Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(31 Dec 2023, 7:23 pm)DaveFromUpNorth There is a way we can use integration of forcing passengers to use the metro at stations.
The best example we have is any buses south of tyne terminate at Gateshead (only services that terminate at Newcastle and Market Street etc... )
Eg:- 21 56 X1 x21 etc ...
Have a deal with Metro where During the tyne bridge disruption buses terminate and start at Gateshead the tickets are valid to use the metro to station's Haymarket Momument and central station
Cross services buses like 1 may need to split service short to medium term this will improve reliability as no doubt there will be massive queues and delays
We often see services terminating at Gateshead if they are running late to get back to timetable
Also bear in mind new trains should be more reliable and it is a boost to Gateshead town centre with footfall
(31 Dec 2023, 7:23 pm)DaveFromUpNorth There is a way we can use integration of forcing passengers to use the metro at stations.
The best example we have is any buses south of tyne terminate at Gateshead (only services that terminate at Newcastle and Market Street etc... )
Eg:- 21 56 X1 x21 etc ...
Have a deal with Metro where During the tyne bridge disruption buses terminate and start at Gateshead the tickets are valid to use the metro to station's Haymarket Momument and central station
Cross services buses like 1 may need to split service short to medium term this will improve reliability as no doubt there will be massive queues and delays
We often see services terminating at Gateshead if they are running late to get back to timetable
Also bear in mind new trains should be more reliable and it is a boost to Gateshead town centre with footfall
(31 Dec 2023, 8:31 pm)Unber43 58 should go through, as whats the point of going say from Windy Nook to come back into Heworth to then go into Newcastle
Its more long distanced.
(31 Dec 2023, 8:31 pm)Unber43 58 should go through, as whats the point of going say from Windy Nook to come back into Heworth to then go into Newcastle
Its more long distanced.
(31 Dec 2023, 10:01 pm)Unber43 Honestly, the big issue here is cars. We shoudlnt be cutting bus routes, no one can be bothered to change 3 times to get to Newcastle when the car goes direct, park and rides and proper bus routes which reflect customer demands would be much better
(31 Dec 2023, 10:01 pm)Unber43 Honestly, the big issue here is cars. We shoudlnt be cutting bus routes, no one can be bothered to change 3 times to get to Newcastle when the car goes direct, park and rides and proper bus routes which reflect customer demands would be much better
(31 Dec 2023, 10:20 pm)Unber43 Durham PVR, was...before COVID.
(31 Dec 2023, 10:45 pm)Unber43 Is that not due to lack of advertising and investment from local authorities
(31 Dec 2023, 10:45 pm)Unber43 Is that not due to lack of advertising and investment from local authorities
You are right about the tyne bridge being used by cars not going to Newcastle City Centre
There is an alternative and that is for the Nexus and the major bus companies to "campaign" for the Tyne Tunnel toll to be reduced to a £1
Push those cars to use the tyne tunnel and A1
It is clearly the price aka toll money which is forcing cars not to use it
I know the debate becomes well we should be pushing people out of cars but these are already NIMBY so short -Medium term if we can't get them out of cars let's move them away from traffic jam areas.
I need to use my car to work however where possible I use the bus I do not use the bus to get to work as it takes 1hr 40mins or 50min then 32minute walk vs a car which is 15-20min
For my other job due to the tunnel price it is often about the same price as to drive via tyne bridge I'd prob save if I did the journey 4 times a day at £2 I'd save about £200 and I don't think it would be that in fuel so there is a saving.
We have the combined authority constantly increasing the tunnel toll every year which is pushing cars else where
I am not confident that the tunnel does not make a profit from all the unpaid toll charges to offset the cost of after all the tunnel is running to capacity anyway last report i saw was about 40%-60% capacity
Let's push the traffic through the tunnel instead of the tyne bridge
(01 Jan 2024, 9:36 am)DaveFromUpNorth You are right about the tyne bridge being used by cars not going to Newcastle City Centre
There is an alternative and that is for the Nexus and the major bus companies to "campaign" for the Tyne Tunnel toll to be reduced to a £1
Push those cars to use the tyne tunnel and A1
It is clearly the price aka toll money which is forcing cars not to use it
I know the debate becomes well we should be pushing people out of cars but these are already NIMBY so short -Medium term if we can't get them out of cars let's move them away from traffic jam areas.
I need to use my car to work however where possible I use the bus I do not use the bus to get to work as it takes 1hr 40mins or 50min then 32minute walk vs a car which is 15-20min
For my other job due to the tunnel price it is often about the same price as to drive via tyne bridge I'd prob save if I did the journey 4 times a day at £2 I'd save about £200 and I don't think it would be that in fuel so there is a saving.
We have the combined authority constantly increasing the tunnel toll every year which is pushing cars else where
I am not confident that the tunnel does not make a profit from all the unpaid toll charges to offset the cost of after all the tunnel is running to capacity anyway last report i saw was about 40%-60% capacity
Let's push the traffic through the tunnel instead of the tyne bridge
(01 Jan 2024, 9:36 am)DaveFromUpNorth You are right about the tyne bridge being used by cars not going to Newcastle City Centre
There is an alternative and that is for the Nexus and the major bus companies to "campaign" for the Tyne Tunnel toll to be reduced to a £1
Push those cars to use the tyne tunnel and A1
It is clearly the price aka toll money which is forcing cars not to use it
I know the debate becomes well we should be pushing people out of cars but these are already NIMBY so short -Medium term if we can't get them out of cars let's move them away from traffic jam areas.
I need to use my car to work however where possible I use the bus I do not use the bus to get to work as it takes 1hr 40mins or 50min then 32minute walk vs a car which is 15-20min
For my other job due to the tunnel price it is often about the same price as to drive via tyne bridge I'd prob save if I did the journey 4 times a day at £2 I'd save about £200 and I don't think it would be that in fuel so there is a saving.
We have the combined authority constantly increasing the tunnel toll every year which is pushing cars else where
I am not confident that the tunnel does not make a profit from all the unpaid toll charges to offset the cost of after all the tunnel is running to capacity anyway last report i saw was about 40%-60% capacity
Let's push the traffic through the tunnel instead of the tyne bridge
To be honest, I think the big issue we're battling is the Uber / PCP Rangey Brigade.
Could have a fantastic bus or metro service from an estate into Newcastle....but convincing people in that category yo make the switch is another thing. High car ownership / low deprivation areas are always going to be an uphill struggle.
Prime example although not a housing estate....someome staying at the Village Hotel and wants to head into Newcastle for a few drinks........
- 309 to the City in less than 30 minutes and £2 per head
- 23:45 last bus back to the Hotel
Yet.....see plenty of Nearby, Uber, Blueline cars pulling up outside.
To be fair.....GNE should really be pushing this from their end and engaging businesses. When Sam Fender and Pink was on......plenty of taxis being phoned but no direction to a bus stop literally across the road.
(01 Jan 2024, 3:43 pm)L469 YVK To be honest, I think the big issue we're battling is the Uber / PCP Rangey Brigade.
Could have a fantastic bus or metro service from an estate into Newcastle....but convincing people in that category yo make the switch is another thing. High car ownership / low deprivation areas are always going to be an uphill struggle.
Prime example although not a housing estate....someome staying at the Village Hotel and wants to head into Newcastle for a few drinks........
- 309 to the City in less than 30 minutes and £2 per head
- 23:45 last bus back to the Hotel
Yet.....see plenty of Nearby, Uber, Blueline cars pulling up outside.
To be fair.....GNE should really be pushing this from their end and engaging businesses. When Sam Fender and Pink was on......plenty of taxis being phoned but no direction to a bus stop literally across the road.
(01 Jan 2024, 3:43 pm)L469 YVK To be honest, I think the big issue we're battling is the Uber / PCP Rangey Brigade.
Could have a fantastic bus or metro service from an estate into Newcastle....but convincing people in that category yo make the switch is another thing. High car ownership / low deprivation areas are always going to be an uphill struggle.
Prime example although not a housing estate....someome staying at the Village Hotel and wants to head into Newcastle for a few drinks........
- 309 to the City in less than 30 minutes and £2 per head
- 23:45 last bus back to the Hotel
Yet.....see plenty of Nearby, Uber, Blueline cars pulling up outside.
To be fair.....GNE should really be pushing this from their end and engaging businesses. When Sam Fender and Pink was on......plenty of taxis being phoned but no direction to a bus stop literally across the road.
On the Tyne Bridge vs Tyne Tunnel thing, on my regular journey to the Heaton area I don't think there's much difference timewise. But the Tunnel charges a toll, so it'll always be in via the Felling bypass and across the Tyne Bridge for me. Make the Tunnel free, and I'd be far more likely to use it.
(02 Jan 2024, 7:50 am)Ianthegoon On the Tyne Bridge vs Tyne Tunnel thing, on my regular journey to the Heaton area I don't think there's much difference timewise. But the Tunnel charges a toll, so it'll always be in via the Felling bypass and across the Tyne Bridge for me. Make the Tunnel free, and I'd be far more likely to use it.
(02 Jan 2024, 7:50 am)Ianthegoon On the Tyne Bridge vs Tyne Tunnel thing, on my regular journey to the Heaton area I don't think there's much difference timewise. But the Tunnel charges a toll, so it'll always be in via the Felling bypass and across the Tyne Bridge for me. Make the Tunnel free, and I'd be far more likely to use it.
bring 55 back and it to be every 30 mins runing by sunderland connect solo - aswell as 664 all be painted into violet 55 livery
(10 Jan 2024, 6:53 pm)Graphite39A/39B/39 bring 55 back and it to be every 30 mins runing by sunderland connect solo - aswell as 664 all be painted into violet 55 livery
(10 Jan 2024, 6:53 pm)Graphite39A/39B/39 bring 55 back and it to be every 30 mins runing by sunderland connect solo - aswell as 664 all be painted into violet 55 livery
(10 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm)54APhotography Won't be anymore violets. Not sure 55 would muster enough for a 30 min service.
(10 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm)54APhotography Won't be anymore violets. Not sure 55 would muster enough for a 30 min service.
(10 Jan 2024, 6:53 pm)Graphite39A/39B/39 bring 55 back and it to be every 30 mins runing by sunderland connect solo - aswell as 664 all be painted into violet 55 livery
(10 Jan 2024, 6:53 pm)Graphite39A/39B/39 bring 55 back and it to be every 30 mins runing by sunderland connect solo - aswell as 664 all be painted into violet 55 livery
Would an EV Decker be able to a full day on the X21, i want to design a half hourly competing* route between Newcastle & Spennymoor.
*Would be based on the old 724 route but via Saltwell Park & Central Station instead of Low Fell & Gateshead.