Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2017
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Anyone know when 4989 will be repainted ?
(30/12/2017, 14:32)Citaro5326 Wrote: Anyone know when 4989 will be repainted ?

Probables after the Angel and Coaster buses, and the South Tyne Versa's go in for a repaint, unless it goes for any problems, then it'll probables be painted in between.


I would think that 4989 isn't a priority atm.
(30/12/2017, 14:39)Michael Wrote: Probables after the Angel and Coaster buses, and the South Tyne Versa's go in for a repaint, unless it goes for any problems, then it'll probables be painted in between.


I would think that 4989 isn't a priority atm.

I had it on Thursday on my 18:02 35A from Heworth and I'm not complaining if i get that permanently , I have a feeling these ex london B9s are for red kites and them streetlites to the 35
(30/12/2017, 16:57)Citaro5326 Wrote: I had it on Thursday on my 18:02 35A from Heworth and I'm not complaining if i get that permanently , I have a feeling these ex london B9s are for red kites and them streetlites to the 35

Apparently the Black Cats Scania's have to stay on local Sunderland routes till 2019 due to council funding received from when they were on the Prince Bishops (Although 5214-17 have been allowed to leave Sunderand) So it looks like they will be transferring onto the 35 although that is a downgrade from the Merc's that are currently allocated. 

Or could 7 of the black cats Streetlites transfer onto the 35 with the 39 getting the scanias back? Either way the 35 is going to be a branded bus short.
(30/12/2017, 18:20)Dans_bus_photos Wrote: Apparently the Black Cats Scania's have to stay on local Sunderland routes till 2019 due to council funding received from when they were on the Prince Bishops (Although 5214-17 have been allowed to leave Sunderand) So it looks like they will be transferring onto the 35 although that is a downgrade from the Merc's that are currently allocated. 

Or could 7 of the black cats Streetlites transfer onto the 35 with the 39 getting the scanias back? Either way the 35 is going to be a branded bus short.


The 35/36 service has been downgraded for years since the 535/536 were diverted via east Herrington and started to terminate at low moorsley instead of south hetton.

The 20 going the same way with these streetlites and the extension to shields, already some deptford drivers are saying that there’s been loads of reliability problems on the Durham section due to the extension to shields, and some drivers are saying that the 56 has been losing patronage over the past year.

The black cats scanias are going on the 35.


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(30/12/2017, 18:33)cbma06 Wrote: The 35/36 service has been downgraded for years since the 535/536 were diverted via east Herrington and started to terminate at low moorsley instead of south hetton.

The 20 going the same way with these streetlites and the extension to shields, already some deptford drivers are saying that there’s been loads of reliability problems on the Durham section due to the extension to shields, and some drivers are saying that the 56 has been losing patronage over the past year.

The black cats scanias are going on the 35.


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If you think back to the deckers that operated the 535/6 and how it operated via Newbottle/Stoneygate at one point. 
Longer trips via Herrington Burn, regardless of the East Herrington diversions and smaller vehicles.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
(30/12/2017, 18:20)Dans_bus_photos Wrote: Apparently the Black Cats Scania's have to stay on local Sunderland routes till 2019 due to council funding received from when they were on the Prince Bishops (Although 5214-17 have been allowed to leave Sunderand) So it looks like they will be transferring onto the 35 although that is a downgrade from the Merc's that are currently allocated. 

Or could 7 of the black cats Streetlites transfer onto the 35 with the 39 getting the scanias back? Either way the 35 is going to be a branded bus short.

wonder what happened to the fast cats scanias as these got done the same time as the prince bishop scanias.
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(30/12/2017, 18:39)cbma06 Wrote: wonder what happened to the fast cats scanias as these got done the same time as the prince bishop scanias.

4973 - 4975 - Blue Arrow
4976 - Black Cats
5204 - 5209 - Corporate Livery
5211 - Corporate Livery


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(30/12/2017, 19:15)TEN 6083 Wrote: 4973 - 4975 - Blue Arrow
4976 - Black Cats
5204 - 5209 - Corporate Livery
5211 - Corporate Livery


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I thought he meant the ones that were upgraded to euro 5
Only 6 Fast Cats were upgraded 4976,5205-5209 and 12 Prince Bishops: 4969,4989-4992, 5211-5217
(30/12/2017, 18:33)cbma06 Wrote: The 35/36 service has been downgraded for years since the 535/536 were diverted via east Herrington and started to terminate at low moorsley instead of south hetton.

The 20 going the same way with these streetlites and the extension to shields, already some deptford drivers are saying that there’s been loads of reliability problems on the Durham section due to the extension to shields, and some drivers are saying that the 56 has been losing patronage over the past year.

The black cats scanias are going on the 35.


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Any fact behind this statement? 

My guess would be any reliability issues on the 20 are due to Durham anyway as traffic is horrendous wherever the service extends to. Can’t really see the extension to Shields causing many problems myself
(30/12/2017, 21:49)Crusader Wrote: Any fact behind this statement? 

My guess would be any reliability issues on the 20 are due to Durham anyway as traffic is horrendous wherever the service extends to. Can’t really see the extension to Shields causing many problems myself

The 20 is my local service and I have no issues with the reliability of it.

I use it regularly between where I live and South Shields/Sunderland City Centre, and would be inclined to agree that if there was any issues on the route, it wouldn't be at the Shields end! There seems to be between 10-13 minutes layover in Durham at peak-times too which really helps (as well as around 4-5 mins recovery time in Sunderland).
(30/12/2017, 21:49)Crusader Wrote: Any fact behind this statement? 

My guess would be any reliability issues on the 20 are due to Durham anyway as traffic is horrendous wherever the service extends to. Can’t really see the extension to Shields causing many problems myself

That the Black Cats Scania are going onto the 35 is fact - only 7 for a PVR of 8 isn't a problem as there will be fleet livery Scania L94 at Deptford to make up the 8th. Not worth repainting another with them due to be withdrawn in 18 months time.
(31/12/2017, 02:16)busmanT Wrote: That the Black Cats Scania are going onto the 35 is fact - only 7 for a PVR of 8 isn't a problem as there will be fleet livery Scania L94 at Deptford to make up the 8th. Not worth repainting another with them due to be withdrawn in 18 months time.

It didn't stop them painting 5204/11 for the fast cats which lasted 10 months before they were painted again. Wouldn't be surprised to see 4989 making up the 8th bus possibly branded on its current shade of red.
(31/12/2017, 11:04)Dans_bus_photos Wrote: It didn't stop them painting 5204/11 for the fast cats which lasted 10 months before they were painted again. Wouldn't be surprised to see 4989 making up the 8th bus possibly branded on its current shade of red.

Definitely no changes to buses being painted/branded.

They're actually two short of PVR for the 35, with one of the Black Cats L94s still being required for the 38 (same corridor as the Black Cats 238). So I believe there'll be two fleet livery L94 allocated to the 35, alongside the 6 Black Cats branded L94.

Quite surprising that this is happening in such a competitive environment with Stagecoach in Sunderland, and presumably won't do any favours for marketing the 35/36 group of services with three different brands (fleet livery, Black Cats and blue See it Do it) either, when 18 months is still a very long time. Don't think anyone can deny Mercedes Citaro to L94 being a downgrade in terms of the quality provided - wouldn't be as bad if the latter type didn't rattle as much, and had a bit of heat in the saloon!
(31/12/2017, 11:13)Dan Wrote: Definitely no changes to buses being painted/branded.

They're actually two short of PVR for the 35, with one of the Black Cats L94s still being required for the 38 (same corridor as the Black Cats 238). So I believe there'll be two fleet livery L94 allocated to the 35, alongside the 6 Black Cats branded L94.

Quite surprising that this is happening in such a competitive environment with Stagecoach in Sunderland, and presumably won't do any favours for marketing the 35/36 group of services with three different brands (fleet livery, Black Cats and blue See it Do it) either, when 18 months is still a very long time. Don't think anyone can deny Mercedes Citaro to L94 being a downgrade in terms of the quality provided - wouldn't be as bad if the latter type didn't rattle as much, and had a bit of heat in the saloon!

The 35 has been a bit of a joke service with all the service changes it has had over the years, although it does seem to have been left alone lately. How comes 5214-17 were allowed to leave Sunderland but were upgraded to euro 5 under the same contract?
i can feel more murging of services and changes coming for N.Tyneside in 2018(Apart from the #5),i dont know why
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Tez
(31/12/2017, 15:47)V514DFT Wrote: i can feel more murging of services and changes coming for N.Tyneside in 2018(Apart from the #5),i dont know why

9, 61 and part of the 88/88A are all being merged in 2018.
(31/12/2017, 15:51)Michael Wrote: 9, 61 and part of the 88/88A are all being merged in 2018.

all due respect thats not North Tyneside
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Tez