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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - JP6004 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 9:59 am)Andreos1 The 239 and the 4 on a night operate on a combined 30 min frequency on a night from Houghton to Fencehouses Railway Crossing.Services being reduced further from Feb. 921/922 to be merged. Only 2 services per day. One to rainton, 1 going back to newcastle
Obviously the 4 continues towards Washington, whilst the 239 heads through Avenue Vivienne covering for the lack of a night time service on the 36.
On the return leg towards Houghton, the two services follow each other from Edinburgh bakery.
Not a bad little frequency at that time of night - two services 30 seconds apart.
Ideal if you miss one as the other isn't far behind.
Given the scope in timetables and lack of provision at Rainton Bridge on a night (despite people working down there and there being events on at the grandly named Rainton Meadows Arena), I wonder if it would be worth sending one of the services down there on a night and on into Houghton via the A690.
There shouldn't be too much difference in mileage.
The timetable is slack anyway (particularly the 4) and there is the potential to pick up a few more passengers. Rather than have one service shadow the other for a few miles.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - L469 YVK - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 1:33 pm)JP6004 Services being reduced further from Feb. 921/922 to be merged. Only 2 services per day. One to rainton, 1 going back to newcastle
Sounds about right given the type of service.
Haven't done the calculations yet but if 6001 and 6004 have just been done, I wonder whether or not the X1 will be reduced to every 12 minutes rather than every 10 minutes in conjunction with the above changes.
Are all of the 11 plate batch (and perhaps the 12/62 plate batch) due to be done in whatever colour?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - JP6004 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:05 pm)DaveyBowyer Sounds about right given the type of service.
Haven't done the calculations yet but if 6001 and 6004 have just been done, I wonder whether or not the X1 will be reduced to every 12 minutes rather than every 10 minutes in conjunction with the above changes.
Are all of the 11 plate batch (and perhaps the 12/62 plate batch) due to be done in whatever colour?
The demand for the services warrant more than 1 bus per day, as other companies at Rainton use the service as well as general public. I don't think the repaints/ possible reduction in frequency is due to this decision as it was only made on 30th November
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:05 pm)DaveyBowyer Sounds about right given the type of service.
Haven't done the calculations yet but if 6001 and 6004 have just been done, I wonder whether or not the X1 will be reduced to every 12 minutes rather than every 10 minutes in conjunction with the above changes.
Are all of the 11 plate batch (and perhaps the 12/62 plate batch) due to be done in whatever colour?
If that was the case then why was 6004 done and not 3943... as its the spare, the Red Arrows would of had a spare B9, not a B7.
The X1 is one of their busiest services, not sure dropping it to every 12 minutes is a good idea... although its only a 2 minute difference for people to wait.... the ques are sometimes ridiculous for it.
All of 6001-6007 will go back to Red Arrows once all of them have been repainted.... as for 6049-6055 they might be done after the new year.
PVR if dropped to every 12 minutes will be 11 but i would imagine they would do it like the 56 and have a extra bus in the PVR, so it will be 12.
(02 Dec 2015, 1:33 pm)JP6004 Services being reduced further from Feb. 921/922 to be merged. Only 2 services per day. One to rainton, 1 going back to newcastle
Which others services will be reduced from Feb?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 1:33 pm)JP6004 Services being reduced further from Feb. 921/922 to be merged. Only 2 services per day. One to rainton, 1 going back to newcastle
I've noticed more and more people seemingly getting off a bus (a 4 or 36) on Front Street and walking around the corner, changing on to a 20a or 38.
No idea if the pattern is repeated at the end of a shift.
I can only assume existing services suit workers, rather than the dedicated services.
Isn't there also supposed to be a car park extension at Rainton Bridge? Sure I have heard that somewhere.
Any idea why they're doing it, if demand warrants more than one bus a day?
The amount of light running is going to increase on the X1 and 4 too, due to them running on and off the 921 and 922.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Dan - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:23 pm)Michael Which others services will be reduced from Feb?
I believe the npower shuttle service will be withdrawn from the same date.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:33 pm)Dan I believe the npower shuttle service will be withdrawn from the same date.
Thanks Dan, =)
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - JP6004 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:33 pm)Dan I believe the npower shuttle service will be withdrawn from the same date.
The car park is due to be completed in January, however no work has started yet. But it will be withdrawn once completed.
The 923 is also reduced to the same frequency. The reason for the cut is to save costs
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - JP6004 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:26 pm)Andreos1 I've noticed more and more people seemingly getting off a bus (a 4 or 36) on Front Street and walking around the corner, changing on to a 20a or 38.
No idea if the pattern is repeated at the end of a shift.
I can only assume existing services suit workers, rather than the dedicated services.
Isn't there also supposed to be a car park extension at Rainton Bridge? Sure I have heard that somewhere.
Any idea why they're doing it, if demand warrants more than one bus a day?
The amount of light running is going to increase on the X1 and 4 too, due to them running on and off the 921 and 922.
The increase will be due to people working weird shifts - 11-7, 4-8 etc as there is no dedicated services at non-peak times; staff have to find alternative travel. there was a 921 at 3:15pm from NCL - Rainton however this was withdrawn quite quickly.
However I do not understand the withdrawal of the 4:15pm bus as thats when the majority of 8am starters will finish. So they have a bus to work, but not back...
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:53 pm)JP6004 The increase will be due to people working weird shifts - 11-7, 4-8 etc as there is no dedicated services at non-peak times; staff have to find alternative travel. there was a 921 at 3:15pm from NCL - Rainton however this was withdrawn quite quickly.
However I do not understand the withdrawal of the 4:15pm bus as thats when the majority of 8am starters will finish. So they have a bus to work, but not back...
Seeing as services on the 4 start rolling on to the 922, not too long after then (and reducing the frequency of northbound 4's in turn), I wonder whether there will be a knock on effect?
Workers finish work, can't get a 921 or 922 and see services in the locality lacking too...
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - DanPicken - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 5:33 pm)Dan I believe the npower shuttle service will be withdrawn from the same date.
How often does this run?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - JP6004 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 7:17 pm)Andreos1 Seeing as services on the 4 start rolling on to the 922, not too long after then (and reducing the frequency of northbound 4's in turn), I wonder whether there will be a knock on effect?
Workers finish work, can't get a 921 or 922 and see services in the locality lacking too...
Well when the 6pm 922 was withdrawn the 4 leaving Houghton at 6pm was extended to heworth instead of terminating at concord. Hopefully the withdrawal of the 921 's on an evening will see an increase on the X1 between 6-7pm
(02 Dec 2015, 7:23 pm)DanPicken How often does this run?
During peak times every 10 mins. Every 15mins off peak
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 7:23 pm)DanPicken How often does this run?
All day Mon - Fri. Each trip is only a few mins in either direction.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - DanPicken - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 7:25 pm)JP6004 Well when the 6pm 922 was withdrawn the 4 leaving Houghton at 6pm was extended to heworth instead of terminating at concord. Hopefully the withdrawal of the 921 's on an evening will see an increase on the X1 between 6-7pm
During peak times every 10 mins. Every 15mins off peak
(02 Dec 2015, 7:28 pm)Andreos1 All day Mon - Fri. Each trip is only a few mins in either direction.
Thanks both.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 02 Dec 2015
(02 Dec 2015, 7:25 pm)JP6004 Well when the 6pm 922 was withdrawn the 4 leaving Houghton at 6pm was extended to heworth instead of terminating at concord. Hopefully the withdrawal of the 921 's on an evening will see an increase on the X1 between 6-7pm
During peak times every 10 mins. Every 15mins off peak
Looking at the timetables, someone finishing at 1615 and needing to head north, will now need to head to Houghton.
The 35 from Rainton Bridge is at 1623.
The 38 is at 1626
The X20 is at 1633.
They have the choice of an X1 at 1625, 1635, 1645 and 1653. The first is definitely out of the question.
There is a 4 at 1628, 1643 and 1658. Realistically, the 1628 is a no go as the 35 isn't due in until 1629.
So in reality, the earliest people can expect to get away from Houghton - is just under 30 mins after finishing work. If all services are running to time.
Hopefully the rest of the journey isn't too bad and they manage to get connections at the other end.
With regard to those finishing after 2000. I hope they have a car! Genuinely sympathise with them if relying on public transport.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 20 Dec 2015
1 - Will additionally serve Edward Street/St Peters Road in place of Service 17/17A, Frequency remains the same.
17/17A - West Monkseaton - Whitley Bay - Preston North Road - North Shields - Hawkeys Lane - Billy Mill - North Tyneside Hospital - New York - Cobalt - Howden - Wallsend
Every 20 Minutes - Merging of Services 17/17A/80/W1 & W1A
19A - Cramlington - Camperdown - Killingworth - Benton - Benton Asda - Holystone - West Allotment - Cobalt - Silverlink - Percy Main - Meadow Well - North Shields
Every 30 Minutes - Merging of Services 17/17A & 19
40/41 - Wallsend - Hadrian Road - Howden - Rosehill - Percy Main - Hadrian Park - Battle Hill Drive - High Farm - Station Road - Wallsend
Every 15 Minutes - Additionally serving St Peters Road/Edward Street & Percy Main in place of Services 17 & 17A
AirportLink 326 - Newcastle Central Station - Newcastle International Airport
Every 10 Minutes (24/7) - Journey Time quicker than the Metro
(Fares Prices) - Cheaper than the Metro
Adult Single - £3.50
Child Single - £1.50
Adult Return - £5.00
Child Return - £2.80
Adult Day - £6.20
Child Day - £4.10
*Get Around & Buzzfare Tickets are also Valid*
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - citaro5284 - 20 Dec 2015
(20 Dec 2015, 8:44 pm)Malarkey 1 - Will additionally serve Edward Street/St Peters Road in place of Service 17/17A, Frequency remains the same.
17/17A - West Monkseaton - Whitley Bay - Preston North Road - North Shields - Hawkeys Lane - Billy Mill - North Tyneside Hospital - New York - Cobalt - Howden - Wallsend
Every 20 Minutes - Merging of Services 17/17A/80/W1 & W1A
19A - Cramlington - Camperdown - Killingworth - Benton - Benton Asda - Holystone - West Allotment - Cobalt - Silverlink - Percy Main - Meadow Well - North Shields
Every 30 Minutes - Merging of Services 17/17A & 19
40/41 - Wallsend - Hadrian Road - Howden - Rosehill - Percy Main - Hadrian Park - Battle Hill Drive - High Farm - Station Road - Wallsend
Every 15 Minutes - Additionally serving St Peters Road/Edward Street & Percy Main in place of Services 17 & 17A
AirportLink 326 - Newcastle Central Station - Newcastle International Airport
Every 10 Minutes (24/7) - Journey Time quicker than the Metro
(Fares Prices) - Cheaper than the Metro
Adult Single - £3.50
Child Single - £1.50
Adult Return - £5.00
Child Return - £2.80
Adult Day - £6.20
Child Day - £4.10
*Get Around & Buzzfare Tickets are also Valid*
Have you being on the sherberts tonight Adam....
How do you get from ASDA to the estate where the Powder Monkey is?
Does Newcastle Airport warrant a 10 min frequency throughout the night?
Service 1 is long enough to start with....haha!
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 20 Dec 2015
(20 Dec 2015, 9:31 pm)citaro5284 Have you being on the sherberts tonight Adam....
How do you get from ASDA to the estate where the Powder Monkey is?
Does Newcastle Airport warrant a 10 min frequency throughout the night?
Service 1 is long enough to start with....haha!
No Skittles, the taste of the Rainbow must of done something to me.
No idea, I used the North Tyneside Network Map on Simplygo.com - #UsingResourcesWhichTurnOutToBeNotMuchUse
In relation the 326, I dont know, get one of you colleagues to stand at the Airport with a clip board and a tally chart, and find out.
Service 1 is only a minor adjustment
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - dannygee - 20 Dec 2015
Instead of 17 going through holy cross get the 40/41 to as mentioned above and leave the 1 on normal route
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - citaro5284 - 21 Dec 2015
(20 Dec 2015, 10:59 pm)Malarkey No Skittles, the taste of the Rainbow must of done something to me.
No idea, I used the North Tyneside Network Map on Simplygo.com - #UsingResourcesWhichTurnOutToBeNotMuchUse
In relation the 326, I dont know, get one of you colleagues to stand at the Airport with a clip board and a tally chart, and find out.
Service 1 is only a minor adjustment
Even better than all the above........just forget about them
