Changes to Services 20, X24, X24A and X34 from Sunday 24 October 2021
Changes to Services 20, X24, X24A and X34 from Sunday 24 October 2021
(13 Oct 2021, 7:16 pm)Economic505 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:30:55:838
(13 Oct 2021, 7:16 pm)Economic505 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:30:55:838
I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?
In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.
(14 Oct 2021, 4:36 pm)Dan I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?
In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.
(14 Oct 2021, 4:36 pm)Dan I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?
In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.
(14 Oct 2021, 4:59 pm)stagecoachbusdepot It does seem they have done it just to have 'something' serving the new City Hall site rather than a real attempt to make it more accessible to commuters etc (Service 20 offering links to only a small proportion of the city). Arguably with that in mind would have made more sense to reverse the loop, addressing the issue of access to Vine Place etc.
(14 Oct 2021, 4:59 pm)stagecoachbusdepot It does seem they have done it just to have 'something' serving the new City Hall site rather than a real attempt to make it more accessible to commuters etc (Service 20 offering links to only a small proportion of the city). Arguably with that in mind would have made more sense to reverse the loop, addressing the issue of access to Vine Place etc.
You can see why they have done it tho as any other route would mean withdrawal from Fawcett/John Streeet Unlees they done a u turn at the roundabout only other routes that make sense to divert via The new city hall is the E1/2/6 and make it do its night route. You already have the stagecoach 8 going via there during the day
(14 Oct 2021, 6:36 pm)ThomasBooth123 You can see why they have done it tho as any other route would mean withdrawal from Fawcett/John Streeet Unlees they done a u turn at the roundabout only other routes that make sense to divert via The new city hall is the E1/2/6 and make it do its night route. You already have the stagecoach 8 going via there during the day
(14 Oct 2021, 6:36 pm)ThomasBooth123 You can see why they have done it tho as any other route would mean withdrawal from Fawcett/John Streeet Unlees they done a u turn at the roundabout only other routes that make sense to divert via The new city hall is the E1/2/6 and make it do its night route. You already have the stagecoach 8 going via there during the day
John street is dead so is Fawcett street tbh just wilko and the post office I do find it strange the way they put the 20
(14 Oct 2021, 4:36 pm)Dan I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?The 20 has a distinct travel pattern, most people alight at St. Michael's/High Street West or Grange Terrace/Stockton Road. People complain enough when the service is a couple of minutes early and terminates on Burdon Road instead of Fawcett Street. The change won't sit well with people faced with two crossings of St. Mary's, and as much as this barmpot council thinks they can focus the town centre on High Street West and the Vaux site , they can't. People still shop daily here, Jacky White's market, Blandford Street, Wilkos... Showing them where £84m of council tax money is vanishing will really please em
In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.
(14 Oct 2021, 7:52 pm)ThomasBooth123 John street is dead so is Fawcett street tbh just wilko and the post office I do find it strange the way they put the 20Look at the general demographic, Wilko's and the Post Office are two of the main destinations for pax from Pennywell/Hylton Road.
(14 Oct 2021, 4:36 pm)Dan I think the change to service 20 has some merit - but I wonder how many of Stagecoach's customers on this route actually travel to the (new) Civic Centre?The 20 has a distinct travel pattern, most people alight at St. Michael's/High Street West or Grange Terrace/Stockton Road. People complain enough when the service is a couple of minutes early and terminates on Burdon Road instead of Fawcett Street. The change won't sit well with people faced with two crossings of St. Mary's, and as much as this barmpot council thinks they can focus the town centre on High Street West and the Vaux site , they can't. People still shop daily here, Jacky White's market, Blandford Street, Wilkos... Showing them where £84m of council tax money is vanishing will really please em
In my experience of using this service, a lot of passengers are elderly and alight at Vine Place. The temporary re-routing via Stockton Road and Burdon Road came at the detriment of those passengers and forced them to walk from near Park Lane Interchange to Holmeside, and this will now do the same (albeit from Fawcett Street). The layover period at Fawcett Street doesn't make waiting on the bus to travel to Holmeside particularly attractive.
(14 Oct 2021, 7:52 pm)ThomasBooth123 John street is dead so is Fawcett street tbh just wilko and the post office I do find it strange the way they put the 20Look at the general demographic, Wilko's and the Post Office are two of the main destinations for pax from Pennywell/Hylton Road.
(14 Oct 2021, 8:41 pm)Michael Whole city centre is dead, its a dump.I agree 100% went to Newcastle other week shopping with family and was so much better then Sunderland plus you have metrocentre 15mins away too!
(14 Oct 2021, 8:41 pm)Michael Whole city centre is dead, its a dump.I agree 100% went to Newcastle other week shopping with family and was so much better then Sunderland plus you have metrocentre 15mins away too!