(05 Apr 2016, 8:49 am)NK53 TKT wrote Ah, I bet TESCO also pay Arriva for serving he Car Park, really they should use the main roundabout

Nope. Tesco don't have any agreement with Arriva at all.

PB0002717/397 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Skerne Park and Mowden/Harrowgate Hill/Fitzwilliam Dr given service number 3/3A/3B effective from 15-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

(05 Apr 2016, 11:28 am)MrPottski wrote Nope. Tesco don't have any agreement with Arriva at all.

Bus services have to go where people want to go, and I imagine Tesco is a big pull for people in the local area. Pointless throwing passengers away, but some people on this forum don't seem to understand that

(05 Apr 2016, 5:02 pm)tyresmoke wrote Bus services have to go where people want to go, and I imagine Tesco is a big pull for people in the local area. Pointless throwing passengers away, but some people on this forum don't seem to understand that

I understand passenger want to go TESCO but I thought with that land being private an agreement would be in place

(05 Apr 2016, 7:43 pm)NK53 TKT wrote I understand passenger want to go TESCO but I thought with that land being private an agreement would be in place

It doesn't even belong to Tesco, it's all owned by the MoD

And now looking towards July's changes on Teesside, survey underway on Ingleby Barwick services

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/inglebybarwick

Looks like the options are:

1. Effectively the reintroduction of the old X6/17 route from Stockton to Ingleby Barwick, and the Ingleby 15 journeys presumably shortened back to Cunningham Drive
   
2. 15 unchanged, short 17s re-routed via Beckfields to provide that area with a direct link to Middlesbrough and also provide Beckfields with a direct link to Tesco for the first time since the revision of the 15/17 back in January 2013 
   
3. One 15 an hour following the current loop of Ingleby Barwick, the opposite half hour journey would operate the reverse of the loop to provide direct links in both directions
   

(06 Apr 2016, 8:40 pm)Kuyoyo wrote And now looking towards July's changes on Teesside, survey underway on Ingleby Barwick services

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/inglebybarwick

Looks like the options are:

1. Effectively the reintroduction of the old X6/17 route from Stockton to Ingleby Barwick, and the Ingleby 15 journeys presumably shortened back to Cunningham Drive
   
2. 15 unchanged, short 17s re-routed via Beckfields to provide that area with a direct link to Middlesbrough and also provide Beckfields with a direct link to Tesco for the first time since the revision of the 15/17 back in January 2013 
   
3. One 15 an hour following the current loop of Ingleby Barwick, the opposite half hour journey would operate the reverse of the loop to provide direct links in both directions
   

Where does it say anything about July?

(07 Apr 2016, 12:51 pm)Cock Robin wrote Where does it say anything about July?

Using brain. Survey is taking place now and they'll likely be some sort of changes in July. Of course, I could be way out but you never know

(06 Apr 2016, 5:42 pm)MrPottski wrote It doesn't even belong to Tesco, it's all owned by the MoD

Didn't know that

PB0002032/523 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Berwick
Finish Point: Seahouses
Via:
Service Number: X18
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-MAY-2016
Other Details: Daily, up to every two hours

PB0002717/415 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Birtley
Finish Point: Washington
Via:
Service Number: 82
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 15-MAY-2016
Other Details: Evenings only, up to every 30 minutes


Is this a mistake, i thought GNE were running all of the journeys from 22nd May?

Edit: Also includes the 83. 

Variation Number 0
Status Registered
Operator Name ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD
Service Number(s) 82 (83)
Start Point Birtley
Finish Point Washington
Via  
Service Type Normal Stopping
Date Received 05-APR-2016
Effective Date 15-MAY-2016
End Date 21/05/2016
TAOs covered by route North East of England
Local Authorities covered by route Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
N&P Reference 2225

(08 Apr 2016, 3:35 pm)Michael wrote PB0002717/415 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Birtley
Finish Point: Washington
Via:
Service Number: 82
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 15-MAY-2016
Other Details: Evenings only, up to every 30 minutes


Is this a mistake, i thought GNE were running all of the journeys from 22nd May?

They cancelled the service from 15th May, when they're actually operating it until 21st May. I did think it was somewhat odd at the time.

I wonder if this registration will be for the operation between 15th May and 21st May, if someone in Arriva's commercial department ballsed up and cancelled the service from the wrong date?

(08 Apr 2016, 4:01 pm)Dan wrote They cancelled the service from 15th May, when they're actually operating it until 21st May. I did think it was somewhat odd at the time.

I wonder if this registration will be for the operation between 15th May and 21st May, if someone in Arriva's commercial department ballsed up and cancelled the service from the wrong date?

Ah right, was going to say thought it was odd that there was a new one for ANE when GNE had won it. 

Lets just blame Tyresmoke!  

Cheers Dan.

Press release regarding 15th May service changes in Darlington and Middlesbrough can be found here.

PB0002032/510 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth Kirkhill given service number X16 effective from 11-Apr-2016. To amend Route.

(11 Apr 2016, 5:05 pm)peter wrote Press release regarding 15th May service changes in Darlington and Middlesbrough can be found here.

Doesn't mention the 66 coming off??

(12 Apr 2016, 10:53 am)Michael wrote PB0002032/510 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth Kirkhill given service number X16 effective from 11-Apr-2016. To amend Route.

What can they change with that?
Stopping at Stannington?

(12 Apr 2016, 1:50 pm)Cock Robin wrote Doesn't mention the 66 coming off??

The timetable on the website shows that the service will continue but only at 21:35 and 22:35.

(11 Apr 2016, 5:05 pm)peter wrote Press release regarding 15th May service changes in Darlington and Middlesbrough can be found here.

And pretty much everything goes via the new feethams leisure on a evening?

Has the 'like' facility gone again already?!

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(11 Apr 2016, 5:05 pm)peter wrote Press release regarding 15th May service changes in Darlington and Middlesbrough can be found here.

Nothing on the 23, 24 and Redcar 63 yet?

(12 Apr 2016, 4:07 pm)Cock Robin wrote Has the 'like' facility gone again already?!

It has been temporarily disabled whilst the MyBB errors are investigated.

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(12 Apr 2016, 4:12 pm)Adrian wrote It has been temporarily disabled whilst the MyBB errors are investigated.

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'Like'!

(11 Apr 2016, 5:05 pm)peter wrote Press release regarding 15th May service changes in Darlington and Middlesbrough can be found here.

And certain people are going to love the new working patterns on the already complicated Bishop Auckland services:

• 12s will interwork with 1/5/5a as followed: 5 from Bishop, 1 to Bishop, 5a from Bishop, 12, 1 to Bishop
  
• 19s will work off 1s from Bishop but will work onto 5 or 5a to Bishop
  

PVR will increase for 11 to 13 - a 7/6 split.

(12 Apr 2016, 9:44 pm)Kuyoyo wrote And certain people are going to love the new working patterns on the already complicated Bishop Auckland services:

• 12s will interwork with 1/5/5a as followed: 5 from Bishop, 1 to Bishop, 5a from Bishop, 12, 1 to Bishop
  
• 19s will work off 1s from Bishop but will work onto 5 or 5a to Bishop
  

PVR will increase for 11 to 13 - a 7/6 split.

Fron what I can the 12's will go:

Arrive in Darlington as service 5 like you say.
Darlington Town Centre - Hurworth.
Hurworth - Middleton St George.
Middleton St George - Hurworth.
Hurworth - Darlington Town Centre.
Depart as service 1 to Bishop Auckland.

Boy I am not looking forward to reporting odd workings I see on these services!

Wonder how this will affect allocations? Wonder if we'll be seeing EcoCity's on the daytime 5/5A's?

(12 Apr 2016, 9:57 pm)Jimmi wrote Fron what I can the 12's will go:

Arrive in Darlington as service 5 like you say.
Darlington Town Centre - Hurworth.
Hurworth - Middleton St George.
Middleton St George - Hurworth.
Hurworth - Darlington Town Centre.
Depart as service 1 to Bishop Auckland.

Boy I am not looking forward to reporting odd workings I see on these services!

Wonder how this will affect allocations? Wonder if we'll be seeing EcoCity's on the daytime 5/5A's?

Those ecocitys should go on the 8

As there's only 2 EcoCitys allocated to the 12/12a (the third vehicle should be a Solo), I doubt they'll be ending up on the 8/8a which needs 3.

As for whether the 1/5/5a/12 cycle will be allocated EcoCitys - I would say not really. As Darlington will have 16 standard spec Pulsars to cover the 1/5/5a/12 (7), 1/5/5a/19 (6) and 8/8a (3) I would hazard at the 2 EcoCitys being spare. (Note - 1414 is reportedly transferring out of Darlington as a result of these changes due to the PVR decrease).

(12 Apr 2016, 10:02 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Those ecocitys should go on the 8

Again please can you mark any speculation as such. Has there been anything concrete said about this?

(12 Apr 2016, 10:11 pm)Kuyoyo wrote As there's only 2 EcoCitys allocated to the 12/12a (the third vehicle should be a Solo), I doubt they'll be ending up on the 8/8a which needs 3.

As for whether the 1/5/5a/12 cycle will be allocated EcoCitys - I would say not really. As Darlington will have 16 standard spec Pulsars to cover the 1/5/5a/12 (7), 1/5/5a/19 (6) and 8/8a (3) I would hazard at the 2 EcoCitys being spare. (Note - 1414 is reportedly transferring out of Darlington as a result of these changes due to the PVR decrease).

So wait there am I right in thinking that all 13 pulsars on the 1/5/5a/19 diagram will eventually go on to a 12 at some point?

(12 Apr 2016, 11:26 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote So wait there am I right in thinking that all 13 pulsars on the 1/5/5a/19 diagram will eventually go on to a 12 at some point?

Doesn't sound like it. From the sounds of things, 7 boards do 1s to Bishop, 5/5a from Bishop and 12s, the remaining 6 do 5s to Bishop, 1s from Bishop and 19s.

(12 Apr 2016, 10:29 pm)northern156 wrote Again please can you mark any speculation as such. Has there been anything concrete said about this?

He said 'should' so it was obviously speculation.