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V514DFT



2,245
13 Nov 2016, 10:07 am #41
I think the Newcastle network needs looking at,i dunno what is but ever since the big changes back in 2003(i think it was),its always felt like something is missing,but cant put my finger on it
V514DFT
13 Nov 2016, 10:07 am #41

I think the Newcastle network needs looking at,i dunno what is but ever since the big changes back in 2003(i think it was),its always felt like something is missing,but cant put my finger on it

markydh



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13 Nov 2016, 11:47 am #42
It's such a cash cow, it's been left to its own devices. The only real improvement I can think of would be a link from west Newcastle to the Airport. It's such a pain having to go to town then back again!
markydh
13 Nov 2016, 11:47 am #42

It's such a cash cow, it's been left to its own devices. The only real improvement I can think of would be a link from west Newcastle to the Airport. It's such a pain having to go to town then back again!

Dan

Site Administrator

18,120
13 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm #43
27507 is currently at Sunderland - presumably for repaint prior to onward transfer.
Dan
13 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm #43

27507 is currently at Sunderland - presumably for repaint prior to onward transfer.

Youngymmv



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13 Nov 2016, 4:26 pm #44
(13 Nov 2016, 9:47 am)UBuses98 sorry if its not true but someone said on Facebook that the SP08 buses for 100 service should be in service by the end of this week.

In service already or at least one that has been seen Smile

Kind regards
Youngymmv
13 Nov 2016, 4:26 pm #44

(13 Nov 2016, 9:47 am)UBuses98 sorry if its not true but someone said on Facebook that the SP08 buses for 100 service should be in service by the end of this week.

In service already or at least one that has been seen Smile

Kind regards

park5354



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13 Nov 2016, 5:35 pm #45
(13 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm)Dan 27507 is currently at Sunderland - presumably for repaint prior to onward transfer.

should give them to Sunderland for X24.
park5354
13 Nov 2016, 5:35 pm #45

(13 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm)Dan 27507 is currently at Sunderland - presumably for repaint prior to onward transfer.

should give them to Sunderland for X24.

14 Nov 2016, 10:54 am #46
(13 Nov 2016, 10:07 am)V514DFT I think the Newcastle network needs looking at,i dunno what is but ever since the big changes back in 2003(i think it was),its always felt like something is missing,but cant put my finger on it

If it's not broke, don't tinker   Rolleyes

However there is a full network review being taken place for changes in the new year since appointment of the new MD. But it is part of a full UK wide savings drive the company is doing.


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RBZ 5459
14 Nov 2016, 10:54 am #46

(13 Nov 2016, 10:07 am)V514DFT I think the Newcastle network needs looking at,i dunno what is but ever since the big changes back in 2003(i think it was),its always felt like something is missing,but cant put my finger on it

If it's not broke, don't tinker   Rolleyes

However there is a full network review being taken place for changes in the new year since appointment of the new MD. But it is part of a full UK wide savings drive the company is doing.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

V514DFT



2,245
14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm #47
(14 Nov 2016, 10:54 am)RBZ 5459 If it's not broke, don't tinker   Rolleyes

However there is a full network review being taken place for changes in the new year since appointment of the new MD. But it is part of a full UK wide savings drive the company is doing.

No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years
V514DFT
14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm #47

(14 Nov 2016, 10:54 am)RBZ 5459 If it's not broke, don't tinker   Rolleyes

However there is a full network review being taken place for changes in the new year since appointment of the new MD. But it is part of a full UK wide savings drive the company is doing.

No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years

14 Nov 2016, 4:03 pm #48
(14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm)V514DFT No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years

Yeah - they occasionally amend timings, but apart from that it is a very stale network Newcastle.


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RBZ 5459
14 Nov 2016, 4:03 pm #48

(14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm)V514DFT No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years

Yeah - they occasionally amend timings, but apart from that it is a very stale network Newcastle.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Tom



6,138
14 Nov 2016, 4:08 pm #49
(14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm)V514DFT No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years

22 is a joke - absolutely shocking service. 

They should swap it with the 12 as it doesn't need a service every 10 minutes if they want to make savings (would reduce the PVR by 2 or 3) and also provide better links from Walker to Cobalt and Silverlink.
Tom
14 Nov 2016, 4:08 pm #49

(14 Nov 2016, 3:15 pm)V514DFT No i dont think its broke i just think theres something missing and tbh the 22 is a shambles now,often see then run in 2's sometimes 3's yes rush hour i can understand but when its not rush hour and somehow still get bunched together it baffles me,also road works,in which case revisions need to be made as the A1058/A19 road works are going to last just under 3 years

22 is a joke - absolutely shocking service. 

They should swap it with the 12 as it doesn't need a service every 10 minutes if they want to make savings (would reduce the PVR by 2 or 3) and also provide better links from Walker to Cobalt and Silverlink.

idiot



1,121
14 Nov 2016, 5:14 pm #50
Advertising on buses that they want feedback on the proposed changes in the Sunderland area Smile
idiot
14 Nov 2016, 5:14 pm #50

Advertising on buses that they want feedback on the proposed changes in the Sunderland area Smile

Michael



19,175
14 Nov 2016, 7:34 pm #51
(12 Nov 2016, 10:48 am)Acky81 "Sunderland bus route changes: How your service could be affected"

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/our-region...-1-8235296

A follow up was in the echo today of peoples comments on the changes:

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/our-region...-1-8236169


There's not a lot of happy people going by the comments on the Sunderland Echo's Facebook page!


Edit:

A reminder the first drop-in session, is taking place tomorrow at Sunderland City Library and Arts Centre between 11am and 2pm... the next one is on Thursday, at the same time.

I might have a pop down and say my thoughts on it.
Edited 14 Nov 2016, 7:48 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
14 Nov 2016, 7:34 pm #51

(12 Nov 2016, 10:48 am)Acky81 "Sunderland bus route changes: How your service could be affected"

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/our-region...-1-8235296

A follow up was in the echo today of peoples comments on the changes:

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/our-region...-1-8236169


There's not a lot of happy people going by the comments on the Sunderland Echo's Facebook page!


Edit:

A reminder the first drop-in session, is taking place tomorrow at Sunderland City Library and Arts Centre between 11am and 2pm... the next one is on Thursday, at the same time.

I might have a pop down and say my thoughts on it.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

14 Nov 2016, 7:49 pm #52
Like to see a stagecoach bus from boldon to sunderland instead i have to pay 4.85 for red ticket
Gnebuspro91
14 Nov 2016, 7:49 pm #52

Like to see a stagecoach bus from boldon to sunderland instead i have to pay 4.85 for red ticket

Cock Robin



2,778
14 Nov 2016, 9:31 pm #53
(14 Nov 2016, 4:03 pm)RBZ 5459 Yeah - they occasionally amend timings, but apart from that it is a very stale network Newcastle.


For stale read STABLE? Nothing wrong with that.
Cock Robin
14 Nov 2016, 9:31 pm #53

(14 Nov 2016, 4:03 pm)RBZ 5459 Yeah - they occasionally amend timings, but apart from that it is a very stale network Newcastle.


For stale read STABLE? Nothing wrong with that.

Michael



19,175
14 Nov 2016, 9:58 pm #54
(14 Nov 2016, 9:31 pm)Cock Robin For stale read STABLE? Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with the Sunderland network but they want to slaughter it.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
14 Nov 2016, 9:58 pm #54

(14 Nov 2016, 9:31 pm)Cock Robin For stale read STABLE? Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with the Sunderland network but they want to slaughter it.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,120
14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm #55
(14 Nov 2016, 9:58 pm)Michael Nothing wrong with the Sunderland network but they want to slaughter it.

Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...
Dan
14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm #55

(14 Nov 2016, 9:58 pm)Michael Nothing wrong with the Sunderland network but they want to slaughter it.

Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...

Michael



19,175
14 Nov 2016, 10:32 pm #56
(14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...

Probables be all the North East soon, but its a shame that all of a sudden after 12 or so years of no changes.. 2 sets of changes within a year.

Hence why everyone is not happy with the changes, i'm not really bothered as long as the first 18 on a weekday from Grindon will still run.

Any later start (after 8am), i can go via the town, don't mind.
Edited 14 Nov 2016, 10:54 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
14 Nov 2016, 10:32 pm #56

(14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...

Probables be all the North East soon, but its a shame that all of a sudden after 12 or so years of no changes.. 2 sets of changes within a year.

Hence why everyone is not happy with the changes, i'm not really bothered as long as the first 18 on a weekday from Grindon will still run.

Any later start (after 8am), i can go via the town, don't mind.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

14 Nov 2016, 11:03 pm #57
(14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...

I'm not convinced it will be a 'cut' overall, yes some services are being reduced but offset that with a couple of services increasing in frequency, plus the Newcastle route, the overall PVR may remain about the same.

Bizarre how many people are complaining online about the 18/19 given how few ever seem to be onboard... going from the number of comments on the Echo page and elsewhere, every bus should be overflowing with passengers!
stagecoachbusdepot
14 Nov 2016, 11:03 pm #57

(14 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm)Dan Apart from the fact it probably wasn't meeting targets in terms of profit levels, and possibly still isn't, with more cuts to come...

I'm not convinced it will be a 'cut' overall, yes some services are being reduced but offset that with a couple of services increasing in frequency, plus the Newcastle route, the overall PVR may remain about the same.

Bizarre how many people are complaining online about the 18/19 given how few ever seem to be onboard... going from the number of comments on the Echo page and elsewhere, every bus should be overflowing with passengers!

Michael



19,175
14 Nov 2016, 11:13 pm #58
(14 Nov 2016, 11:03 pm)stagecoachbusdepot I'm not convinced it will be a 'cut' overall, yes some services are being reduced but offset that with a couple of services increasing in frequency, plus the Newcastle route, the overall PVR may remain about the same.

Bizarre how many people are complaining online about the 18/19 given how few ever seem to be onboard... going from the number of comments on the Echo page and elsewhere, every bus should be overflowing with passengers!

I got the 1:44pm bus today from the bridge towards Grindon and it was busy, only a few seats left.

But i think thats harsh because not everyone will travel on that bus at the same time, i use it at different times of the day, most days of the week and it changes on a weekly bases for how many passengers is on.

This morning, i got the 6:46am bus from Grindon Lane to the bridge, it had 10 passengers on, where as on Friday, it had 3 people on.


Still think it should remain half hourly from first bus to 9am, then 3pm to last bus... during the day i don't mind, i can via the town and get the 8 or 36.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
14 Nov 2016, 11:13 pm #58

(14 Nov 2016, 11:03 pm)stagecoachbusdepot I'm not convinced it will be a 'cut' overall, yes some services are being reduced but offset that with a couple of services increasing in frequency, plus the Newcastle route, the overall PVR may remain about the same.

Bizarre how many people are complaining online about the 18/19 given how few ever seem to be onboard... going from the number of comments on the Echo page and elsewhere, every bus should be overflowing with passengers!

I got the 1:44pm bus today from the bridge towards Grindon and it was busy, only a few seats left.

But i think thats harsh because not everyone will travel on that bus at the same time, i use it at different times of the day, most days of the week and it changes on a weekly bases for how many passengers is on.

This morning, i got the 6:46am bus from Grindon Lane to the bridge, it had 10 passengers on, where as on Friday, it had 3 people on.


Still think it should remain half hourly from first bus to 9am, then 3pm to last bus... during the day i don't mind, i can via the town and get the 8 or 36.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ambassador



1,859
15 Nov 2016, 12:44 am #59
If we're honest you can't really compare Newcastle vs Sunderland in terms of network. It's like comparing Newcastle to Manchester. It's a total different kettle of fish.

Re-22 anything heading in the vague direction of Cobalt suffers from all 3 operators.

The thing with Newcastle is routes like 1, 38, 10, 11, 30/31/36, 39/40 (to name a few) are established historically successful routes serving big populations in a growing diverse city. There's very little you can change with the majority of that network unless you fiiddle with peripheral routes like the 35, 18, etc

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
15 Nov 2016, 12:44 am #59

If we're honest you can't really compare Newcastle vs Sunderland in terms of network. It's like comparing Newcastle to Manchester. It's a total different kettle of fish.

Re-22 anything heading in the vague direction of Cobalt suffers from all 3 operators.

The thing with Newcastle is routes like 1, 38, 10, 11, 30/31/36, 39/40 (to name a few) are established historically successful routes serving big populations in a growing diverse city. There's very little you can change with the majority of that network unless you fiiddle with peripheral routes like the 35, 18, etc


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Buses98



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15 Nov 2016, 3:19 pm #60
it has been noted that 22574 SP08 DDA has entered service

Prefer
7486 LJ51 DGZ
1764 NK05 GWC
5230 NK55 OLH
6301 NK16 BXA
22570 SP08 DCV
12078 NK11 DJD
FJ61 EXO
Buses98
15 Nov 2016, 3:19 pm #60

it has been noted that 22574 SP08 DDA has entered service


Prefer
7486 LJ51 DGZ
1764 NK05 GWC
5230 NK55 OLH
6301 NK16 BXA
22570 SP08 DCV
12078 NK11 DJD
FJ61 EXO

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