this year. - See more at: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/#...7WDZr.dpuf
Got to Level 5 and got bored. You can't actually get your third bus to go out because it doesn't let you scroll down.
Dan
01 Aug 2014, 6:16 pm #20

(01 Aug 2014, 6:15 pm)cbma06 Just noticed this on Arriva timeline:

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/




Win a year's FREE bus travel when you play the Arriva Bus Game Ever fancied running your own bus depot? Go on, give it a go! You’ll face many challenges including traffic issues, breakdowns, re-routing – so see if you can keep the buses running on time. As you play, you can pick up some great prizes including a year’s FREE travel, 4 monthly passes, 4 weekly passes, 10 day passes and 10 Love2shop vouchers. Add this to some of our great DAYS OUT offers and summer is going to be fun and games this year. - See more at: http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/summer-2014/#...7WDZr.dpuf
Got to Level 5 and got bored. You can't actually get your third bus to go out because it doesn't let you scroll down.

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