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06 Mar 2018, 9:38 am #1,081
(05 Mar 2018, 8:45 pm)Michael Overnight closures of S/bound A19 (A1290 to A1231) from Sun 22 Apr to Fri 4 May for resurfacing affecting X24
05 Mar 2018 to 09 May 2018
We have been informed by Sunderland Council and Nexus that from Sunday 22 April to Friday 4 May 2018, between 20:00 and 06:00 each night, the Southbound section of the A19 (A1290 to A1231) will be closed for essential resurfacing works to take place.

Due to the closure of the A19, the final service X24 each day may have to divert and follow one of the alternative registered routes to Sunderland.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience, delays or disruptions these works may cause and thank passengers for their patience and understanding.


What are these "alternative registered routes to Sunderland".

The X24 will have TC approved variations for traffic issues, would half expect there to be one for if the entirety of the A19 is shut. That section closure could mean off the A19 at A1290 through Hylton Castle/Castle Town to rejoin the A19 at the A1231. Looks to be the most direct route following the A19.
Edited 06 Mar 2018, 9:41 am by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
06 Mar 2018, 9:38 am #1,081

(05 Mar 2018, 8:45 pm)Michael Overnight closures of S/bound A19 (A1290 to A1231) from Sun 22 Apr to Fri 4 May for resurfacing affecting X24
05 Mar 2018 to 09 May 2018
We have been informed by Sunderland Council and Nexus that from Sunday 22 April to Friday 4 May 2018, between 20:00 and 06:00 each night, the Southbound section of the A19 (A1290 to A1231) will be closed for essential resurfacing works to take place.

Due to the closure of the A19, the final service X24 each day may have to divert and follow one of the alternative registered routes to Sunderland.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience, delays or disruptions these works may cause and thank passengers for their patience and understanding.


What are these "alternative registered routes to Sunderland".

The X24 will have TC approved variations for traffic issues, would half expect there to be one for if the entirety of the A19 is shut. That section closure could mean off the A19 at A1290 through Hylton Castle/Castle Town to rejoin the A19 at the A1231. Looks to be the most direct route following the A19.



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Kuyoyo



6,853
12 Mar 2018, 12:42 pm #1,082
PB0002404/9 Registered (Short notice)
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Killingworth to North Walbottle or Chapel House
Service number: 6263 (62, 63)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 18 Mar 2018
Kuyoyo
12 Mar 2018, 12:42 pm #1,082

PB0002404/9 Registered (Short notice)
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Killingworth to North Walbottle or Chapel House
Service number: 6263 (62, 63)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 18 Mar 2018

Michael



19,169
17 Mar 2018, 10:26 am #1,083
Normal Sunday service on Good Friday and Easter Sunday over the Easter weekend, X24/X34 will run on Good Friday and Easter Sunday:


Service X24 - Special daytime timetable, every 30 minutes. From Sunderland between 1007 and 1637, and from Newcastle between 1055 and 1725.

Service X34 - Special daytime service, every 30 minutes. From Harton Nook between 1014 and 1614, and from Newcastle between 1110 and 1710.
Edited 17 Mar 2018, 10:27 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Mar 2018, 10:26 am #1,083

Normal Sunday service on Good Friday and Easter Sunday over the Easter weekend, X24/X34 will run on Good Friday and Easter Sunday:


Service X24 - Special daytime timetable, every 30 minutes. From Sunderland between 1007 and 1637, and from Newcastle between 1055 and 1725.

Service X34 - Special daytime service, every 30 minutes. From Harton Nook between 1014 and 1614, and from Newcastle between 1110 and 1710.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GuyParkRoyal



1,005
17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am #1,084
(17 Mar 2018, 10:26 am)Michael Normal Sunday service on Good Friday and Easter Sunday over the Easter weekend, X24/X34 will run on Good Friday and Easter Sunday:


Service X24 - Special daytime timetable, every 30 minutes. From Sunderland between 1007 and 1637, and from Newcastle between 1055 and 1725.

Service X34 - Special daytime service, every 30 minutes. From Harton Nook between 1014 and 1614, and from Newcastle between 1110 and 1710.

Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.
GuyParkRoyal
17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am #1,084

(17 Mar 2018, 10:26 am)Michael Normal Sunday service on Good Friday and Easter Sunday over the Easter weekend, X24/X34 will run on Good Friday and Easter Sunday:


Service X24 - Special daytime timetable, every 30 minutes. From Sunderland between 1007 and 1637, and from Newcastle between 1055 and 1725.

Service X34 - Special daytime service, every 30 minutes. From Harton Nook between 1014 and 1614, and from Newcastle between 1110 and 1710.

Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.

Ds1197



506
17 Mar 2018, 1:25 pm #1,085
(17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am)GuyParkRoyal Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.

I think he meant Easter Monday
Ds1197
17 Mar 2018, 1:25 pm #1,085

(17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am)GuyParkRoyal Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.

I think he meant Easter Monday

Michael



19,169
17 Mar 2018, 1:30 pm #1,086
(17 Mar 2018, 1:25 pm)Ds1197 I think he meant Easter Monday

Opp's i did!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Mar 2018, 1:30 pm #1,086

(17 Mar 2018, 1:25 pm)Ds1197 I think he meant Easter Monday

Opp's i did!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L



993
17 Mar 2018, 2:14 pm #1,087
Bank Holiday timetable online for X34 shows the old loop for the route as opposed to the recently change of direction

Timetable shows Harton Nook - Marsden - Horsley Hill - Harton Nook. Which is what the route used to to do but not any longer. This is going to confuse people if this timetable is correct.
LVK 404L
17 Mar 2018, 2:14 pm #1,087

Bank Holiday timetable online for X34 shows the old loop for the route as opposed to the recently change of direction

Timetable shows Harton Nook - Marsden - Horsley Hill - Harton Nook. Which is what the route used to to do but not any longer. This is going to confuse people if this timetable is correct.

big mac



430
19 Mar 2018, 6:27 pm #1,088
(17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am)GuyParkRoyal Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.

Would there be a demand for an all year round Sunday service on the X24/X34, rather than just the ones they put on in the run up to Christmas?
I've long found it surprising that the X34 in particular doesn't have a Sunday service at all given how busy it can get.
big mac
19 Mar 2018, 6:27 pm #1,088

(17 Mar 2018, 11:29 am)GuyParkRoyal Running the X24/34 on Easter Sunday is a strange one considering most retailers have to close on that day. While it is good news for the people that might wish to use the services I think Stagecoach will make a loss on those Easter Sunday workings.

Would there be a demand for an all year round Sunday service on the X24/X34, rather than just the ones they put on in the run up to Christmas?
I've long found it surprising that the X34 in particular doesn't have a Sunday service at all given how busy it can get.

LVK 404L



993
19 Mar 2018, 8:09 pm #1,089
(19 Mar 2018, 6:27 pm)big mac Would there be a demand for an all year round Sunday service on the X24/X34, rather than just the ones they put on in the run up to Christmas?
I've long found it surprising that the X34 in particular doesn't have a Sunday service at all given how busy it can get.

This has been fed back to SNE who replied agas ago that Sunday service had been trialled and had not been successful. I've used the X34 since its introductiona back in 1999/2000 and other than the Xmas Sundays there has never been a trial as claimed by SNE.
LVK 404L
19 Mar 2018, 8:09 pm #1,089

(19 Mar 2018, 6:27 pm)big mac Would there be a demand for an all year round Sunday service on the X24/X34, rather than just the ones they put on in the run up to Christmas?
I've long found it surprising that the X34 in particular doesn't have a Sunday service at all given how busy it can get.

This has been fed back to SNE who replied agas ago that Sunday service had been trialled and had not been successful. I've used the X34 since its introductiona back in 1999/2000 and other than the Xmas Sundays there has never been a trial as claimed by SNE.

Michael



19,169
20 Mar 2018, 5:35 pm #1,090
PB0002404/320 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Discovery Museum to Discovery Museum
Service number: LS1 (LS1)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 19 May 2018

PB0002404/319 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Great Park Park and Ride to Newcastle Racecourse
Service number: NECC3 (CC3)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 20 May 2018

PB0002404/318 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Quorum Business Park to Newcastle Racecourse
Service number: NECC2 (CC2)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 20 May 2018

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 Mar 2018, 5:35 pm #1,090

PB0002404/320 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Discovery Museum to Discovery Museum
Service number: LS1 (LS1)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 19 May 2018

PB0002404/319 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Great Park Park and Ride to Newcastle Racecourse
Service number: NECC3 (CC3)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 20 May 2018

PB0002404/318 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Quorum Business Park to Newcastle Racecourse
Service number: NECC2 (CC2)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 20 May 2018


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L



993
28 Mar 2018, 6:10 pm #1,091
Nexus website showing timetable changes to Shields services 1 and 2 (the early weekend morning 3/4 prior to 11am)

Anyone know what the time changes are?
LVK 404L
28 Mar 2018, 6:10 pm #1,091

Nexus website showing timetable changes to Shields services 1 and 2 (the early weekend morning 3/4 prior to 11am)

Anyone know what the time changes are?

Michael



19,169
28 Mar 2018, 6:15 pm #1,092
(28 Mar 2018, 6:10 pm)ifm001 Nexus website showing timetable changes to Shields services 1 and 2 (the early weekend morning 3/4 prior to 11am)

Anyone know what the time changes are?

3 and 4 changes below

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:27:19:991

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
28 Mar 2018, 6:15 pm #1,092

(28 Mar 2018, 6:10 pm)ifm001 Nexus website showing timetable changes to Shields services 1 and 2 (the early weekend morning 3/4 prior to 11am)

Anyone know what the time changes are?

3 and 4 changes below

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:27:19:991


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,169
11 Apr 2018, 5:29 pm #1,093
Disruption to Stagecoach services on Sunday 13 May 2018 for the Sunderland Half Marathon and 10k races

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:57:03:546

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Apr 2018, 5:29 pm #1,093

Disruption to Stagecoach services on Sunday 13 May 2018 for the Sunderland Half Marathon and 10k races

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:57:03:546


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,169
12 Apr 2018, 7:09 am #1,094
Driver on the 18 mentioned the 18 could be changing in June/July to go over the new bridge, then through the enterprise park then back on to its current route at Queen Alex Bridge towards Southwick.

Just driver talk but thought i would share.
Edited 12 Apr 2018, 7:11 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Apr 2018, 7:09 am #1,094

Driver on the 18 mentioned the 18 could be changing in June/July to go over the new bridge, then through the enterprise park then back on to its current route at Queen Alex Bridge towards Southwick.

Just driver talk but thought i would share.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

idiot



1,121
12 Apr 2018, 9:38 am #1,095
(11 Apr 2018, 5:29 pm)Michael Disruption to Stagecoach services on Sunday 13 May 2018 for the Sunderland Half Marathon and 10k races

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:57:03:546

Should make them run about a park or go off road instead. It's what they do with cyclists.

Sunderland Council wouldn't host the national championships cycling event as they were offered.
idiot
12 Apr 2018, 9:38 am #1,095

(11 Apr 2018, 5:29 pm)Michael Disruption to Stagecoach services on Sunday 13 May 2018 for the Sunderland Half Marathon and 10k races

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:57:03:546

Should make them run about a park or go off road instead. It's what they do with cyclists.

Sunderland Council wouldn't host the national championships cycling event as they were offered.

Cock Robin



2,778
12 Apr 2018, 10:25 am #1,096
(12 Apr 2018, 9:38 am)idiot Should make them run about a park or go off road instead. It's what they do with cyclists.

Sunderland Council wouldn't host the national championships cycling event as they were offered.

Agree!
Cock Robin
12 Apr 2018, 10:25 am #1,096

(12 Apr 2018, 9:38 am)idiot Should make them run about a park or go off road instead. It's what they do with cyclists.

Sunderland Council wouldn't host the national championships cycling event as they were offered.

Agree!

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am #1,097
(12 Apr 2018, 7:09 am)Michael Driver on the 18 mentioned the 18 could be changing in June/July to go over the new bridge, then through the enterprise park then back on to its current route at Queen Alex Bridge towards Southwick.

Just driver talk but thought i would share.

Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.
Dan
12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am #1,097

(12 Apr 2018, 7:09 am)Michael Driver on the 18 mentioned the 18 could be changing in June/July to go over the new bridge, then through the enterprise park then back on to its current route at Queen Alex Bridge towards Southwick.

Just driver talk but thought i would share.

Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.

Michael



19,169
12 Apr 2018, 11:47 am #1,098
(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.

I work down that way so the 18, dependig on which way it'll go, could work for me.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
12 Apr 2018, 11:47 am #1,098

(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.

I work down that way so the 18, dependig on which way it'll go, could work for me.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

cbma06



2,669
12 Apr 2018, 12:50 pm #1,099
(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.


I’m surprised GNE didn’t step in and divert 2x 39’s as 39A’s along the old 13/14 route between bottom of nookside from town up to round Robin and along Helmsdale road back to bottom of nookside then to town .


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cbma06
12 Apr 2018, 12:50 pm #1,099

(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.


I’m surprised GNE didn’t step in and divert 2x 39’s as 39A’s along the old 13/14 route between bottom of nookside from town up to round Robin and along Helmsdale road back to bottom of nookside then to town .


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Michael



19,169
13 Apr 2018, 9:44 am #1,100
(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.

Only problem is, it'll add time on to the route, which i don't think it'll be any help on the route (as its one of the routes not really used, so not sure if Stagecoach would want to add an extra bus on to the PVR), it'll have to come across the new bridge, along A1231, to Colima Avenue then all the away long timber beach road, back to North End of the bridge, it'll add least 15 minutes in (added extra time on for peak times and we don't know how much traffic will actually use the new bridge yet).


Only thing they could do, is drop the Gilley Law section but that means, Springwell and Thorney Close could loose the service, as i would imagine it would terminate at Grindon after coming from Pennywell.

Would work really well for me, as i use the 18 to work, but depends on how long it would take and when it would arrive at the enterprise park...


Route could be: Grindon - Pennywell - Pallion - Enterprise Park - Southwick - Seaburn
Edited 13 Apr 2018, 9:59 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
13 Apr 2018, 9:44 am #1,100

(12 Apr 2018, 10:47 am)Dan Makes sense in terms of attracting more fare-paying passengers - potential workers on the Enterprise Park - but imagine this decision would cause a bit of uproar.

A fair amount of pensioners use the 18 service to get to the Gala Bingo, near Queen Alexandra Bridge. Some of them would be able to catch the 11 as an alternative, but not all. Seems like they're not all that bothered, though, as Hylton Estate (near the Sunderland Crematorium and Round Robin), where again there a number of elderly residents, is still without a bus service since the 8 was re-routed.

Only problem is, it'll add time on to the route, which i don't think it'll be any help on the route (as its one of the routes not really used, so not sure if Stagecoach would want to add an extra bus on to the PVR), it'll have to come across the new bridge, along A1231, to Colima Avenue then all the away long timber beach road, back to North End of the bridge, it'll add least 15 minutes in (added extra time on for peak times and we don't know how much traffic will actually use the new bridge yet).


Only thing they could do, is drop the Gilley Law section but that means, Springwell and Thorney Close could loose the service, as i would imagine it would terminate at Grindon after coming from Pennywell.

Would work really well for me, as i use the 18 to work, but depends on how long it would take and when it would arrive at the enterprise park...


Route could be: Grindon - Pennywell - Pallion - Enterprise Park - Southwick - Seaburn


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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