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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2019

 
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Cock Robin



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02 Nov 2019, 2:22 pm #1
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(30 Oct 2019, 3:31 pm)Ryland <p>Query about redcar allocations

For the past 3 days 63 branded pulsars have been allocated onto the 62 ? Seems to be at least 2 on there each day</p><p><br></p><p>Any reason why&nbsp;</p>

Apparently its because its more expensive to replace smashed windows on Temsas so they're using Pulsars on the boards that stay out all night.
Cock Robin
02 Nov 2019, 2:22 pm #1

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(30 Oct 2019, 3:31 pm)Ryland <p>Query about redcar allocations

For the past 3 days 63 branded pulsars have been allocated onto the 62 ? Seems to be at least 2 on there each day</p><p><br></p><p>Any reason why&nbsp;</p>

Apparently its because its more expensive to replace smashed windows on Temsas so they're using Pulsars on the boards that stay out all night.

S830OFT



1,395
02 Nov 2019, 9:48 pm #2
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(02 Nov 2019, 2:22 pm)Cock Robin Apparently its because its more expensive to replace smashed windows on Temsas so they're using Pulsars on the boards that stay out all night.

</p><p>If it's happening every night or as frequent as you suggest, could they not just take the evening service off and advise people to just use a&nbsp;train or taxi...</p>


S830OFT
02 Nov 2019, 9:48 pm #2

<p>

(02 Nov 2019, 2:22 pm)Cock Robin Apparently its because its more expensive to replace smashed windows on Temsas so they're using Pulsars on the boards that stay out all night.

</p><p>If it's happening every night or as frequent as you suggest, could they not just take the evening service off and advise people to just use a&nbsp;train or taxi...</p>



03 Nov 2019, 9:13 am #3
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(02 Nov 2019, 9:48 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>If it's happening every night or as frequent as you suggest, could they not just take the evening service off and advise people to just use a&nbsp;train or taxi...</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>Because then that makes not only the company lose out, but also the people who can't afford to use the train or taxi.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
omnicity4659
03 Nov 2019, 9:13 am #3

<p>

(02 Nov 2019, 9:48 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>If it's happening every night or as frequent as you suggest, could they not just take the evening service off and advise people to just use a&nbsp;train or taxi...</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>Because then that makes not only the company lose out, but also the people who can't afford to use the train or taxi.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

Kuyoyo



6,853
03 Nov 2019, 9:35 am #4
With the end of the Summer X93 timetable last night, two of Redcar's B7s will be going on their winter holidays to Durham later today, with two of Durham's Pulsars moving to Stockton for the additional PVR resources with the temporary winter interworking pattern at the depot (as of last Monday, 9/17/17a interwork Monday to Saturday and an additional vehicle has been added to 8s on weekdays).
Kuyoyo
03 Nov 2019, 9:35 am #4

With the end of the Summer X93 timetable last night, two of Redcar's B7s will be going on their winter holidays to Durham later today, with two of Durham's Pulsars moving to Stockton for the additional PVR resources with the temporary winter interworking pattern at the depot (as of last Monday, 9/17/17a interwork Monday to Saturday and an additional vehicle has been added to 8s on weekdays).

GNE6312



1,091
03 Nov 2019, 9:37 am #5
<p>Are arriva doing a poppy bus this year as I haven't seen one year and it would be out by now</p>
GNE6312
03 Nov 2019, 9:37 am #5

<p>Are arriva doing a poppy bus this year as I haven't seen one year and it would be out by now</p>

S830OFT



1,395
03 Nov 2019, 12:13 pm #6
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(03 Nov 2019, 9:35 am)Kuyoyo With the end of the Summer X93 timetable last night, two of Redcar's B7s will be going on their winter holidays to Durham later today, with two of Durham's Pulsars moving to Stockton for the additional PVR resources with the temporary winter interworking pattern at the depot (as of last Monday, 9/17/17a interwork Monday to Saturday and an additional vehicle has been added to 8s on weekdays).

</p><p>Will 7609/7610 remain at Redcar to replace 1759/4516?</p>


S830OFT
03 Nov 2019, 12:13 pm #6

<p>

(03 Nov 2019, 9:35 am)Kuyoyo With the end of the Summer X93 timetable last night, two of Redcar's B7s will be going on their winter holidays to Durham later today, with two of Durham's Pulsars moving to Stockton for the additional PVR resources with the temporary winter interworking pattern at the depot (as of last Monday, 9/17/17a interwork Monday to Saturday and an additional vehicle has been added to 8s on weekdays).

</p><p>Will 7609/7610 remain at Redcar to replace 1759/4516?</p>



Kuyoyo



6,853
03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm #7
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(03 Nov 2019, 12:13 pm)S830OFT </p><p></p><p>Will 7609/7610 remain at Redcar to replace 1759/4516?</p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p>
Kuyoyo
03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm #7

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(03 Nov 2019, 12:13 pm)S830OFT </p><p></p><p>Will 7609/7610 remain at Redcar to replace 1759/4516?</p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p>

S830OFT



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03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm #8
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(03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm)Kuyoyo </p><p></p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p><p>

</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p>

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(03 Nov 2019, 9:13 am)omnicity4659 </p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because then that makes not only the company lose out, but also the people who can't afford to use the train or taxi.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>

</p><p>I'm sure Arriva would put the safety of everybody on the bus before revenue. Arriva could introduce a Day Ticket between Redcar and Middlesbrough for both Train &amp; Bus, that way bus services alike the 64A can see their last journeys withdrawn, it is simply unaffordable in any form to continue running buses when the windows are smashed on a frequent basis. Additionally on top of this it must clearly be causing anxiety &amp; stress for drivers &amp; passengers who are being made victims of this through no fault of their own...</p>
Edited 03 Nov 2019, 1:03 pm by S830OFT.


S830OFT
03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm #8

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(03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm)Kuyoyo </p><p></p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p><p>

</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p>

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(03 Nov 2019, 9:13 am)omnicity4659 </p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because then that makes not only the company lose out, but also the people who can't afford to use the train or taxi.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>

</p><p>I'm sure Arriva would put the safety of everybody on the bus before revenue. Arriva could introduce a Day Ticket between Redcar and Middlesbrough for both Train &amp; Bus, that way bus services alike the 64A can see their last journeys withdrawn, it is simply unaffordable in any form to continue running buses when the windows are smashed on a frequent basis. Additionally on top of this it must clearly be causing anxiety &amp; stress for drivers &amp; passengers who are being made victims of this through no fault of their own...</p>



Kuyoyo



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03 Nov 2019, 1:12 pm #9
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(03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because it’s not due to undergo an MOT between now and Christmas - which is when they should return to Durham.</p>
Kuyoyo
03 Nov 2019, 1:12 pm #9

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(03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because it’s not due to undergo an MOT between now and Christmas - which is when they should return to Durham.</p>

03 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm #10
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(03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p><p>

</p><p>
</p><p>I'm sure Arriva would put the safety of everybody on the bus before revenue. Arriva could introduce a Day Ticket between Redcar and Middlesbrough for both Train &amp; Bus, that way bus services alike the 64A can see their last journeys withdrawn, it is simply unaffordable in any form to continue running buses when the windows are smashed on a frequent basis. Additionally on top of this it must clearly be causing anxiety &amp; stress for drivers &amp; passengers who are being made victims of this through no fault of their own...</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>Because people should walk up to two miles from South Bank to Normanby? Two miles being half the walk from Middlesbrough!<br><br>Pay more for a bus and train ticket...and walk most the route!</p>
Edited 03 Nov 2019, 2:44 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
03 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm #10

<p>

(03 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm)S830OFT </p><p>
</p><p>What's the purpose of sending 1413 to Stockton when it's branded for Sapphire 22/23/24???</p><p>

</p><p>
</p><p>I'm sure Arriva would put the safety of everybody on the bus before revenue. Arriva could introduce a Day Ticket between Redcar and Middlesbrough for both Train &amp; Bus, that way bus services alike the 64A can see their last journeys withdrawn, it is simply unaffordable in any form to continue running buses when the windows are smashed on a frequent basis. Additionally on top of this it must clearly be causing anxiety &amp; stress for drivers &amp; passengers who are being made victims of this through no fault of their own...</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>Because people should walk up to two miles from South Bank to Normanby? Two miles being half the walk from Middlesbrough!<br><br>Pay more for a bus and train ticket...and walk most the route!</p>

Kuyoyo



6,853
03 Nov 2019, 4:43 pm #11
<p>F1 running in Stockton for the first time this year and the allocation is:&nbsp;</p><p>1413&nbsp;</p><p>1421&nbsp;</p><p>1423</p><p>1454</p><p>1460</p><p>1463</p>
Kuyoyo
03 Nov 2019, 4:43 pm #11

<p>F1 running in Stockton for the first time this year and the allocation is:&nbsp;</p><p>1413&nbsp;</p><p>1421&nbsp;</p><p>1423</p><p>1454</p><p>1460</p><p>1463</p>

Cock Robin



2,778
03 Nov 2019, 7:09 pm #12
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(03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm)Kuyoyo <p></p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p>

4516 is supposed to be getting converted to driver trainer.

(03 Nov 2019, 1:12 pm)Kuyoyo <p></p><p><br></p><p>Because it’s not due to undergo an MOT between now and Christmas - which is when they should return to Durham.</p>

So every unbranded Durham Pulsar is due an MOT between now and Xmas?

Edited 03 Nov 2019, 7:12 pm by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
03 Nov 2019, 7:09 pm #12

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(03 Nov 2019, 12:45 pm)Kuyoyo <p></p><p><br></p><p>1759 and 4516 are going nowhere - they are required as part of Redcar’s PVR.</p><p>7609/10 will be spare until the spring - likely find them on 62s or covering for the B9s on X93s (the B9s will be due their MOTs in the new year).</p><p><br></p><p>Meanwhile, supposed to be 7424/5 moving to Durham in exchange for 1413/63 heading to Stockton - although I understand that 7424 was VOR in the depot yesterday so that one might be subject to change</p>

4516 is supposed to be getting converted to driver trainer.

(03 Nov 2019, 1:12 pm)Kuyoyo <p></p><p><br></p><p>Because it’s not due to undergo an MOT between now and Christmas - which is when they should return to Durham.</p>

So every unbranded Durham Pulsar is due an MOT between now and Xmas?

Cock Robin



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03 Nov 2019, 7:45 pm #13
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(03 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm)omnicity4659 <p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because people should walk up to two miles from South Bank to Normanby? Two miles being half the walk from Middlesbrough!<br><br>Pay more for a bus and train ticket...and walk most the route!</p>

Well said Omnicity. Trains a lot of good to someone in Eston.
Cock Robin
03 Nov 2019, 7:45 pm #13

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(03 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm)omnicity4659 <p>
</p><p><br></p><p>Because people should walk up to two miles from South Bank to Normanby? Two miles being half the walk from Middlesbrough!<br><br>Pay more for a bus and train ticket...and walk most the route!</p>

Well said Omnicity. Trains a lot of good to someone in Eston.

04 Nov 2019, 3:25 pm #14
There has been a crash involving a bus on the 23 today apparently. Give any details to what bus was involved if possible please
Citaro5338
04 Nov 2019, 3:25 pm #14

There has been a crash involving a bus on the 23 today apparently. Give any details to what bus was involved if possible please

S830OFT



1,395
04 Nov 2019, 6:39 pm #15
1597 was on ED4 tonight.
It interworks off the 16:44 23 from Hartlepool.


S830OFT
04 Nov 2019, 6:39 pm #15

1597 was on ED4 tonight.
It interworks off the 16:44 23 from Hartlepool.



Ryland



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04 Nov 2019, 6:41 pm #16
Seen a photo on flicker tonight of 1561 with the engine taken put can anyone confirm if it was a recent photo or is it an old shot
Ryland
04 Nov 2019, 6:41 pm #16

Seen a photo on flicker tonight of 1561 with the engine taken put can anyone confirm if it was a recent photo or is it an old shot

S830OFT



1,395
04 Nov 2019, 6:58 pm #17
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(04 Nov 2019, 6:41 pm)Ryland Seen a photo on flicker tonight of 1561 with the engine taken put can anyone confirm if it was a recent photo or is it an old shot

</p><p>It's a recent picture, 1561 has been off road since 27th September...</p>


S830OFT
04 Nov 2019, 6:58 pm #17

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(04 Nov 2019, 6:41 pm)Ryland Seen a photo on flicker tonight of 1561 with the engine taken put can anyone confirm if it was a recent photo or is it an old shot

</p><p>It's a recent picture, 1561 has been off road since 27th September...</p>



Kuyoyo



6,853
06 Nov 2019, 12:22 pm #18
1413 has gone back to Durham after a brief appearance in use at Stockton on Sunday (doing the Park & Ride, a duplicate X12 direct to Middlesbrough and covering the 2015 5 out of the Bus Station as far as half way down Borough Road where it ended up with a flat tyre), and it appears from Bus Times that 1473 has come in its place.
Kuyoyo
06 Nov 2019, 12:22 pm #18

1413 has gone back to Durham after a brief appearance in use at Stockton on Sunday (doing the Park & Ride, a duplicate X12 direct to Middlesbrough and covering the 2015 5 out of the Bus Station as far as half way down Borough Road where it ended up with a flat tyre), and it appears from Bus Times that 1473 has come in its place.

OW1762



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09 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm #19
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(03 Nov 2019, 9:37 am)GNE6312 </p><p>Are arriva doing a poppy bus this year as I haven't seen one year and it would be out by now</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>I haven't seen a poppy branded bus but some of the arriva buses in Durham have poppy stickers on the front next to the arriva badge or the wright badge.</p>
OW1762
09 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm #19

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(03 Nov 2019, 9:37 am)GNE6312 </p><p>Are arriva doing a poppy bus this year as I haven't seen one year and it would be out by now</p><p>

</p><p><br></p><p>I haven't seen a poppy branded bus but some of the arriva buses in Durham have poppy stickers on the front next to the arriva badge or the wright badge.</p>

Cock Robin



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09 Nov 2019, 8:16 pm #20
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(09 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm)OW1762 <p>
</p><p><br></p><p>I haven't seen a poppy branded bus but some of the arriva buses in Durham have poppy stickers on the front next to the arriva badge or the wright badge.</p>

Same with Redcar, Stockton, Darlington.
Cock Robin
09 Nov 2019, 8:16 pm #20

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(09 Nov 2019, 2:43 pm)OW1762 <p>
</p><p><br></p><p>I haven't seen a poppy branded bus but some of the arriva buses in Durham have poppy stickers on the front next to the arriva badge or the wright badge.</p>

Same with Redcar, Stockton, Darlington.

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