(12 Jan 2020, 8:43 pm)OrangeArrow49 Due to competition regulations, I don't see how it would be possible to sell the whole of the bus side to one buyer...
Yes, I though DB were not selling it now, shame. They hardly invest much to improve their bus network...
(12 Jan 2020, 8:43 pm)OrangeArrow49 Due to competition regulations, I don't see how it would be possible to sell the whole of the bus side to one buyer...
Yes, I though DB were not selling it now, shame. They hardly invest much to improve their bus network...
(12 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm)cbma06 Do you read the NEB Threads?, there were links in the thread about DB changing there minds, if I remember there was a foreign buyer but their valuation on the company was hell of a lot less than DB wanted.
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(12 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm)cbma06 Do you read the NEB Threads?, there were links in the thread about DB changing there minds, if I remember there was a foreign buyer but their valuation on the company was hell of a lot less than DB wanted.
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(12 Jan 2020, 9:01 pm)OrangeArrow49 Certainly do! I thought DB had changes their minds, but only for now, and not forever. I was interested who could buy them as surely Go-Ahead and Busways couldn't because of competition regulations.
I was not aware their was a potential buyer. DB clearly overestimated the value of Arriva. Selling it would be in the best interests of Arriva/their passengers.
Admittedly, I have disliked Arriva for a long time, so would love to see them go and I read the Arrive threads far less than all the other threads.
(12 Jan 2020, 9:01 pm)OrangeArrow49 Certainly do! I thought DB had changes their minds, but only for now, and not forever. I was interested who could buy them as surely Go-Ahead and Busways couldn't because of competition regulations.
I was not aware their was a potential buyer. DB clearly overestimated the value of Arriva. Selling it would be in the best interests of Arriva/their passengers.
Admittedly, I have disliked Arriva for a long time, so would love to see them go and I read the Arrive threads far less than all the other threads.
(12 Jan 2020, 8:54 pm)OrangeArrow49 If not Stagecoach of Go-Ahead, who could buy them?
GNE invests very heavily, whereas Arriva seems to do very little, to nothing, to improve their services.
I'd like GNE to get all the services that go via Gosforth, so I'd have loads of buses into town instead of just the Q3 and currently the Nexus 33/33A. We can dream...
(12 Jan 2020, 8:54 pm)OrangeArrow49 If not Stagecoach of Go-Ahead, who could buy them?
GNE invests very heavily, whereas Arriva seems to do very little, to nothing, to improve their services.
I'd like GNE to get all the services that go via Gosforth, so I'd have loads of buses into town instead of just the Q3 and currently the Nexus 33/33A. We can dream...
(12 Jan 2020, 8:54 pm)OrangeArrow49 If not Stagecoach of Go-Ahead, who could buy them?Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
GNE invests very heavily, whereas Arriva seems to do very little, to nothing, to improve their services.
I'd like GNE to get all the services that go via Gosforth, so I'd have loads of buses into town instead of just the Q3 and currently the Nexus 33/33A. We can dream...
(12 Jan 2020, 8:54 pm)OrangeArrow49 If not Stagecoach of Go-Ahead, who could buy them?Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
GNE invests very heavily, whereas Arriva seems to do very little, to nothing, to improve their services.
I'd like GNE to get all the services that go via Gosforth, so I'd have loads of buses into town instead of just the Q3 and currently the Nexus 33/33A. We can dream...
(12 Jan 2020, 9:37 pm)BusLoverMum Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
(12 Jan 2020, 9:37 pm)BusLoverMum Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
(12 Jan 2020, 9:37 pm)BusLoverMum Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
(12 Jan 2020, 9:37 pm)BusLoverMum Why can't you use the Arriva services, even though you could use those services if someone like Stanley Travel operated them? Do they emit a forcefield? Are you barred from them?
(12 Jan 2020, 10:27 pm)streetdeckfan I try to stay away from Arriva services wherever possible, even if it means going the long way round on a GNE service! But that's just because I'm a cheapskate and don't want to buy an Arriva ticket!
(12 Jan 2020, 10:27 pm)streetdeckfan I try to stay away from Arriva services wherever possible, even if it means going the long way round on a GNE service! But that's just because I'm a cheapskate and don't want to buy an Arriva ticket!
(12 Jan 2020, 11:19 pm)OrangeArrow49 What is the longest you would be on a bus service in order to avoid one particular company/stick to one particular company?
Last year, I used the 42A all the way from Wallsend to Kingston Park, in order to use only GNE services. This was a Sunday, and it took 72 minutes. Alternatively I could've got a GNE bus into town and got the Q3 or 33A to Gosforth High Street. I am sure there wasn't much time difference, and I had already walked to Gosforth to get the Q3 to Wallsend in the morning, so the walk from Kingston Park was something different and is a easier walk (and meant I could go to McDonalds!).
Impressions are important, first impressions are lasting impressions. I have been a fan of GNE for years now, because Stagecoach has let me down a lot of times, badly. GNE hardly ever has amazingly. I can't remember when GNE became my favourite operator, but I don't think it will change!
(12 Jan 2020, 11:19 pm)OrangeArrow49 What is the longest you would be on a bus service in order to avoid one particular company/stick to one particular company?
Last year, I used the 42A all the way from Wallsend to Kingston Park, in order to use only GNE services. This was a Sunday, and it took 72 minutes. Alternatively I could've got a GNE bus into town and got the Q3 or 33A to Gosforth High Street. I am sure there wasn't much time difference, and I had already walked to Gosforth to get the Q3 to Wallsend in the morning, so the walk from Kingston Park was something different and is a easier walk (and meant I could go to McDonalds!).
Impressions are important, first impressions are lasting impressions. I have been a fan of GNE for years now, because Stagecoach has let me down a lot of times, badly. GNE hardly ever has amazingly. I can't remember when GNE became my favourite operator, but I don't think it will change!
(12 Jan 2020, 9:58 pm)OrangeArrow49 None of your business! Don't need to be silly! No, I am not barred from them, not that it would matter!Well, I think it's quite silly to refuse to use 75% of the buses that serve your locality without very good reason eg existing season ticket for other operator.
(12 Jan 2020, 9:58 pm)OrangeArrow49 None of your business! Don't need to be silly! No, I am not barred from them, not that it would matter!Well, I think it's quite silly to refuse to use 75% of the buses that serve your locality without very good reason eg existing season ticket for other operator.
(13 Jan 2020, 12:10 am)streetdeckfan I mean, last year I went from Tindale Crescent to Cramlington using only GNE services. That took a fair bit of time!
In total I did 98 miles on GNE services, spending 8 hours sitting on a bus!
The strange thing is, I lived in a GNE area until a few years ago, and I absolutely hated them. Since moving down here and using Arriva, I realised that GNE were far superior and the things I hated about GNE weren't unique to them, and were far worse with Arriva.
When I moved out of my mother's house, I specifically looked for a house that was on a GNE route, just so I wouldn't have to use Arriva. That's how much I try to avoid using them!
(13 Jan 2020, 12:17 am)BusLoverMum Well, I think it's quite silly to refuse to use 75% of the buses that serve your locality without very good reason eg existing season ticket for other operator.
I despise the E200s on the arriva 64 but by refusing to use them I would either severely limit the amount of groceries I could carry home from the arnison centre or restrict myself, paying 20% more for doing so, and having to walk further to catch one of the options, to the 14 or 50.
(13 Jan 2020, 12:10 am)streetdeckfan I mean, last year I went from Tindale Crescent to Cramlington using only GNE services. That took a fair bit of time!
In total I did 98 miles on GNE services, spending 8 hours sitting on a bus!
The strange thing is, I lived in a GNE area until a few years ago, and I absolutely hated them. Since moving down here and using Arriva, I realised that GNE were far superior and the things I hated about GNE weren't unique to them, and were far worse with Arriva.
When I moved out of my mother's house, I specifically looked for a house that was on a GNE route, just so I wouldn't have to use Arriva. That's how much I try to avoid using them!
(13 Jan 2020, 12:17 am)BusLoverMum Well, I think it's quite silly to refuse to use 75% of the buses that serve your locality without very good reason eg existing season ticket for other operator.
I despise the E200s on the arriva 64 but by refusing to use them I would either severely limit the amount of groceries I could carry home from the arnison centre or restrict myself, paying 20% more for doing so, and having to walk further to catch one of the options, to the 14 or 50.
If Arriva was free to use, then fine, I wouldn't be that silly to refuse to use them.
(13 Jan 2020, 12:23 am)OrangeArrow49 GNE actually goes to Cramlington? I only know of the GNE 42 going there. 8 hours on a bus? Wow. I think 72 minutes is the longest I have spent continuously sitting on a bus. In a day, probably that day, a few hours.
You looked for a house on a GNE route, then decided you hated GNE, moved to Arriva territory and now use GNE because they are superior to Arriva? Seriously, are you mad? I would love to live in proper GNE territory, and would look to do so, as ridiculous as that is, living somewhere for a bus! But I love GNE enough to do it, and don't think I will ever not like GNE. Why don't you drive instead of using Arriva/using GNE and going the long way round? Completely agree with not buying a ticket for Arriva buses, I will never do that. Even on a Day Rover I wouldn't use Arriva!
(13 Jan 2020, 12:23 am)OrangeArrow49 GNE actually goes to Cramlington? I only know of the GNE 42 going there. 8 hours on a bus? Wow. I think 72 minutes is the longest I have spent continuously sitting on a bus. In a day, probably that day, a few hours.
You looked for a house on a GNE route, then decided you hated GNE, moved to Arriva territory and now use GNE because they are superior to Arriva? Seriously, are you mad? I would love to live in proper GNE territory, and would look to do so, as ridiculous as that is, living somewhere for a bus! But I love GNE enough to do it, and don't think I will ever not like GNE. Why don't you drive instead of using Arriva/using GNE and going the long way round? Completely agree with not buying a ticket for Arriva buses, I will never do that. Even on a Day Rover I wouldn't use Arriva!
(13 Jan 2020, 12:36 am)streetdeckfan It was the 42 that I got there! I regularly spend the full 2 hours that it takes for the X21 to get to Newcastle from Tindale, so 72 minutes for me is a quick journey! I know on several occasions I've spent 6 hours, mostly because I get to Newcastle, realise I've forgot something then have to come back down, then go back up!
To preface this, yes I am mad!
I used to live in Gateshead so was very much in GNE territory. We moved to Crook, which while having the GNE 'depot' only had two services a day in each direction and I didn't really have much choice in the matter. I decided that I hated living there so moved back to Gateshead to live with my grandparents. Then I decided that I preferred County Durham to T&W so I moved to Bishop because of the X21 (and 18). If there's one thing I like more than having a GNE service, it's moving house!
It doesn't make financial sense for me to drive, I currently pay £95 a month for my All Zone pass, that would barely cover the cost of the insurance, never mind the cost of a car, fuel, tax etc. Especially when I regularly travel between Bishop and Newcastle
I do occasionally travel Arriva, only when I have to. For example, because the X21 only extends to Tindale until 5pm, in an evening I'll pay the £1.40 to Arriva just so I don't have to walk the 2 miles (if there's one thing I hate more than Arriva, it's exercise!), same with Sundays, I'll pay the £1.40 for the 6, then get straight on an X21 to Durham
(13 Jan 2020, 12:36 am)streetdeckfan It was the 42 that I got there! I regularly spend the full 2 hours that it takes for the X21 to get to Newcastle from Tindale, so 72 minutes for me is a quick journey! I know on several occasions I've spent 6 hours, mostly because I get to Newcastle, realise I've forgot something then have to come back down, then go back up!
To preface this, yes I am mad!
I used to live in Gateshead so was very much in GNE territory. We moved to Crook, which while having the GNE 'depot' only had two services a day in each direction and I didn't really have much choice in the matter. I decided that I hated living there so moved back to Gateshead to live with my grandparents. Then I decided that I preferred County Durham to T&W so I moved to Bishop because of the X21 (and 18). If there's one thing I like more than having a GNE service, it's moving house!
It doesn't make financial sense for me to drive, I currently pay £95 a month for my All Zone pass, that would barely cover the cost of the insurance, never mind the cost of a car, fuel, tax etc. Especially when I regularly travel between Bishop and Newcastle
I do occasionally travel Arriva, only when I have to. For example, because the X21 only extends to Tindale until 5pm, in an evening I'll pay the £1.40 to Arriva just so I don't have to walk the 2 miles (if there's one thing I hate more than Arriva, it's exercise!), same with Sundays, I'll pay the £1.40 for the 6, then get straight on an X21 to Durham
(13 Jan 2020, 12:23 am)OrangeArrow49 Very good reason is up to me, and I am lucky to have the choice of all three operators, although Stagecoach is the dominant operator. Admittedly, my reason is not very good to be fair, it comes from when I was a child, a long time ago now, when I was going with my dad for a day out in Tynemouth I think it was, true story: We boarded the required Arriva service at Haymarket Bus Station as I recall and it wouldn't start - fair enough, buses suffer breakdowns sometimes, but get this, after waiting a little while for a replacement bus, we boarded, only for that bus to fail to start too! As I recall, we did get there eventually, and the Arriva buses we used were old and cranky things, and ever since that day I said I would never use Arriva ever again! They have since been taken over by DB, and I have stuck to my word - first impressions are lasting impressions. Arriva lost my custom once and for all.
(13 Jan 2020, 12:23 am)OrangeArrow49 Very good reason is up to me, and I am lucky to have the choice of all three operators, although Stagecoach is the dominant operator. Admittedly, my reason is not very good to be fair, it comes from when I was a child, a long time ago now, when I was going with my dad for a day out in Tynemouth I think it was, true story: We boarded the required Arriva service at Haymarket Bus Station as I recall and it wouldn't start - fair enough, buses suffer breakdowns sometimes, but get this, after waiting a little while for a replacement bus, we boarded, only for that bus to fail to start too! As I recall, we did get there eventually, and the Arriva buses we used were old and cranky things, and ever since that day I said I would never use Arriva ever again! They have since been taken over by DB, and I have stuck to my word - first impressions are lasting impressions. Arriva lost my custom once and for all.
(12 Jan 2020, 7:54 pm)Jimmi 7424 has been returned to Redcar depot
(12 Jan 2020, 7:54 pm)Jimmi 7424 has been returned to Redcar depot
To be honest I just use any operator and not get too hung up about who has let me down etc. Over the years various operators have let me down for failing to provide services.
As for Go North East and Cramlington, GNE run the 19 and the 42 through the area.
