LNER (Formerly Virgin Trains East Coast & East Coast)
LNER (Formerly Virgin Trains East Coast & East Coast)
(11 Aug 2016, 7:56 pm)South Tyne Lad It was reported by Enthusiast's on the WCML at the Time of the Pendolinos entering service that Virgin ran the 86/87 and 90s + MK2/3s into the ground deliberately to get the Pendolino's more publicity, Really wouldn't be surprised if there doing a similar move here too, Considering all the fake/changed press articles released by them around the launch of the " Azuma's "
(11 Aug 2016, 7:56 pm)South Tyne Lad It was reported by Enthusiast's on the WCML at the Time of the Pendolinos entering service that Virgin ran the 86/87 and 90s + MK2/3s into the ground deliberately to get the Pendolino's more publicity, Really wouldn't be surprised if there doing a similar move here too, Considering all the fake/changed press articles released by them around the launch of the " Azuma's "
(11 Aug 2016, 8:11 pm)Andreos1 I'd never heard that rumour about stock on the WCML.
They're not getting rid of all the stock on the ECML though. Pretty sure they're keeping all of the Class 91's - regardless of the internal refurbishment programme that is ongoing at the moment on both classes.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:11 pm)Andreos1 I'd never heard that rumour about stock on the WCML.
They're not getting rid of all the stock on the ECML though. Pretty sure they're keeping all of the Class 91's - regardless of the internal refurbishment programme that is ongoing at the moment on both classes.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:30 pm)South Tyne Lad Its on RailUkForums somewhere.
Not keeping all, Just a few I believe. Unless plans have changed.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:30 pm)South Tyne Lad Its on RailUkForums somewhere.
Not keeping all, Just a few I believe. Unless plans have changed.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:40 pm)Andreos1 Last I heard, was that they were all staying. No idea how accurate that is.
Have you heard where the 91's are supposed to be going (if VTEC aren't keeping them)?
There are 65 Class 800/801's being built for use on the ECML (23 that are dual-mode with 10 that are five-car sets)
According to wiki, there are 16 Class 43 sets and 31 Class 91's allocated to VTEC currently.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:40 pm)Andreos1 Last I heard, was that they were all staying. No idea how accurate that is.
Have you heard where the 91's are supposed to be going (if VTEC aren't keeping them)?
There are 65 Class 800/801's being built for use on the ECML (23 that are dual-mode with 10 that are five-car sets)
According to wiki, there are 16 Class 43 sets and 31 Class 91's allocated to VTEC currently.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:54 pm)South Tyne Lad The ones that aren't staying are meant to be returned to the lessor I believe, There was also speculation of the displaced ones going onto the GEML Services to Norwich, Replacing the Class 90s and MK3s.
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
(11 Aug 2016, 8:54 pm)South Tyne Lad The ones that aren't staying are meant to be returned to the lessor I believe, There was also speculation of the displaced ones going onto the GEML Services to Norwich, Replacing the Class 90s and MK3s.
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
(11 Aug 2016, 8:54 pm)South Tyne Lad The ones that aren't staying are meant to be returned to the lessor I believe, There was also speculation of the displaced ones going onto the GEML Services to Norwich, Replacing the Class 90s and MK3s.Whilst operating on a slower line, is probably better than seeing them rot somewhere, I can't help feeling they would be wasted on the GEML.
(11 Aug 2016, 9:09 pm)8222 But aren't Arbellio buying FLIRT units for the GEML?
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/passe...chise.html
(11 Aug 2016, 8:54 pm)South Tyne Lad The ones that aren't staying are meant to be returned to the lessor I believe, There was also speculation of the displaced ones going onto the GEML Services to Norwich, Replacing the Class 90s and MK3s.Whilst operating on a slower line, is probably better than seeing them rot somewhere, I can't help feeling they would be wasted on the GEML.
(11 Aug 2016, 9:09 pm)8222 But aren't Arbellio buying FLIRT units for the GEML?
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/passe...chise.html
(12 Aug 2016, 11:35 am)Andreos1 50% off seat sale announced the same day as RMT announce 3 24hr strikes.
Coincidence or not?
(11 Aug 2016, 8:30 pm)South Tyne Lad Its on RailUkForums somewhere.
Not keeping all, Just a few I believe. Unless plans have changed.
(12 Aug 2016, 11:35 am)Andreos1 50% off seat sale announced the same day as RMT announce 3 24hr strikes.
Coincidence or not?
(11 Aug 2016, 8:30 pm)South Tyne Lad Its on RailUkForums somewhere.
Not keeping all, Just a few I believe. Unless plans have changed.
(11 Aug 2016, 8:54 pm)South Tyne Lad The ones that aren't staying are meant to be returned to the lessor I believe, There was also speculation of the displaced ones going onto the GEML Services to Norwich, Replacing the Class 90s and MK3s.
(12 Aug 2016, 7:59 pm)NK53 TKT I reckon the same as the 86s and 87s, Bulgaria
(11 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm)Andreos1 Even the most savvy financial director will have financed that in to any contract/bid...
Forecasts will have been planned both on income and expenditure, in addition to passenger numbers way back when they went for the contract - regardless of any new rolling stock.
New rolling stock, will (or should have), been factored in to that bid. It hasn't just sneaked up on them.
(11 Aug 2016, 6:49 pm)Andreos1 Even the most savvy financial director will have financed that in to any contract/bid...
Forecasts will have been planned both on income and expenditure, in addition to passenger numbers way back when they went for the contract - regardless of any new rolling stock.
New rolling stock, will (or should have), been factored in to that bid. It hasn't just sneaked up on them.
(13 Aug 2016, 3:24 pm)Adrian Aye. They know exactly what they're bidding for, as it's all in the tender documentation and then again in the contract they sign. The problem is that a lot of companies, as they're competing to be the most economically advantageous (or cheapest!), will pitch at a loss. They will instead forecast to make a profit through incentives offered in the contract.I have had sight of internal documents (for the attention of VTEC staff) in relation to the strike.
I've absolutely no sympathy for them.
(13 Aug 2016, 3:24 pm)Adrian Aye. They know exactly what they're bidding for, as it's all in the tender documentation and then again in the contract they sign. The problem is that a lot of companies, as they're competing to be the most economically advantageous (or cheapest!), will pitch at a loss. They will instead forecast to make a profit through incentives offered in the contract.I have had sight of internal documents (for the attention of VTEC staff) in relation to the strike.
I've absolutely no sympathy for them.
(15 Aug 2016, 6:52 pm)Andreos1 I have had sight of internal documents (for the attention of VTEC staff) in relation to the strike.
Very interesting reading!
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
(15 Aug 2016, 6:52 pm)Andreos1 I have had sight of internal documents (for the attention of VTEC staff) in relation to the strike.
Very interesting reading!
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
(16 Aug 2016, 8:43 am)8222 Oh good god, in what respect? I really hope this all gets sorted out. As for the time being, it looks like my commutes will be happening on Grand Central just in case.
(16 Aug 2016, 8:43 am)8222 Oh good god, in what respect? I really hope this all gets sorted out. As for the time being, it looks like my commutes will be happening on Grand Central just in case.
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
I think this will all be very much harming Sir Richard's Virgin brand even though he has a 10% hold of VTEC. I really do think it will destroy the franchise is many strikes go ahead. Time will only tell what will happen. I'm just hoping that it gets solved soon. It was quite interesting chatting with a first class host the other day. She was saying she isn't striking, and wouldn't even if she wanted to, because ultimately it's money she can't afford to lose.
Aircraft flown on:
744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL
(16 Aug 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 Strike suspended according to reports
(16 Aug 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 Strike suspended according to reports
Thought you could escape them when they vanished off our buses?
Think again...
https://twitter.com/DavidKeech5/status/7...1818691584
(22 Aug 2016, 3:36 pm)Andreos1 Thought you could escape them when they vanished off our buses?Are they going to tell you "please don't use the toilet when the train is in the station"
Think again...
https://twitter.com/DavidKeech5/status/7...1818691584
(22 Aug 2016, 3:36 pm)Andreos1 Thought you could escape them when they vanished off our buses?Are they going to tell you "please don't use the toilet when the train is in the station"
Think again...
https://twitter.com/DavidKeech5/status/7...1818691584