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Malarkey



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23 Dec 2017, 10:00 pm #401
(23 Dec 2017, 9:57 pm)S813 FVK Ok, to be more specific, he is most likely referring to the Streetlite Max.

My bad on that one, in all fairness the MAX variation is more common with Bus Operators than the Midi variation.
Malarkey
23 Dec 2017, 10:00 pm #401

(23 Dec 2017, 9:57 pm)S813 FVK Ok, to be more specific, he is most likely referring to the Streetlite Max.

My bad on that one, in all fairness the MAX variation is more common with Bus Operators than the Midi variation.

mb134



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23 Dec 2017, 10:28 pm #402
Would that Citaro qualify for the additional BSOG payments that the Streetlites do?
mb134
23 Dec 2017, 10:28 pm #402

Would that Citaro qualify for the additional BSOG payments that the Streetlites do?

S813 FVK



6,030
23 Dec 2017, 10:47 pm #403
(23 Dec 2017, 10:00 pm)Malarkey My bad on that one, in all fairness the MAX variation is more common with Bus Operators than the Midi variation.

Not you at all - I certainly never go to the extent of adding the Max when talking about Streetlites and I know that the majority of the people on this forum are exactly the same.

In other news:

The lighting is bad, but 8328 looks to have gained the 'Recharge Your Batteries' tagline following its cant rail repaint:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16042610@N...ateposted/
S813 FVK
23 Dec 2017, 10:47 pm #403

(23 Dec 2017, 10:00 pm)Malarkey My bad on that one, in all fairness the MAX variation is more common with Bus Operators than the Midi variation.

Not you at all - I certainly never go to the extent of adding the Max when talking about Streetlites and I know that the majority of the people on this forum are exactly the same.

In other news:

The lighting is bad, but 8328 looks to have gained the 'Recharge Your Batteries' tagline following its cant rail repaint:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16042610@N...ateposted/

Michael



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24 Dec 2017, 10:42 am #404
(23 Dec 2017, 8:29 pm)Malarkey Hopefully something GNE will look at in the future rather than buying Streetlites - http://www.route-one.net/articles/Techno...id_package

How much are they each?, this is Mercedes, so won't be cheap, just like when Go North East bought the other Citaro's. 



According to Wiki (Although not very reliable) - 

Mercedes-Benz is currently testing prototypes of the Citaro with all-electric drive. The bus will feature a modular battery pack design and use the same electric wheel hub motors as the Citaro G BlueTec Hybrid. It is scheduled for presentation at the IAA Commercial Vehicles show in Hanover in September 2018.
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Michael
24 Dec 2017, 10:42 am #404

(23 Dec 2017, 8:29 pm)Malarkey Hopefully something GNE will look at in the future rather than buying Streetlites - http://www.route-one.net/articles/Techno...id_package

How much are they each?, this is Mercedes, so won't be cheap, just like when Go North East bought the other Citaro's. 



According to Wiki (Although not very reliable) - 

Mercedes-Benz is currently testing prototypes of the Citaro with all-electric drive. The bus will feature a modular battery pack design and use the same electric wheel hub motors as the Citaro G BlueTec Hybrid. It is scheduled for presentation at the IAA Commercial Vehicles show in Hanover in September 2018.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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24 Dec 2017, 11:06 am #405
There are no Volvo B5LH / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2s out on the Coaster today as both are currently parked up in the corner at the depot.
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Rapidsnap
24 Dec 2017, 11:06 am #405

There are no Volvo B5LH / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2s out on the Coaster today as both are currently parked up in the corner at the depot.

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cbma06



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24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm #406
GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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cbma06
24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm #406

GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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24 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm #407
(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.

Was later posted "Service 59 will be back in operation from 10:30am at Durham Bus Station"
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Jimmi
24 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm #407

(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.

Was later posted "Service 59 will be back in operation from 10:30am at Durham Bus Station"

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cbma06



2,669
24 Dec 2017, 12:28 pm #408
(24 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm)Jimmi Was later posted "Service 59 will be back in operation from 10:30am at Durham Bus Station"


But the first journey would of been missed with potential passengers, that’s why I was wondering if GNE would be fined for non operational first journey.


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cbma06
24 Dec 2017, 12:28 pm #408

(24 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm)Jimmi Was later posted "Service 59 will be back in operation from 10:30am at Durham Bus Station"


But the first journey would of been missed with potential passengers, that’s why I was wondering if GNE would be fined for non operational first journey.


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Jamie M

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24 Dec 2017, 12:44 pm #409
I would hope not if it wad just one or two trips and seldom before.

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Jamie M
24 Dec 2017, 12:44 pm #409

I would hope not if it wad just one or two trips and seldom before.

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Ianthegoon



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24 Dec 2017, 12:58 pm #410
(24 Dec 2017, 12:44 pm)Jamie M I would hope not if it wad just one or two trips and seldom before.

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Given that it runs every two hours, that's one hell of a wait to inflict on an intending passenger ....
Ianthegoon
24 Dec 2017, 12:58 pm #410

(24 Dec 2017, 12:44 pm)Jamie M I would hope not if it wad just one or two trips and seldom before.

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Given that it runs every two hours, that's one hell of a wait to inflict on an intending passenger ....

Jamie M

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24 Dec 2017, 2:40 pm #411
Why would you want sanctions imposed if the bigger shows nearly 100% reliability (I'm guessing so since I've never even heard of the service until now)

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Jamie M
24 Dec 2017, 2:40 pm #411

Why would you want sanctions imposed if the bigger shows nearly 100% reliability (I'm guessing so since I've never even heard of the service until now)

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24 Dec 2017, 3:06 pm #412
(24 Dec 2017, 2:40 pm)Jamie M Why would you want sanctions imposed if the bigger shows nearly 100% reliability (I'm guessing so since I've never even heard of the service until now)

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Terms of contract perhaps?
Similar fines/financial clawbacks were imposed when DB were running the metro.

Discourages non-compliance and is supposed to help towards maintaining the required standard of service - whether it be down to technical failure or a non-compliant vehicle.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Dec 2017, 3:06 pm #412

(24 Dec 2017, 2:40 pm)Jamie M Why would you want sanctions imposed if the bigger shows nearly 100% reliability (I'm guessing so since I've never even heard of the service until now)

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Terms of contract perhaps?
Similar fines/financial clawbacks were imposed when DB were running the metro.

Discourages non-compliance and is supposed to help towards maintaining the required standard of service - whether it be down to technical failure or a non-compliant vehicle.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

BusLoverMum



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24 Dec 2017, 3:35 pm #413
(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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No idea, but some people might be stuffed. A few people rely on it to get to work.
BusLoverMum
24 Dec 2017, 3:35 pm #413

(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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No idea, but some people might be stuffed. A few people rely on it to get to work.

2bagstew



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24 Dec 2017, 4:04 pm #414
It’s paid for with Country Councillors money so yes I would think they would be fined if they inform DCC.


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2bagstew
24 Dec 2017, 4:04 pm #414

It’s paid for with Country Councillors money so yes I would think they would be fined if they inform DCC.


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busmanT



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24 Dec 2017, 8:17 pm #415
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(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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Yes, Durham County Council contracts have a lost mileage penalty arrangement built into them, non operation will be reported to DCC as lost mileage.
busmanT
24 Dec 2017, 8:17 pm #415

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(24 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm)cbma06 GNE status “Service 59 is not currently operating due to technical issues, please accept our apologies.”, will go north east be fined by not operating the contract ?.


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Yes, Durham County Council contracts have a lost mileage penalty arrangement built into them, non operation will be reported to DCC as lost mileage.

Malarkey



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25 Dec 2017, 6:53 pm #416
(21 Dec 2017, 6:48 am)Dan Cathedral Bus livery has nothing to do with Go North East (or previous operators of the service) - it is specified within the contract that Durham County Council will provide a livery for vehicles operating the service. If no livery is provided, the operator is welcome to use their own fleet livery.

The Scania L94 would have been route-learning the new H1 service, which will be operated by Deptford.


Much the same as last year (or a normal Sunday service).

9 - Prince Bishops Streetlite
20 - Fab56/Fleet livery B9TL
35A - Prince Bishops Streetlite
47 - Red Kite B9TL or Fleet livery OmniDekka
60 - Prince Bishops Streetlite
61 - Black Cats Streetlite
88 - Fleet livery Versa
M6 - Diamond Streetlite (interworks with 6/X30 as normal Sunday)
X5 - Black Cats Streetlite
X21 - Angel Hybrid/StreetDeck
X30 - Diamond Streetlite (interworks with 6/M6 as normal Sunday)

All other allocations are the correct branded vehicle.

Some late evening journeys will be operated by different depots, like last year.

Any idea which journeys these are?
Malarkey
25 Dec 2017, 6:53 pm #416

(21 Dec 2017, 6:48 am)Dan Cathedral Bus livery has nothing to do with Go North East (or previous operators of the service) - it is specified within the contract that Durham County Council will provide a livery for vehicles operating the service. If no livery is provided, the operator is welcome to use their own fleet livery.

The Scania L94 would have been route-learning the new H1 service, which will be operated by Deptford.


Much the same as last year (or a normal Sunday service).

9 - Prince Bishops Streetlite
20 - Fab56/Fleet livery B9TL
35A - Prince Bishops Streetlite
47 - Red Kite B9TL or Fleet livery OmniDekka
60 - Prince Bishops Streetlite
61 - Black Cats Streetlite
88 - Fleet livery Versa
M6 - Diamond Streetlite (interworks with 6/X30 as normal Sunday)
X5 - Black Cats Streetlite
X21 - Angel Hybrid/StreetDeck
X30 - Diamond Streetlite (interworks with 6/M6 as normal Sunday)

All other allocations are the correct branded vehicle.

Some late evening journeys will be operated by different depots, like last year.

Any idea which journeys these are?

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25 Dec 2017, 7:04 pm #417
Is the X10 running tomorrow


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25 Dec 2017, 7:04 pm #417

Is the X10 running tomorrow


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25 Dec 2017, 7:10 pm #418
(25 Dec 2017, 7:04 pm)TEN 6083 Is the X10 running tomorrow


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No, full details on buses running tomorrow are available at gonortheast.co.uk.
omnicity4659
25 Dec 2017, 7:10 pm #418

(25 Dec 2017, 7:04 pm)TEN 6083 Is the X10 running tomorrow


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No, full details on buses running tomorrow are available at gonortheast.co.uk.

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25 Dec 2017, 9:34 pm #419
If the 309/310 run next year, would it be likely that they would be operated using Coaster B5LHs instead of B9TLs due to the fuel savings as well as BSOG payments?
L469 YVK
25 Dec 2017, 9:34 pm #419

If the 309/310 run next year, would it be likely that they would be operated using Coaster B5LHs instead of B9TLs due to the fuel savings as well as BSOG payments?

Michael



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26 Dec 2017, 10:39 am #420
Spotted this on VOSA's email last week:

PB0002400 SN Licence surrendered WEF 16 December 2017
GO NORTHERN LTD
Director(s): KEVIN CARR, DAVID CURRY, Alexander Paul Edwards, GEORGE COLIN MCPHERSON, DAVID ALLEN BROWN, SIMON PATRICK BUTCHER
117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
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Michael
26 Dec 2017, 10:39 am #420

Spotted this on VOSA's email last week:

PB0002400 SN Licence surrendered WEF 16 December 2017
GO NORTHERN LTD
Director(s): KEVIN CARR, DAVID CURRY, Alexander Paul Edwards, GEORGE COLIN MCPHERSON, DAVID ALLEN BROWN, SIMON PATRICK BUTCHER
117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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