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3977
22 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm
What are Urban '90 seats?
MurdnunoC
22 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm #2721

What are Urban '90 seats?

4177
22 Aug 2015, 10:41 pm
(22 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm)MurdnunoC What are Urban '90 seats?
http://www.isri.es/urban90.php

Hard plastic with an unbelievably thin layer of 'cushion', basically a punishment sent for an unknown sin...
mb134
22 Aug 2015, 10:41 pm #2722

(22 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm)MurdnunoC What are Urban '90 seats?
http://www.isri.es/urban90.php

Hard plastic with an unbelievably thin layer of 'cushion', basically a punishment sent for an unknown sin...

3977
22 Aug 2015, 10:45 pm
(22 Aug 2015, 10:41 pm)mb134 http://www.isri.es/urban90.php

Hard plastic with an unbelievably thin layer of 'cushion'

Still none the wiser really, which buses have these? I think most of the buses I use either have e-leather seating; the type used on Omnicities; or occasionally old-style 'benches' without headrests. Stagecoach seating sometimes differs as does the Temsa seating down in Teesside.
MurdnunoC
22 Aug 2015, 10:45 pm #2723

(22 Aug 2015, 10:41 pm)mb134 http://www.isri.es/urban90.php

Hard plastic with an unbelievably thin layer of 'cushion'

Still none the wiser really, which buses have these? I think most of the buses I use either have e-leather seating; the type used on Omnicities; or occasionally old-style 'benches' without headrests. Stagecoach seating sometimes differs as does the Temsa seating down in Teesside.

MrFozz
Marxista Fozzski
5562
22 Aug 2015, 10:47 pm
(22 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm)aureolin They are like. After half hour sat on one of them, you're walking round like someone has belted your arse with a cricket bat!
Amen to that Big Grin never has there been a more uncomfortable seat
MrFozz
22 Aug 2015, 10:47 pm #2724

(22 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm)aureolin They are like. After half hour sat on one of them, you're walking round like someone has belted your arse with a cricket bat!
Amen to that Big Grin never has there been a more uncomfortable seat

10981
22 Aug 2015, 10:52 pm
(22 Aug 2015, 10:45 pm)MurdnunoC Still none the wiser really, which buses have these? I think most of the buses I use either have e-leather seating; the type used on Omnicities; or occasionally old-style 'benches' without headrests. Stagecoach seating sometimes differs as does the Temsa seating down in Teesside.

Arriva's Y reg Lowlander's.
Arriva North East 1799.
Go North East 619.
Some of Weardale's slim Solos.
Most Enviro 200's with independent operators eg. Dales & District and Scarlet Band.
Jimmi
22 Aug 2015, 10:52 pm #2725

(22 Aug 2015, 10:45 pm)MurdnunoC Still none the wiser really, which buses have these? I think most of the buses I use either have e-leather seating; the type used on Omnicities; or occasionally old-style 'benches' without headrests. Stagecoach seating sometimes differs as does the Temsa seating down in Teesside.

Arriva's Y reg Lowlander's.
Arriva North East 1799.
Go North East 619.
Some of Weardale's slim Solos.
Most Enviro 200's with independent operators eg. Dales & District and Scarlet Band.

22 Aug 2015, 11:14 pm
Ah, those. The clue to their intended purpose is in their name, really, isn't it. Short distance high volume services such as park and ride, rather than 1hr+ journeys over every rut, hill and village traffic calming measure in Co Durham.
BusLoverMum
22 Aug 2015, 11:14 pm #2726

Ah, those. The clue to their intended purpose is in their name, really, isn't it. Short distance high volume services such as park and ride, rather than 1hr+ journeys over every rut, hill and village traffic calming measure in Co Durham.

22 Aug 2015, 11:57 pm
Except the Lowlanders were used on services 722/723 from Darlington to Newcastle, then in later life could be found on Newcastle to Berwick.


And here is a better view of the Urban 90 seats. Oddly this vehicle has normal bus seating upstairs. - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...umn-aMYtNX

Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.
Rapidsnap
22 Aug 2015, 11:57 pm #2727

Except the Lowlanders were used on services 722/723 from Darlington to Newcastle, then in later life could be found on Newcastle to Berwick.


And here is a better view of the Urban 90 seats. Oddly this vehicle has normal bus seating upstairs. - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...umn-aMYtNX


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

23 Aug 2015, 8:15 am
(22 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm)aureolin They are like. After half hour sat on one of them, you're walking round like someone has belted your arse with a cricket bat!

Like sitting at the back of an OmniCity - North Shields Ferry to Bedlington Station.  Sad I found that worse than an hour on a Lowlander on the X21 over a year ago!
omnicity4659
23 Aug 2015, 8:15 am #2728

(22 Aug 2015, 10:20 pm)aureolin They are like. After half hour sat on one of them, you're walking round like someone has belted your arse with a cricket bat!

Like sitting at the back of an OmniCity - North Shields Ferry to Bedlington Station.  Sad I found that worse than an hour on a Lowlander on the X21 over a year ago!

3238
23 Aug 2015, 8:24 am
Walking around Deptford depot until 3am and loved it earlier in the night with the rain, thunder and lightning

#sarcastic
citaro5284
23 Aug 2015, 8:24 am #2729

Walking around Deptford depot until 3am and loved it earlier in the night with the rain, thunder and lightning

#sarcastic

19188
23 Aug 2015, 8:25 am
(23 Aug 2015, 8:24 am)citaro5284 Walking around Deptford depot until 3am and loved it earlier in the night with the rain, thunder and lightning

#sarcastic

What on earth were u doing at Deptford until that time? Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Aug 2015, 8:25 am #2730

(23 Aug 2015, 8:24 am)citaro5284 Walking around Deptford depot until 3am and loved it earlier in the night with the rain, thunder and lightning

#sarcastic

What on earth were u doing at Deptford until that time? Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

3238
23 Aug 2015, 8:28 am
(23 Aug 2015, 8:25 am)Michael What on earth were u doing at Deptford until that time? Tongue

We were doing a destination update.
citaro5284
23 Aug 2015, 8:28 am #2731

(23 Aug 2015, 8:25 am)Michael What on earth were u doing at Deptford until that time? Tongue

We were doing a destination update.

19188
23 Aug 2015, 8:31 am
(23 Aug 2015, 8:28 am)citaro5284 We were doing a destination update.

Any massive changes on them?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Aug 2015, 8:31 am #2732

(23 Aug 2015, 8:28 am)citaro5284 We were doing a destination update.

Any massive changes on them?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

23 Aug 2015, 9:05 am
I like urban 90 seats alot (my opinion) 1311 has comfortable seats. 1411 sounds like it ice skates. 2802 drives me up the wall on the 554, I'd much rather have 2601-2603. 7484 and 7501 make a colossal, low noise and 4514 rattles along with the GNE ones!

Ps I love 1799's seats
NK53 TKT
23 Aug 2015, 9:05 am #2733

I like urban 90 seats alot (my opinion) 1311 has comfortable seats. 1411 sounds like it ice skates. 2802 drives me up the wall on the 554, I'd much rather have 2601-2603. 7484 and 7501 make a colossal, low noise and 4514 rattles along with the GNE ones!


Ps I love 1799's seats

Dan
Site Administrator
18144
23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am
(23 Aug 2015, 8:31 am)Michael Any massive changes on them?

Service changes take place annually in September to accommodate for revisions to scholars tenders and the associated changes. Riverside's fleet was updated on the night of the changes to the "Quaylink" services (26 July 2015), Stanley's fleet was updated on the night of the changes in Hexham (2 August 2015), and Deptford was updated last night. Chester-le-Street, Percy Main and Washington will also have to undergo an update next Sunday.

The DDA regulations state that a route number cannot be on the left hand side of a front destination display, so we're currently upgrading the destination controllers to the latest firmware and rolling out a new standardised programme which removes the need for electricians to change switch settings on the destination displays. At present; sign 4 in Deptford's programme could be something completely different in Percy Main's programme, so when a bus transfers from one depot to another, the depots have to play around to get the destination working.

It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment - you should only see the ones which were wrong be corrected. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.
Dan
23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am #2734

(23 Aug 2015, 8:31 am)Michael Any massive changes on them?

Service changes take place annually in September to accommodate for revisions to scholars tenders and the associated changes. Riverside's fleet was updated on the night of the changes to the "Quaylink" services (26 July 2015), Stanley's fleet was updated on the night of the changes in Hexham (2 August 2015), and Deptford was updated last night. Chester-le-Street, Percy Main and Washington will also have to undergo an update next Sunday.

The DDA regulations state that a route number cannot be on the left hand side of a front destination display, so we're currently upgrading the destination controllers to the latest firmware and rolling out a new standardised programme which removes the need for electricians to change switch settings on the destination displays. At present; sign 4 in Deptford's programme could be something completely different in Percy Main's programme, so when a bus transfers from one depot to another, the depots have to play around to get the destination working.

It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment - you should only see the ones which were wrong be corrected. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.

23 Aug 2015, 10:10 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am)Dan Service changes take place annually in September to accommodate for revisions to scholars tenders and the associated changes. Riverside's fleet was updated on the night of the changes to the "Quaylink" services (26 July 2015), Stanley's fleet was updated on the night of the changes in Hexham (2 August 2015), and Deptford was updated last night. Chester-le-Street, Percy Main and Washington will also have to undergo an update next Sunday.

The DDA regulations state that a route number cannot be on the left hand side of a front destination display, so we're currently upgrading the destination controllers to the latest firmware and rolling out a new standardised programme which removes the need for electricians to change switch settings on the destination displays. At present; sign 4 in Deptford's programme could be something completely different in Percy Main's programme, so when a bus transfers from one depot to another, the depots have to play around to get the destination working.

It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.

I don't notice things like that
NK53 TKT
23 Aug 2015, 10:10 am #2735

(23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am)Dan Service changes take place annually in September to accommodate for revisions to scholars tenders and the associated changes. Riverside's fleet was updated on the night of the changes to the "Quaylink" services (26 July 2015), Stanley's fleet was updated on the night of the changes in Hexham (2 August 2015), and Deptford was updated last night. Chester-le-Street, Percy Main and Washington will also have to undergo an update next Sunday.

The DDA regulations state that a route number cannot be on the left hand side of a front destination display, so we're currently upgrading the destination controllers to the latest firmware and rolling out a new standardised programme which removes the need for electricians to change switch settings on the destination displays. At present; sign 4 in Deptford's programme could be something completely different in Percy Main's programme, so when a bus transfers from one depot to another, the depots have to play around to get the destination working.

It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.

I don't notice things like that

Dan
Site Administrator
18144
23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am)Dan It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment - you should only see the ones which were wrong be corrected. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.

For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes
Dan
23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am #2736

(23 Aug 2015, 10:07 am)Dan It'll be a gradual roll-out with the new programme and you shouldn't really notice any changes to the destinations which work correctly at the moment - you should only see the ones which were wrong be corrected. We're certainly now in the transition period between the depots managing the destinations and me managing them centrally.

For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes

23 Aug 2015, 10:21 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes



In the second photo, 5162 looks tilted more to one side like what normally happens with Omnicitys or was it done deliberately?

My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile
South Tyne Lad
23 Aug 2015, 10:21 am #2737

(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes



In the second photo, 5162 looks tilted more to one side like what normally happens with Omnicitys or was it done deliberately?


My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile

23 Aug 2015, 10:23 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes

The writing afterwards seems thicker
NK53 TKT
23 Aug 2015, 10:23 am #2738

(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes

The writing afterwards seems thicker

19188
23 Aug 2015, 10:24 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes

Ah right, you can notice a slight change to them.

Looking through your latest pictures Dan didn't realise Deptford's allocations will change so much in September for work runs etc..You'll have fun updating the allocated thread........ Tongue

Edit: Changed the sentence.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Aug 2015, 10:24 am #2739

(23 Aug 2015, 10:15 am)Dan For example; 5162 at Deptford has a 160x17 front LED display, but when it transferred to Deptford, it was set up as a normal 144x19 display (so everything looked squished). As it has flipdot side/rear, these weren't working, as an LED programme had been loaded to it.

Before:
[Image: 19298668893_89295b0510.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

After:
[Image: 20781955496_0001818d70.jpg]Go North East: 5162 / T812CBW by Daniel Graham, on Flickr


18:30 to 03:30am the following morning isn't a bad shift, mind...  Rolleyes

Ah right, you can notice a slight change to them.

Looking through your latest pictures Dan didn't realise Deptford's allocations will change so much in September for work runs etc..You'll have fun updating the allocated thread........ Tongue

Edit: Changed the sentence.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
Site Administrator
18144
23 Aug 2015, 10:24 am
(23 Aug 2015, 10:21 am)South Tyne Lad In the second photo, 5162 looks tilted more to one side like what normally happens with Omnicitys or was it done deliberately?

The engineers probably had the bus kneeling on purpose as it was above a pit.
Dan
23 Aug 2015, 10:24 am #2740

(23 Aug 2015, 10:21 am)South Tyne Lad In the second photo, 5162 looks tilted more to one side like what normally happens with Omnicitys or was it done deliberately?

The engineers probably had the bus kneeling on purpose as it was above a pit.

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