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Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - R852 PRG - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:20 pm)Jackamcardle Anyway, moving onto the limes, do you think that they will still keep it as the bike bus, or will they scrap that?
(24 Feb 2015, 9:21 pm)Michael I think they will scrap it, i don't think anyone used it when all the B10's were on the lime.
Agree with Michael. I've used the Lime hundreds (possibly thousands!
) of times over the years of the brand's existence and not once seen a person with a bike on!
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:20 pm)Jackamcardle Anyway, moving onto the limes, do you think that they will still keep it as the bike bus, or will they scrap that?
I think it'll be scrapped.
I've never seen a bike on-board the Lime, and the scheme has arguably been made redundant since the withdrawal of the first few "Lime" branded vehicles (4850 - 4852) and the repainting of 4896 - 4902 into corporate livery anyway. Stanley sees 4897 - 4902 as red Volvo B10BLEs rather than 'bike buses': other red Volvo B10BLEs end up being allocated to the 8/78 while the former "Lime" branded vehicles are allocated elsewhere.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jackamcardle - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:21 pm)Michael I think they will scrap it, i don't think anyone used it when all the B10's were on the lime.
I thought they would maybe switch them onto the red kite, because there are a few good cycle locations along there eg. Winlaton Mill, Rowlands Gill, Hamsterly Mill, Swalwell
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 24 Feb 2015
Are Wrights only doing the Micro-hybrid of the Streetlite now?
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - R852 PRG - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:07 pm)aureolin He'll blank you if he sees you in a bus station though...
Dan Mk2.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:26 pm)Michael Are Wrights only doing the Micro-hybrid of the Streetlite now?
Wrightbus offer the Streetlite Max with and without Micro-Hybrid technology.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:28 pm)Dan Wrightbus offer the Streetlite Max with and without Micro-Hybrid technology.
That's good
It looks like it will be the Streetlite Max on the X66, Lime and Red Kite.
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Now we have to guess what else is on order...
Citaro all you need to do now is to say if the red arrows are getting new buses, that'll make Davey's day
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Tom - 24 Feb 2015
New buses for a Percy Main route hopefully. Possibly Solos for the North Tyne Links.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:29 pm)Michael That's good
It looks like it will be the Streetlite Max on the X66, Lime and Red Kite.
The Streetlite Max Micro-Hybrid offers a 10% fuel consumption saving compared to its standard equivalent and operators can claim an additional fuel subsidy* of 6p/kilometre, so it's obvious that it'll definitely be a contender... Providing they're set up correctly (like Arriva NE's examples on their Teesside "Sapphire" routes), there's no reason why they can't manage to get up steep hills at 30mph.
* Andreos may wish to substitute this word for 'handout'
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jackamcardle - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:31 pm)Tom New buses for a Percy Main route hopefully. Possibly Solos for the North Tyne Links.
Solos will look great on the North Tyne links!
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Tom - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:36 pm)Jackamcardle Solos will look great on the North Tyne links!
Totally agree!
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - R852 PRG - 24 Feb 2015
After thinking it over, here is the Official Marcus Green Prediction...
Late March: Streetlites arrive for the X66, a few older vehicles withdrawn from service. Namely a few older B10BLEs in the fleet, while the youngest B10BLEs at Riverside take their place at their respective depots.
Mid April: 15 Streetlites arrive for the Lime, 4853/4/5 (by now possibly withdrawn with the younger B10BLEs taking their place at CLS following arrival of X66 Streetlites) definitely withdrawn by this point. 4896 withdrawn too, whilst the 3 in the former X7 batch (4906/8/9) are displaced elsewhere (with the 7 PVR of Chester-le-Street's Lime runs being filled by the new Streetlites and no need for a spare B10BLE, with the spare Streetlite confirmed). 6 B10BLEs at Stanley either directly withdrawn (probably 4897-4902, technically oldest after 4853-55 and 96) or relocated to other depots where gaps need to be filled.
Mid May: 10 Streetlites arrive for Red Kite. 9 branded and 1 spare. 9 Red Kite-branded OmniCities (5234 - 5243) taken away from Stanley and 8 allocated to Toon Link (or whatever it was we were discussing haha) and 1 to Percy Main as a spare. 8 B10BLEs from the Toon Link services directly withdrawn as a result.
My prediction.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Tom - 24 Feb 2015
I reckon an additional Citaro would be nice at Deptford, possibly 5332, as a spare for the 35/36 and 61.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:31 pm)Tom New buses for a Percy Main route hopefully. Possibly Solos for the North Tyne Links.
I think the rest of the orders will be Deckers.
Double Decker routes (NOT Confirmed) - 21 - buses - Style of bus not confirmed.
Crusader - 13 (+1 spare)
Pronto - 6 (+1 spare)
Single Decker routes = 31 buses (including spares) - Streetlites - Confirmed!
Red Kite - 9 (+1 spare)
X66 - 5 (+1 spare)
Lime - 13 (+2 spare)
Total 52 buses
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Malarkey - 24 Feb 2015
Quite surprised nobody has said anything about Deckers being on Order for the 47, looks like everyone has taken the whole Omnicity/B7RLE Split Allocation as being gospel.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - citaro5284 - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:45 pm)Malarkey Quite surprised nobody has said anything about Deckers being on Order for the 47, looks like everyone has taken the whole Omnicity/B7RLE Split Allocation as being gospel.
Is there any deckers on order for the 47?
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:39 pm)Tom I reckon an additional Citaro would be nice at Deptford, possibly 5332, as a spare for the 35/36 and 61.
PVR 27: 13
PVR 49/49B: 10
Total PVR: 23
PVR 35/36: 15
PVR 61: 5
Total PVR: 20
I think Riverside will keep 5332 as a spare vehicle for their Mercedes Citaro routes, given that they have the higher PVR.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Tom - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:44 pm)Michael I think the rest of the orders will be Deckers.
Double Decker routes (NOT Confirmed) - 22 - buses - Style of bus not confirmed.
Crusader - 13 (+1 spare)
Pronto - 6 (+1 spare)
Single Decker routes = 31 buses (including spares) - Streetlites - Confirmed!
Red Kite - 9 (+1 spare)
X66 - 5 (+1 spare)
Lime - 13 (+2 spare)
Total 53 buses
If the Crusader does get new buses, maybe the Citaros could go to the 9/17, displacing all of the Renowns at Percy Main for withdrawal?
Omnicties would move to a spare role.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Malarkey - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:46 pm)citaro5284 Is there any deckers on order for the 47?Dunno there could be, who knows.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jackamcardle - 24 Feb 2015
(24 Feb 2015, 9:44 pm)Michael I think the rest of the orders will be Deckers.Do you think the Crusader needs double decker, i was on it at a 'peak' time recently and it filled up but didn't overcrowd, also, they are very frequent!
Double Decker routes (NOT Confirmed) - 22 - buses - Style of bus not confirmed.
Crusader - 13 (+1 spare)
Pronto - 6 (+1 spare)
Single Decker routes = 31 buses (including spares) - Streetlites - Confirmed!
Red Kite - 9 (+1 spare)
X66 - 5 (+1 spare)
Lime - 13 (+2 spare)
Total 53 buses