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06 Nov 2015, 5:35 am #101
(05 Nov 2015, 10:56 pm)BusLoverMum Not a great deal of consistency in the destinations!

Certainly wasn't - but at least the majority were showing the correct thing (Saltwell Park Fireworks)!

6083 hasn't been updated yet (it's one of those awkward ones which is at Hexham when you need it to be at Riverside and at Riverside when you need it to be at Hexham), hence why it was showing an old version of the F1 screen. The Olympian and 3964 had the F1 programmed - driver just didn't know where the F1 destination could be found (until I told him!) Smile
Dan
06 Nov 2015, 5:35 am #101

(05 Nov 2015, 10:56 pm)BusLoverMum Not a great deal of consistency in the destinations!

Certainly wasn't - but at least the majority were showing the correct thing (Saltwell Park Fireworks)!

6083 hasn't been updated yet (it's one of those awkward ones which is at Hexham when you need it to be at Riverside and at Riverside when you need it to be at Hexham), hence why it was showing an old version of the F1 screen. The Olympian and 3964 had the F1 programmed - driver just didn't know where the F1 destination could be found (until I told him!) Smile

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06 Nov 2015, 9:11 am #102
Street deck on 53 at the mo
JP6004
06 Nov 2015, 9:11 am #102

Street deck on 53 at the mo

dannygee



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06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am #103
Just been looking at the 9 timetable. Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri
dannygee
06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am #103

Just been looking at the 9 timetable. Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri

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06 Nov 2015, 10:05 am #104
(06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am)dannygee Just been looking at the 9 timetable.  Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri

I'd be inclined to say that it's the same as the 'A' on the Saturday and Sunday timetables, being that it terminates at Percy Main, and that there's been a mistake.
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06 Nov 2015, 10:05 am #104

(06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am)dannygee Just been looking at the 9 timetable.  Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri

I'd be inclined to say that it's the same as the 'A' on the Saturday and Sunday timetables, being that it terminates at Percy Main, and that there's been a mistake.

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06 Nov 2015, 10:12 am #105
(06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am)dannygee Just been looking at the 9 timetable.  Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri

(06 Nov 2015, 10:05 am)BJ10VUS I'd be inclined to say that it's the same as the 'A' on the Saturday and Sunday timetables, being that it terminates at Percy Main, and that there's been a mistake.

Yes, there's been a typo. The 'A' should be where the '2302' is, and obviously if this time was included, it should have been '0002' or '2402'.

Will pass the message on - thanks.
Dan
06 Nov 2015, 10:12 am #105

(06 Nov 2015, 10:00 am)dannygee Just been looking at the 9 timetable.  Anyone know what the 'B' means on mon-fri

(06 Nov 2015, 10:05 am)BJ10VUS I'd be inclined to say that it's the same as the 'A' on the Saturday and Sunday timetables, being that it terminates at Percy Main, and that there's been a mistake.

Yes, there's been a typo. The 'A' should be where the '2302' is, and obviously if this time was included, it should have been '0002' or '2402'.

Will pass the message on - thanks.

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06 Nov 2015, 10:32 am #106
(06 Nov 2015, 9:11 am)JP6004 Street deck on 53 at the mo

Seems the Streetdeck is getting used on loads of services atm.
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Michael
06 Nov 2015, 10:32 am #106

(06 Nov 2015, 9:11 am)JP6004 Street deck on 53 at the mo

Seems the Streetdeck is getting used on loads of services atm.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Greg in Weardale



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06 Nov 2015, 10:35 am #107
B means it buggers off somewhere else and doesn't go to Rudyerd Street.
Greg in Weardale
06 Nov 2015, 10:35 am #107

B means it buggers off somewhere else and doesn't go to Rudyerd Street.

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06 Nov 2015, 11:10 am #108
Didn't get id, but a Durham bound 21 (that hasn't long left Chester), doesn't have a working front blind.
Andreos1
06 Nov 2015, 11:10 am #108

Didn't get id, but a Durham bound 21 (that hasn't long left Chester), doesn't have a working front blind.

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06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am #109
(06 Nov 2015, 10:32 am)Michael Seems the Streetdeck is getting used on loads of services atm.

Could do with a trashing on the 27
JP6004
06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am #109

(06 Nov 2015, 10:32 am)Michael Seems the Streetdeck is getting used on loads of services atm.

Could do with a trashing on the 27

Michael



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06 Nov 2015, 11:26 am #110
(06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am)JP6004 Could do with a trashing on the 27

Would be a good idea to try it on the route.

How long is it before the streetdeck heads else where?
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Michael
06 Nov 2015, 11:26 am #110

(06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am)JP6004 Could do with a trashing on the 27

Would be a good idea to try it on the route.

How long is it before the streetdeck heads else where?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



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06 Nov 2015, 11:27 am #111
(06 Nov 2015, 11:26 am)Michael Would be a good idea to try it on the route.

How long is it before the streetdeck heads else where?

No harm in sending it to washy for X1

Edit: Probs end up on the 86 though ?
Edited 06 Nov 2015, 11:28 am by JP6004.
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06 Nov 2015, 11:27 am #111

(06 Nov 2015, 11:26 am)Michael Would be a good idea to try it on the route.

How long is it before the streetdeck heads else where?

No harm in sending it to washy for X1

Edit: Probs end up on the 86 though ?

Michael



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06 Nov 2015, 11:36 am #112
(06 Nov 2015, 11:27 am)JP6004 No harm in sending it to washy for X1

Tongue, Davey would be happy.


Wouldn't surprise me though if the B9's are replaced soon, not this years financial year maybe 2016-2017...when 6001-6007 are 5 years old... means they can replace them and 6049-6055 to, which will allow GNE to give them an early repaint...

or

They could wait until all of them are 5 years and over...so that would be 2017/2018 financial year.
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Michael
06 Nov 2015, 11:36 am #112

(06 Nov 2015, 11:27 am)JP6004 No harm in sending it to washy for X1

Tongue, Davey would be happy.


Wouldn't surprise me though if the B9's are replaced soon, not this years financial year maybe 2016-2017...when 6001-6007 are 5 years old... means they can replace them and 6049-6055 to, which will allow GNE to give them an early repaint...

or

They could wait until all of them are 5 years and over...so that would be 2017/2018 financial year.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



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06 Nov 2015, 12:20 pm #113
(06 Nov 2015, 11:36 am)Michael Tongue, Davey would be happy.


Wouldn't surprise me though if the B9's are replaced soon, not this years financial year maybe 2016-2017...when 6001-6007 are 5 years old... means they can replace them and 6049-6055 to, which will allow GNE to give them an early repaint...

or

They could wait until all of them are 5 years and over...so that would be 2017/2018 financial year.

I think now that the QCS has been sidelined, I would imagine they would invest to replace some of the older branded vehicles...maybe the end of the purple solars Wink I agree if the X1 was upgraded, it wouldn't be until at least 2016-2017 financial year
JP6004
06 Nov 2015, 12:20 pm #113

(06 Nov 2015, 11:36 am)Michael Tongue, Davey would be happy.


Wouldn't surprise me though if the B9's are replaced soon, not this years financial year maybe 2016-2017...when 6001-6007 are 5 years old... means they can replace them and 6049-6055 to, which will allow GNE to give them an early repaint...

or

They could wait until all of them are 5 years and over...so that would be 2017/2018 financial year.

I think now that the QCS has been sidelined, I would imagine they would invest to replace some of the older branded vehicles...maybe the end of the purple solars Wink I agree if the X1 was upgraded, it wouldn't be until at least 2016-2017 financial year

Adrian

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06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm #114
(06 Nov 2015, 12:20 pm)JP6004 I think now that the QCS has been sidelined, I would imagine they would invest to replace some of the older branded vehicles...maybe the end of the purple solars Wink I agree if the X1 was upgraded, it wouldn't be until at least 2016-2017 financial year

This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...
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06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm #114

(06 Nov 2015, 12:20 pm)JP6004 I think now that the QCS has been sidelined, I would imagine they would invest to replace some of the older branded vehicles...maybe the end of the purple solars Wink I agree if the X1 was upgraded, it wouldn't be until at least 2016-2017 financial year

This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...

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06 Nov 2015, 12:51 pm #115
(06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am)JP6004 Could do with a trashing on the 27

That may happen if the 27 were to get new vehicles Streetdeck would be the option I can get them mega early for me 

On another not 6129 has gained Northern branding I'll upload photo later on today
Diamond One
06 Nov 2015, 12:51 pm #115

(06 Nov 2015, 11:23 am)JP6004 Could do with a trashing on the 27

That may happen if the 27 were to get new vehicles Streetdeck would be the option I can get them mega early for me 

On another not 6129 has gained Northern branding I'll upload photo later on today

Michael



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06 Nov 2015, 12:56 pm #116
(06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm)Adrian This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...

We haven't but i was just saying if the Red Arrows got new buses it wouldn't be until at least the 2016/2017 financial year over further down the line....... as its constantly said about the Red Arrows getting new buses on the forum nearly every few weeks!
Edited 06 Nov 2015, 1:06 pm by Michael.
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Michael
06 Nov 2015, 12:56 pm #116

(06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm)Adrian This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...

We haven't but i was just saying if the Red Arrows got new buses it wouldn't be until at least the 2016/2017 financial year over further down the line....... as its constantly said about the Red Arrows getting new buses on the forum nearly every few weeks!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



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06 Nov 2015, 1:04 pm #117
(06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm)Adrian This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...

Well pardon me for breathimg. My point is that it hasn't exactly had a glowing endorsement and the nexus website has said the NECA will decide on whether ask for a revised proposal based on the concerns raised.

I also wasn't guessing at next year's orders. I was merely speculating that should the X1 receive further investment, it would be unlikely before the 2016-2017 financial year
JP6004
06 Nov 2015, 1:04 pm #117

(06 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm)Adrian This is becoming a bit repetitive, but it hasn't been sidelined. The QCS board have simply given their opinion. Not a verdict. It'll be taken to one of the next NECA meetings, and a recommendation will be made to councillors from there.

Re: 2016-17 orders. We haven't even found out what this year's order contains yet...

Well pardon me for breathimg. My point is that it hasn't exactly had a glowing endorsement and the nexus website has said the NECA will decide on whether ask for a revised proposal based on the concerns raised.

I also wasn't guessing at next year's orders. I was merely speculating that should the X1 receive further investment, it would be unlikely before the 2016-2017 financial year

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06 Nov 2015, 1:17 pm #118
The Quality Contract proposal by Nexus is almost certainly dead as it would be grossly irresponsible for NECA to proceed after the damning verdict by the examining Board that it was not good value for money. However, it is too early for the operators to rejoice because we do not know what will come with the government's devolution proposals; if the local authorities accept these it is almost certain that they will include some control over bus services.
Greg in Weardale
06 Nov 2015, 1:17 pm #118

The Quality Contract proposal by Nexus is almost certainly dead as it would be grossly irresponsible for NECA to proceed after the damning verdict by the examining Board that it was not good value for money. However, it is too early for the operators to rejoice because we do not know what will come with the government's devolution proposals; if the local authorities accept these it is almost certain that they will include some control over bus services.

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06 Nov 2015, 1:19 pm #119
6122 joins the Northern bandwagon
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06 Nov 2015, 1:19 pm #119

6122 joins the Northern bandwagon

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06 Nov 2015, 1:20 pm #120
(06 Nov 2015, 1:04 pm)JP6004 Well pardon me for breathimg. My point is that it hasn't exactly had a glowing endorsement and the nexus website has said the NECA will decide on whether ask for a revised proposal based on the concerns raised.

I also wasn't guessing at next year's orders. I was merely speculating that should the X1 receive further investment, it would be unlikely before the 2016-2017 financial year

Why didn't you say that then? You've read the same as what I've read, so you'll understand that it'll have to go to a NECA committee/board, before there's any potential of the plans being sidelined.

My point was merely to raise awareness, in the mist of spun press headlines.

(06 Nov 2015, 12:56 pm)Michael We haven't but i was just saying if the Red Arrows got new buses it wouldn't be until at least the 2016/2017 financial year over further down the line....... as its constantly said about the Red Arrows getting new buses on the forum nearly every few weeks!

Without trying to turn this into the order predictions thread, I'd suggest it's rather difficult to predict for the following financial year's order, when you don't know what's on this year's. Even once this year's order is known, there'll then be a series of cascades, as there is every year. The allocations could be completely different in 6 months time.

Who's to say there aren't plans for the Red Arrows in this year's order? I know it's becoming a broken record, but the B9TLs may actually be required elsewhere.
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06 Nov 2015, 1:20 pm #120

(06 Nov 2015, 1:04 pm)JP6004 Well pardon me for breathimg. My point is that it hasn't exactly had a glowing endorsement and the nexus website has said the NECA will decide on whether ask for a revised proposal based on the concerns raised.

I also wasn't guessing at next year's orders. I was merely speculating that should the X1 receive further investment, it would be unlikely before the 2016-2017 financial year

Why didn't you say that then? You've read the same as what I've read, so you'll understand that it'll have to go to a NECA committee/board, before there's any potential of the plans being sidelined.

My point was merely to raise awareness, in the mist of spun press headlines.

(06 Nov 2015, 12:56 pm)Michael We haven't but i was just saying if the Red Arrows got new buses it wouldn't be until at least the 2016/2017 financial year over further down the line....... as its constantly said about the Red Arrows getting new buses on the forum nearly every few weeks!

Without trying to turn this into the order predictions thread, I'd suggest it's rather difficult to predict for the following financial year's order, when you don't know what's on this year's. Even once this year's order is known, there'll then be a series of cascades, as there is every year. The allocations could be completely different in 6 months time.

Who's to say there aren't plans for the Red Arrows in this year's order? I know it's becoming a broken record, but the B9TLs may actually be required elsewhere.

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