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Dan

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01 Jul 2014, 10:45 am #1
The new E400s are starting to arrive...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gne-bus-ph...548034744/
Dan
01 Jul 2014, 10:45 am #1

The new E400s are starting to arrive...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gne-bus-ph...548034744/

tyresmoke



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01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am #2
(01 Jul 2014, 10:45 am)Dan The new E400s are starting to arrive...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gne-bus-ph...548034744/

NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)

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tyresmoke
01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am #2

(01 Jul 2014, 10:45 am)Dan The new E400s are starting to arrive...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gne-bus-ph...548034744/

NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)


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mb134



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01 Jul 2014, 12:44 pm #3
(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)
Will 7529-33 be delivered immediately after 7522-8?
mb134
01 Jul 2014, 12:44 pm #3

(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)
Will 7529-33 be delivered immediately after 7522-8?

BJ10VUS



850
01 Jul 2014, 5:34 pm #4
Is the new-style display to be used on all Arriva buses in the North East? I quite like it, although I'm not a fan of the Arial route numbers.

Photo by: C522LJR
https://www.flickr.com/photos/75698454@N...Bnz-nKm2YT
Edited 01 Jul 2014, 9:16 pm by BJ10VUS.
BJ10VUS
01 Jul 2014, 5:34 pm #4

Is the new-style display to be used on all Arriva buses in the North East? I quite like it, although I'm not a fan of the Arial route numbers.

Photo by: C522LJR
https://www.flickr.com/photos/75698454@N...Bnz-nKm2YT

Dan

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01 Jul 2014, 5:37 pm #5
(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

[Image: 14548737261_c2f769a4b8.jpg]Arriva North East: "Glitter and sparkle arrives into the North East!" by danielgrahamm, on Flickr

[Image: 14365688317_97d92aff27.jpg]Arriva North East: "Glitter and sparkle arrives into the North East!" by danielgrahamm, on Flickr
Dan
01 Jul 2014, 5:37 pm #5

(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

[Image: 14548737261_c2f769a4b8.jpg]Arriva North East: "Glitter and sparkle arrives into the North East!" by danielgrahamm, on Flickr

[Image: 14365688317_97d92aff27.jpg]Arriva North East: "Glitter and sparkle arrives into the North East!" by danielgrahamm, on Flickr

mb134



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01 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm #6
With one of "Sapphires" things being to do with the "well presented, customer focused drivers" does this mean that there is a special selection of drivers from each depot that operate a Sapphire route, chosen to drive on it? If so how do they choose?
mb134
01 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm #6

With one of "Sapphires" things being to do with the "well presented, customer focused drivers" does this mean that there is a special selection of drivers from each depot that operate a Sapphire route, chosen to drive on it? If so how do they choose?

BJ10VUS



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01 Jul 2014, 6:55 pm #7
(30 Jun 2014, 7:01 pm)Tom It is if your not going outside of T&W. Arriva is 80p in T&W too.

Oh right, sorry about that!
BJ10VUS
01 Jul 2014, 6:55 pm #7

(30 Jun 2014, 7:01 pm)Tom It is if your not going outside of T&W. Arriva is 80p in T&W too.

Oh right, sorry about that!

Mark



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01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm #8
(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)

The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.
Mark
01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm #8

(01 Jul 2014, 10:52 am)tyresmoke NK14GFJ/GFO have arrived this morning... 2 more are due this week and then 3 next week. The registrations don't match the sheet I was sent though so I am not sure what fleet numbers these are, possibly 7527/8.

I suppose now might be a good time to reveal the fleet numbers for our new arrivals this year...

ADL Enviro 400
7522-7528 - Ashington X21/X22 (Sapphire)
7529-7533 - Ashington X18 (Max)

Wright Streetlite
1550-1552 - Ashington 35
1553-1557 - Durham 23
1558-1565 - Jesmond 306 (Green hybrid livery)
1566-1575 - Stockton 5/5A (Sapphire)
1576-1589 - Redcar X3/X4 (Sapphire)

The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.

JoshP



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01 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm #9
(01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm)Mark The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.

Originally there were going to be 9 not 5 streelites for Darlington but these have been cancelled in favour of Gemini 2's for the X93. I'm only going off what others have stated before on this thread Smile unless that's now changed again of course?
JoshP
01 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm #9

(01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm)Mark The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.

Originally there were going to be 9 not 5 streelites for Darlington but these have been cancelled in favour of Gemini 2's for the X93. I'm only going off what others have stated before on this thread Smile unless that's now changed again of course?

tyresmoke



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01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm #10
(01 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm)JoshP Originally there were going to be 9 not 5 streelites for Darlington but these have been cancelled in favour of Gemini 2's for the X93. I'm only going off what others have stated before on this thread Smile unless that's now changed again of course?

I think it's likely these are the ones for the X1 brought forward from next year...

(01 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm)mb134 With one of "Sapphires" things being to do with the "well presented, customer focused drivers" does this mean that there is a special selection of drivers from each depot that operate a Sapphire route, chosen to drive on it? If so how do they choose?

Yes there is a specialist rota at each depot who will be getting a Sapphire route. The number chosen depends on the route itself - for example at Stockton ours is PVR 10 so we have 28 drivers chosen after going through a selection process. All Sapphire drivers get additional customer training too.

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tyresmoke
01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm #10

(01 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm)JoshP Originally there were going to be 9 not 5 streelites for Darlington but these have been cancelled in favour of Gemini 2's for the X93. I'm only going off what others have stated before on this thread Smile unless that's now changed again of course?

I think it's likely these are the ones for the X1 brought forward from next year...

(01 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm)mb134 With one of "Sapphires" things being to do with the "well presented, customer focused drivers" does this mean that there is a special selection of drivers from each depot that operate a Sapphire route, chosen to drive on it? If so how do they choose?

Yes there is a specialist rota at each depot who will be getting a Sapphire route. The number chosen depends on the route itself - for example at Stockton ours is PVR 10 so we have 28 drivers chosen after going through a selection process. All Sapphire drivers get additional customer training too.


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Dan

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01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm #11
(01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm)tyresmoke I think it's likely these are the ones for the X1 brought forward from next year...
Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!
Dan
01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm #11

(01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm)tyresmoke I think it's likely these are the ones for the X1 brought forward from next year...
Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!

JoshP



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01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm #12
(01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm)Dan Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!

I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?
Edited 01 Jul 2014, 9:03 pm by JoshP.
JoshP
01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm #12

(01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm)Dan Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!

I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?

Andreos1



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01 Jul 2014, 9:09 pm #13
(01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm)Dan Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!

If only you had the backing of the FPF in your crusade against the mobile phone company eh? Wink

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
01 Jul 2014, 9:09 pm #13

(01 Jul 2014, 8:59 pm)Dan Christ, this order list has changed more times than the FPF have complained about their bus services!

If only you had the backing of the FPF in your crusade against the mobile phone company eh? Wink


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

mb134



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01 Jul 2014, 9:16 pm #14
(01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm)JoshP I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?
I'll have a shot (sorry if this is wrong just going off other posts):
Streetlites:
Stockton (Max ): 10 to Sapphire spec
Redcar (Max ): 14 to Sapphire spec
Durham (Micro-Hybrid) :5, standard spec
Darlington (Micro-Hybrid??) :5 (?? Spec)

B9TL'S
Redcar /Whitby: 6 (I'm assuming standard spec)
Edited 01 Jul 2014, 9:24 pm by mb134.
mb134
01 Jul 2014, 9:16 pm #14

(01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm)JoshP I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?
I'll have a shot (sorry if this is wrong just going off other posts):
Streetlites:
Stockton (Max ): 10 to Sapphire spec
Redcar (Max ): 14 to Sapphire spec
Durham (Micro-Hybrid) :5, standard spec
Darlington (Micro-Hybrid??) :5 (?? Spec)

B9TL'S
Redcar /Whitby: 6 (I'm assuming standard spec)

tyresmoke



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01 Jul 2014, 9:19 pm #15
(01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm)JoshP I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?

10 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Stockton (Sapphire 5/5A)
14 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Redcar (Sapphire X3/X4)
5 Streetlite 10.8m for Durham (standard 23)
5 Streetlite (unknown length) for Darlington (Max X1)
6 Volvo B9TL for Whitby (standard X93)

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tyresmoke
01 Jul 2014, 9:19 pm #15

(01 Jul 2014, 9:02 pm)JoshP I know! Can someone please sum up the NEW order/transfer list for Darlington, Durham and Teeside? Will these new Streetlite's be MAX for the X1?

10 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Stockton (Sapphire 5/5A)
14 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Redcar (Sapphire X3/X4)
5 Streetlite 10.8m for Durham (standard 23)
5 Streetlite (unknown length) for Darlington (Max X1)
6 Volvo B9TL for Whitby (standard X93)


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G-CPTN



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01 Jul 2014, 9:50 pm #16
(01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm)tyresmoke there is a specialist rota at each depot who will be getting a Sapphire route. All Sapphire drivers get additional customer training too.
Back in my working past I was responsible for vehicle testing - meaning drivers driving set routes (and tests) to see how the vehicles performed and survived.

One such test was a flat-out high-speed test on a banked track to ascertain engine durability on continental roads (Britain having a 70mph speed limit whereas places like Germany didn't).

Some drivers relished the work and saw it as 'sport' whilst some drivers wouldn't push the vehicles as they considered it to be dangerous should a tyre burst.

I wanted to 'grade' the drivers to avoid having sessions where the vehicle wasn't being run to its limit, (and, even, reward the fast ones with a financial bonus) but the foreman (who allocated the drivers) wouldn't hear of it and insisted that each driver be given a turn.
Edited 01 Jul 2014, 9:51 pm by G-CPTN.
G-CPTN
01 Jul 2014, 9:50 pm #16

(01 Jul 2014, 8:58 pm)tyresmoke there is a specialist rota at each depot who will be getting a Sapphire route. All Sapphire drivers get additional customer training too.
Back in my working past I was responsible for vehicle testing - meaning drivers driving set routes (and tests) to see how the vehicles performed and survived.

One such test was a flat-out high-speed test on a banked track to ascertain engine durability on continental roads (Britain having a 70mph speed limit whereas places like Germany didn't).

Some drivers relished the work and saw it as 'sport' whilst some drivers wouldn't push the vehicles as they considered it to be dangerous should a tyre burst.

I wanted to 'grade' the drivers to avoid having sessions where the vehicle wasn't being run to its limit, (and, even, reward the fast ones with a financial bonus) but the foreman (who allocated the drivers) wouldn't hear of it and insisted that each driver be given a turn.

ross13



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02 Jul 2014, 8:44 am #17
(01 Jul 2014, 9:19 pm)tyresmoke 10 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Stockton (Sapphire 5/5A)
14 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Redcar (Sapphire X3/X4)
5 Streetlite 10.8m for Durham (standard 23)
5 Streetlite (unknown length) for (Max X1
6 Volvo B9TL for Whitby (standard X93)

might be a stupud question but with new streetlites arriving for the x1 at darlington are the current x1 pulsars goin to be displaced onto services 75/6
ross13
02 Jul 2014, 8:44 am #17

(01 Jul 2014, 9:19 pm)tyresmoke 10 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Stockton (Sapphire 5/5A)
14 Streetlite Max 11.5m for Redcar (Sapphire X3/X4)
5 Streetlite 10.8m for Durham (standard 23)
5 Streetlite (unknown length) for (Max X1
6 Volvo B9TL for Whitby (standard X93)

might be a stupud question but with new streetlites arriving for the x1 at darlington are the current x1 pulsars goin to be displaced onto services 75/6

tyresmoke



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02 Jul 2014, 2:53 pm #18
(02 Jul 2014, 8:44 am)ross13 might be a stupud question but with new streetlites arriving for the x1 at darlington are the current x1 pulsars goin to be displaced onto services 75/6

I believe that's the plan yes, certainly according to the Tees Valley LSTF bid anyway!!

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tyresmoke
02 Jul 2014, 2:53 pm #18

(02 Jul 2014, 8:44 am)ross13 might be a stupud question but with new streetlites arriving for the x1 at darlington are the current x1 pulsars goin to be displaced onto services 75/6

I believe that's the plan yes, certainly according to the Tees Valley LSTF bid anyway!!


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02 Jul 2014, 4:40 pm #19
(01 Jul 2014, 9:50 pm)G-CPTN Back in my working past I was responsible for vehicle testing - meaning drivers driving set routes (and tests) to see how the vehicles performed and survived.

One such test was a flat-out high-speed test on a banked track to ascertain engine durability on continental roads (Britain having a 70mph speed limit whereas places like Germany didn't).

Some drivers relished the work and saw it as 'sport' whilst some drivers wouldn't push the vehicles as they considered it to be dangerous should a tyre burst.

I wanted to 'grade' the drivers to avoid having sessions where the vehicle wasn't being run to its limit, (and, even, reward the fast ones with a financial bonus) but the foreman (who allocated the drivers) wouldn't hear of it and insisted that each driver be given a turn.

I heard they hadn't got enough Sapphire volunteers at Redcar.
Roland Pratt
02 Jul 2014, 4:40 pm #19

(01 Jul 2014, 9:50 pm)G-CPTN Back in my working past I was responsible for vehicle testing - meaning drivers driving set routes (and tests) to see how the vehicles performed and survived.

One such test was a flat-out high-speed test on a banked track to ascertain engine durability on continental roads (Britain having a 70mph speed limit whereas places like Germany didn't).

Some drivers relished the work and saw it as 'sport' whilst some drivers wouldn't push the vehicles as they considered it to be dangerous should a tyre burst.

I wanted to 'grade' the drivers to avoid having sessions where the vehicle wasn't being run to its limit, (and, even, reward the fast ones with a financial bonus) but the foreman (who allocated the drivers) wouldn't hear of it and insisted that each driver be given a turn.

I heard they hadn't got enough Sapphire volunteers at Redcar.

02 Jul 2014, 4:41 pm #20
(01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm)Mark The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.


Nice to see 1569 at Redcar again!
Roland Pratt
02 Jul 2014, 4:41 pm #20

(01 Jul 2014, 8:37 pm)Mark The two E400's are 7522/7523 by the latest sheet. The 7522-7528 batch should be NK14 GFJ/O/U/V/X/DE/DF.
Additionally the Streetlites are now numbered as follows;

1550-1559 - Stockton
1560-1573 - Redcar
1574-1578 - Durham
1579-1581 - Ashington
1582-1589 - Jesmond
1590-1594 - Darlington

NK14 Gxx registrations have been allocated to 1550-1564, but could alter based on delivery dates.


Nice to see 1569 at Redcar again!

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