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RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Malarkey - 13 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm)Dan There was more Volvo B9TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 vehicles in dealer stock than had been suggested on this forum previously... Arriva North East didn't purchase the final examples, after all.
Will these B9TLs be Refurbished to Go North East Standard, or will they come as they are from Dealer Stock, As the Seats on the ones going to PrestonBus dont look very Comfortable.
BJ15 TWK
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pityarder/16517632583/
As for the B&H Omnidekkas coming to Go North East, looks like the Examples that were on the 12 which now has StreetDecks have cascaded onto other B&H Services, thus Displacing Dennis Trident/Plaxton President for Disposal, could Go North East be getting these instead as a Temporary Stop Gap.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97433185@N06/16949349828/
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - L469 YVK - 13 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:06 pm)Jimmi People are probably going to dismiss this as rubbish but part of me is thinking that the Red Arrows B9s could potentially go on the X21 and some other services next year and the X1 could maybe get new stock next year as don't GNE usually like to repaint their buses every 5 years which is how old the older examples will be next year, also does the X21 really justify brand new double deckers when on evenings and Sunday's the X21 interworks with the 21 using the Angel Hybrids. With the DDA deadline approaching GNE will probably have to find some double deckers from somewhere as I can't see the likes of the 14/X22, X25 and short 9s really justifying brand new double deckers. There may be more cascades coming before the end of 2016 but there may not, we'll just have to wait and see.
And now everyone probably thinks I've gone mad again.
I totally agree with you. Also, how come GNE have tested a Volvo B5TL on the 47 yet, went ahead and got B9TLs instead?
I think that it'll be down to these things:
- Power
- Fleet commonality
- Familiarity
- Lower cost
- Proven technology
After this, I think GNE will move over to the E400 MMC bodywork with either the Cummins / ADL Chassis or Scania N230UD chassis. I think bar the TTX, the integral E400 MMC could probably just about cope with anything if GNE looked after them.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 13 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:45 pm)Malarkey Will these B9TLs be Refurbished to Go North East Standard, or will they come as they are from Dealer Stock, As the Seats on the ones going to PrestonBus dont look very Comfortable.
BJ15 TWK
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pityarder/16517632583/
As for the B&H Omnidekkas coming to Go North East, looks like the Examples that were on the 12 which now has StreetDecks have cascaded onto other B&H Services, thus Displacing Dennis Trident/Plaxton President for Disposal, could Go North East be getting these instead as a Temporary Stop Gap.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97433185@N06/16949349828/
The reg will be interesting.
No idea if they have been registered already or if they will end up with up to date plates.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 14 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:45 pm)Malarkey Will these B9TLs be Refurbished to Go North East Standard, or will they come as they are from Dealer Stock, As the Seats on the ones going to PrestonBus dont look very Comfortable.
BJ15 TWK
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pityarder/16517632583/
As for the B&H Omnidekkas coming to Go North East, looks like the Examples that were on the 12 which now has StreetDecks have cascaded onto other B&H Services, thus Displacing Dennis Trident/Plaxton President for Disposal, could Go North East be getting these instead as a Temporary Stop Gap.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97433185@N06/16949349828/
I would think they would be, probables be a few month before they enter service after arriving, Thornton's will probables do the refurbishments and all the routes based at the depot's will have to be installed.
I don't think the Omnidekka's will be though.
As for the tridents, not sure... i hope were just gonna get the Omnidekka's.... also if they end up on the X21.... they should re-launch the route as a new brand.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 14 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 9:32 pm)Andreos1 The reg will be interesting.
No idea if they have been registered already or if they will end up with up to date plates.
They'll probables keep the same ones, i think the Vyking's did when they arrived from London?
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - omnicity4659 - 14 Apr 2015
Just waiting for citaro5284 to either have a hissy fit or to publish the order
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 14 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:22 pm)cbma06 601-606
607-615 617-618 are tachos
616 open topper
617-618 are convertibles open toppers.
http://history.buses.co.uk/history/fleethist/current.htm
Deleted my previous post as it was all over
We take away 616-618 from them, leaves Brighton with 15, although i believe Brighton will keep some for a spare role, we won't get them all.
Right so with latest info:
B9's - 47 = PVR
I reckon these Omnidekka's will end up on the X21 - 7 (1 spare)
Rest as spares, depending on how many GNE get...
It now seems likely the ToonLink will get the red kite Omni's
So Eclipses to Fab 57
Withdrawn
FAB 57 B10's
Toonlink B10's
Yellow Buses
Lolynes once the decker order starts to arrive.
On top of the above:
The B10's withdrawn from the Streetlite order
Toonlink and FAB 57 B10's withdrawn to.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - S813 FVK - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 1:33 pm)Michael They'll probables keep the same ones, i think the Vyking's did when they arrived from London?
I hink he is on about the B9s here, not the omnidekkas
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 3:01 pm)Robert I hink he is on about the B9s here, not the omnidekkas
Ah right, i thought he was on about the omnidekkas.
Although i think they'll just keep them the same.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 14 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 9:32 pm)Andreos1 The reg will be interesting.
No idea if they have been registered already or if they will end up with up to date plates.
(14 Apr 2015, 3:01 pm)Robert I hink he is on about the B9s here, not the omnidekkas
(14 Apr 2015, 3:06 pm)Michael Ah right, i thought he was on about the omnidekkas.
Although i think they'll just keep them the same.
Yeah, was on about the b9's.
If they have been sitting in a compound somewhere, there has been the potential for them to have been registered previously.
Or, like 8293, not registered at all - but already a few years old.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - omnicity4659 - 14 Apr 2015
(13 Apr 2015, 7:45 pm)Malarkey Will these B9TLs be Refurbished to Go North East Standard, or will they come as they are from Dealer Stock, As the Seats on the ones going to PrestonBus dont look very Comfortable.
BJ15 TWK
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pityarder/16517632583/
I think the GNE ones will get the new standard - e-leather high back, wifi and power sockets.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - L469 YVK - 14 Apr 2015
Lets hope the B9s don't get Tachographed or they'll get hammered.
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - mb134 - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:16 pm)DaveyBowyer Lets hope the B9s don't get Tachographed or they'll get hammered.
How??
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - omnicity4659 - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:19 pm)mb134 How??
X9/X10
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:19 pm)mb134 How??
As they would become "last resort spares" for the "Tyne Tees Xpress" services - although shouldn't be prioritised over the red B7s and 6084!
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:27 pm)Tommy_1581 X9/X10
Should be allocated to the 47 only, however this is Riverside....
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - mb134 - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:27 pm)Tommy_1581 X9/X10
(14 Apr 2015, 6:28 pm)Dan As they would become "last resort spares" for the "Tyne Tees Xpress" services - although shouldn't be prioritised over the red B7s and 6084!
Ah okay, makes sense! Cheers both
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Dan - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 6:28 pm)Michael Should be allocated to the 47 only, however this is Riverside....
Read this, but replace 'Enviro' with 'Volvo B9'...
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - cbma06 - 14 Apr 2015
Does GNE service 47 warrant double deckers?
RE: Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Sidthebusbabe - 14 Apr 2015
(14 Apr 2015, 7:28 pm)cbma06 Does GNE service 47 warrant double deckers?
Like all services the viability of double deckers during off peak hours is questionable, but at peak times the single deckers simply can't cope. And of course the service will expect growth over the coming months and year and couple with DDA regulation in 2016 I would say allocating new (DDA compliant) double deckers is quite logical.