Enviro 400MMC's for the X10
Enviro 400MMC's for the X10
(23 Dec 2021, 3:43 pm)KingSlayerRBLX apologies it will be the 684 it will become not the 685They could keep it as the X84, and just keep the Xlines Brand on the Versa, maybe add 2 tables sorted.
(23 Dec 2021, 3:50 pm)Keeiajs They could keep it as the X84, and just keep the Xlines Brand on the Versa, maybe add 2 tables sorted.
The second brand/colour, 5th Route to be taken out of the brand (X6/X7/X47/X84/X85)
(23 Dec 2021, 3:50 pm)Keeiajs They could keep it as the X84, and just keep the Xlines Brand on the Versa, maybe add 2 tables sorted.
The second brand/colour, 5th Route to be taken out of the brand (X6/X7/X47/X84/X85)
(23 Dec 2021, 3:50 pm)Keeiajs They could keep it as the X84, and just keep the Xlines Brand on the Versa, maybe add 2 tables sorted.As long as they put some half decent Versas on, with the refurbed seats and usb, I see no reason why they wouldn't be X-lines standard.
The second brand/colour, 5th Route to be taken out of the brand (X6/X7/X47/X84/X85)
(23 Dec 2021, 3:50 pm)Keeiajs They could keep it as the X84, and just keep the Xlines Brand on the Versa, maybe add 2 tables sorted.As long as they put some half decent Versas on, with the refurbed seats and usb, I see no reason why they wouldn't be X-lines standard.
The second brand/colour, 5th Route to be taken out of the brand (X6/X7/X47/X84/X85)
If you're going to put tables in a single decker, maybe a tri-axle would be better.
(23 Dec 2021, 3:33 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Well there will be a X-Lines eliminated as there is talks about the X84 being renumbered to the 685.
so we will be losing the Orange X-Lines sadly
(23 Dec 2021, 3:33 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Well there will be a X-Lines eliminated as there is talks about the X84 being renumbered to the 685.
so we will be losing the Orange X-Lines sadly
(23 Dec 2021, 5:56 pm)cbma06 Hope when the orange e400’s move onto the x10 that the rear will be repainted into purple instead of that orangethey are
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(23 Dec 2021, 5:56 pm)cbma06 Hope when the orange e400’s move onto the x10 that the rear will be repainted into purple instead of that orangethey are
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X9 Timetable is on GNE
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/G...2022-01-13&direction=inbound
Had a look at the timetable for 1 Feb and it seems a 6 min turnaround in Middlesbrough. The old TTX had 10 minutes and was often very late leaving, hence the 25 min turnaround in 2017. Could lead to some problems.
Can’t help wondering what happens when numbers increase again (which they will, especially when Northern are cancelling services so frequently)
(29 Dec 2021, 12:51 am)jason85 Had a look at the timetable for 1 Feb and it seems a 6 min turnaround in Middlesbrough. The old TTX had 10 minutes and was often very late leaving, hence the 25 min turnaround in 2017. Could lead to some problems.
Can’t help wondering what happens when numbers increase again (which they will, especially when Northern are cancelling services so frequently)
(29 Dec 2021, 12:51 am)jason85 Had a look at the timetable for 1 Feb and it seems a 6 min turnaround in Middlesbrough. The old TTX had 10 minutes and was often very late leaving, hence the 25 min turnaround in 2017. Could lead to some problems.
Can’t help wondering what happens when numbers increase again (which they will, especially when Northern are cancelling services so frequently)
(29 Dec 2021, 1:19 am)peter Just looked at the timetable myself and the turnaround appears to be 16 not 6 - gets in at :54 and leaves :10
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the X9 could return in the future if things picked up. It's already been mentioned that there are spare MMC's at Consett or some could be ordered new in the future if things really were on the up. While these changes are 'permanent' as opposed to a temporary measure, it doesn't mean they won't be reversed in the future - we've seen plenty of other service changes made by GNE that end up being reversed - the changes in South Tyneside with the stretch from Jarrow to Lukes Lane as part of the 9 springs to mind.
You'd think if the demand returns then the service will too - GNE have probably held out running it as long as they can at a loss for the sake of consistency but it's gotta be acknowledged that covid repercussions will happen for years to come, if not permanently with regard to working from home etc.
(29 Dec 2021, 1:19 am)peter Just looked at the timetable myself and the turnaround appears to be 16 not 6 - gets in at :54 and leaves :10
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the X9 could return in the future if things picked up. It's already been mentioned that there are spare MMC's at Consett or some could be ordered new in the future if things really were on the up. While these changes are 'permanent' as opposed to a temporary measure, it doesn't mean they won't be reversed in the future - we've seen plenty of other service changes made by GNE that end up being reversed - the changes in South Tyneside with the stretch from Jarrow to Lukes Lane as part of the 9 springs to mind.
You'd think if the demand returns then the service will too - GNE have probably held out running it as long as they can at a loss for the sake of consistency but it's gotta be acknowledged that covid repercussions will happen for years to come, if not permanently with regard to working from home etc.
(29 Dec 2021, 1:29 am)Andreos1 Consolidation in to one vehicle and reducing costs may look good on paper, but I can't see it paying off longer term.I agree with this tbh, It has put me off using the X10, unless I get it from Newcastle or Middlesbrough, or after 7pm. I would much rather get the train as I can imagine some of those buses getting pretty full.
(29 Dec 2021, 1:29 am)Andreos1 Consolidation in to one vehicle and reducing costs may look good on paper, but I can't see it paying off longer term.I agree with this tbh, It has put me off using the X10, unless I get it from Newcastle or Middlesbrough, or after 7pm. I would much rather get the train as I can imagine some of those buses getting pretty full.
(29 Dec 2021, 12:51 am)jason85 Had a look at the timetable for 1 Feb and it seems a 6 min turnaround in Middlesbrough. The old TTX had 10 minutes and was often very late leaving, hence the 25 min turnaround in 2017. Could lead to some problems.I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure it's 16 minutes at both ends?
Can’t help wondering what happens when numbers increase again (which they will, especially when Northern are cancelling services so frequently)
(29 Dec 2021, 1:29 am)Andreos1 I always preferred the X9 over the X10 if I could choose between the two.It's not something GNE would've done without much consideration.
Forgetting about leasing costs, vehicle reliability, driver availability, roadworks on the A19 and Covid for a moment, I've got to ask the question about the decision to get rid of the X9 temporarily during the pandemic and look at the part that decision has made on getting rid of it permanently.
Consolidation in to one vehicle and reducing costs may look good on paper, but I can't see it paying off longer term.
(29 Dec 2021, 12:51 am)jason85 Had a look at the timetable for 1 Feb and it seems a 6 min turnaround in Middlesbrough. The old TTX had 10 minutes and was often very late leaving, hence the 25 min turnaround in 2017. Could lead to some problems.I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure it's 16 minutes at both ends?
Can’t help wondering what happens when numbers increase again (which they will, especially when Northern are cancelling services so frequently)
(29 Dec 2021, 1:29 am)Andreos1 I always preferred the X9 over the X10 if I could choose between the two.It's not something GNE would've done without much consideration.
Forgetting about leasing costs, vehicle reliability, driver availability, roadworks on the A19 and Covid for a moment, I've got to ask the question about the decision to get rid of the X9 temporarily during the pandemic and look at the part that decision has made on getting rid of it permanently.
Consolidation in to one vehicle and reducing costs may look good on paper, but I can't see it paying off longer term.
It’s a serious downgrade for the people that use that use those services between Newcastle and Hexham. I wonder if they’ll rectify it in a future order like E200MMCs or something similar.
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Has anyone been on the x10 since the X9 had been withdrawn, what are the passenger numbers like, I was at Heworth the other day and the coach looked pretty full going both ways.
I saw on FB on one of the GNE Posts about the service reductions and someone said that a X10 drove past them...not sure if this was due to the capacity or whether they put their hand out at the wrong stop.
(29 Dec 2021, 10:28 pm)Bus3888 Has anyone been on the x10 since the X9 had been withdrawn, what are the passenger numbers like, I was at Heworth the other day and the coach looked pretty full going both ways.
I saw on FB on one of the GNE Posts about the service reductions and someone said that a X10 drove past them...not sure if this was due to the capacity or whether they put their hand out at the wrong stop.
(29 Dec 2021, 10:28 pm)Bus3888 Has anyone been on the x10 since the X9 had been withdrawn, what are the passenger numbers like, I was at Heworth the other day and the coach looked pretty full going both ways.
I saw on FB on one of the GNE Posts about the service reductions and someone said that a X10 drove past them...not sure if this was due to the capacity or whether they put their hand out at the wrong stop.
(29 Dec 2021, 10:32 pm)Dan I am not sure what passenger numbers are like but apparently on the coaches there is an at-seat service where the hostess serves you bacon sandwiches
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(29 Dec 2021, 10:32 pm)Dan I am not sure what passenger numbers are like but apparently on the coaches there is an at-seat service where the hostess serves you bacon sandwiches
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