Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Passing redcar depot today 2 streetlites facing the the gate and 1 Decker
4 whitby deckers were also there too

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(02 Feb 2020, 4:53 pm)Ryland Wrote: Passing redcar depot today 2 streetlites facing the the gate and 1 Decker
4 whitby deckers were also there too

5 deckers? You sure?

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Has 7609 left Blyth and been transferred

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(08 Feb 2020, 11:11 pm)Citaro5338 Wrote: Has 7609 left Blyth and been transferred
It is now back at redcar depot along with sister 7610 and a couple more of Whitby fleet

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Seen this on Facebook 

Any ideas on whether or not the 81 is here to stay or we going to loose it

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(09 Feb 2020, 3:41 pm)Ryland Wrote: Seen this on Facebook 

Any ideas on whether or not the 81 is here to stay or we going to loose it
It will only run between Marske and Guisborough from April.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
What's replacing the Guisborough to Stokesley section?



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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(09 Feb 2020, 7:16 pm)S830OFT Wrote: What's replacing the Guisborough to Stokesley section?

Nothing

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Service 81
So what is going to happen to Arriva 81 services between Guisborough and Stokesley? Sure there is some demand.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Why? Surely there is some demand.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(09 Feb 2020, 8:35 pm)scanialover Wrote: Why? Surely there is some demand.
Obviously not enough.

The 28A will still run through Great Ayton and Stokesley. Only Newton under Rosebery will completely lose service.

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RE: Service 81
(09 Feb 2020, 8:32 pm)scanialover Wrote: So what is going to happen to Arriva 81 services between Guisborough and Stokesley? Sure there is some demand.
As I replied in the other thread, there is obviously not enough demand.

Whenever I've seen the 81 in this section, it's absolutely dead. Not surprisingly it's coming off.

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RE: Service 81
Just been talking about it on BBC Tees

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Just been talking about it on BBC Tees. Arriva reckon the change hasn't been registered yet and they're still on discussion but the council spokesman didn't sound very hopeful.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
The rational behind a decision, apart from the fact that Arriva are only interested in the financial aspect, beats me. Those wishing to travel from Guisborough through to Stokesley will have to travel into Middlesbrough will the corresponding increases in both travelling time and cost. I guess, at the end of the day passenger numbers dictate?

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(10 Feb 2020, 11:40 am)scanialover Wrote: The rational behind a decision, apart from the fact that Arriva are only interested in the financial aspect, beats me. Those wishing to travel from Guisborough through to Stokesley will have to travel into Middlesbrough will the corresponding increases in both travelling time and cost. I guess, at the end of the day passenger numbers dictate?

Of which there are very few - hence why it's being culled.
The cut also reduces the 81 PVR by one vehicle (understand the proposal is for the daytime journeys to operate a one-way loop round Hunters Hill, with the peak time journeys carrying on as now to Hutton Gate). From what I've heard round and about, Redcar's PVR is set to drop by 5 in April.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Thanks for that. Interesting that the PVR @ Redcar is to be reduced but then surely it's time to examine the demand on services 63 and 64/64a. How many times do we see these running in tandem? OK it's.difficult to operate a sustainable timetable to meet demand but surely something needs to be done.

What is service X94 that I've seen mentioned?

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(10 Feb 2020, 12:00 pm)scanialover Wrote: Thanks for that. Interesting that the PVR @ Redcar is to be reduced but then surely it's time to examine the demand on services 63 and 64/64a. How many times do we see these running in tandem? OK it's.difficult to operate a sustainable timetable to meet demand but surely something needs to be done.

What is service X94 that I've seen mentioned?
I'm pretty sure the 63 wouldn't be every 10 minutes if demand didn't exist for it. Don't forget, the operators have all of the data available at their fingertips to make this decision on.

I understand that Service 64/64A will also see a reduced frequency from April.

(10 Feb 2020, 11:40 am)scanialover Wrote: The rational behind a decision, apart from the fact that Arriva are only interested in the financial aspect, beats me. Those wishing to travel from Guisborough through to Stokesley will have to travel into Middlesbrough will the corresponding increases in both travelling time and cost. I guess, at the end of the day passenger numbers dictate?
There is an opportunity to change at Swans Corner, between Service 5/5A and 28A, avoiding the need to go into Middlesbrough.

As long as bus companies are private, they will only be interested in the financial side of things, they are a business. No business would last very long if they made long term losses.

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RE: Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
2 VDLS on 685 this afternoon passing in Brampton - one doing the afternoon double decker roundtrip no doubt due to the high winds.