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Adrian



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04 Feb 2022, 9:26 am #201
(03 Feb 2022, 12:12 pm)ne14ne1 Cardiff Bus has just taken delivery of some Yutongs. Is GNE’s next batch going to be the longer wheel-based version like Cardiff’s?
https://twitter.com/busandtrainuser/stat...51010?s=21

Also, note the upside down road-strips on the livery. #CreatingRepetition Wink

Not the same, man... they're the other way up and at a different angle! Cardiff and District Violet? Big Grin  


[Image: 51731671698_cf894f3739.jpg]
Go North East 5327 / NK58 DWE by kieron mathews, on Flickr

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Adrian
04 Feb 2022, 9:26 am #201

(03 Feb 2022, 12:12 pm)ne14ne1 Cardiff Bus has just taken delivery of some Yutongs. Is GNE’s next batch going to be the longer wheel-based version like Cardiff’s?
https://twitter.com/busandtrainuser/stat...51010?s=21

Also, note the upside down road-strips on the livery. #CreatingRepetition Wink

Not the same, man... they're the other way up and at a different angle! Cardiff and District Violet? Big Grin  


[Image: 51731671698_cf894f3739.jpg]
Go North East 5327 / NK58 DWE by kieron mathews, on Flickr


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Andreos1



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04 Feb 2022, 10:14 am #202
(04 Feb 2022, 9:26 am)Adrian Not the same, man... they're the other way up and at a different angle! Cardiff and District Violet? Big Grin  


[Image: 51731671698_cf894f3739.jpg]
Go North East 5327 / NK58 DWE by kieron mathews, on Flickr
I knew I'd seen that Cardiff bus somewhere before!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
04 Feb 2022, 10:14 am #202

(04 Feb 2022, 9:26 am)Adrian Not the same, man... they're the other way up and at a different angle! Cardiff and District Violet? Big Grin  


[Image: 51731671698_cf894f3739.jpg]
Go North East 5327 / NK58 DWE by kieron mathews, on Flickr
I knew I'd seen that Cardiff bus somewhere before!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Adrian



9,583
04 Feb 2022, 10:23 am #203
(04 Feb 2022, 10:14 am)Andreos1 I knew I'd seen that Cardiff bus somewhere before!

https://twitter.com/creatingdesire/statu...2333359115

How many buzzwords can you fit into 280 characters?

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Adrian
04 Feb 2022, 10:23 am #203

(04 Feb 2022, 10:14 am)Andreos1 I knew I'd seen that Cardiff bus somewhere before!

https://twitter.com/creatingdesire/statu...2333359115

How many buzzwords can you fit into 280 characters?


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Omega54



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04 Feb 2022, 11:37 am #204
(04 Feb 2022, 10:23 am)Adrian https://twitter.com/creatingdesire/statu...2333359115

How many buzzwords can you fit into 280 characters?
It everything is carefully considered then look at the half-arsed Sunderland & District Branding or Coaster. 

The road strips on the E12 don't even look that nice.
Omega54
04 Feb 2022, 11:37 am #204

(04 Feb 2022, 10:23 am)Adrian https://twitter.com/creatingdesire/statu...2333359115

How many buzzwords can you fit into 280 characters?
It everything is carefully considered then look at the half-arsed Sunderland & District Branding or Coaster. 

The road strips on the E12 don't even look that nice.

Ambassador



1,855
04 Feb 2022, 12:06 pm #205
Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.

Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Feb 2022, 12:06 pm #205

Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.

Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

04 Feb 2022, 12:33 pm #206
The rise in identikit branding is probably something to do with him having to let go of his decent graphic designers, he's not capable of anything beyond basic shapes, simplistic wordmarks and naff colour schemes.

I've spoken to commercial and marketing teams from other bus companies who wouldn't go back to him.
omnicity4659
04 Feb 2022, 12:33 pm #206

The rise in identikit branding is probably something to do with him having to let go of his decent graphic designers, he's not capable of anything beyond basic shapes, simplistic wordmarks and naff colour schemes.

I've spoken to commercial and marketing teams from other bus companies who wouldn't go back to him.

busmanT



933
04 Feb 2022, 12:51 pm #207
(04 Feb 2022, 12:06 pm)Ambassador Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.

Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....

It will reduce the amount of repainting that needs doing if Go Ahead and First Bus ever merge!
busmanT
04 Feb 2022, 12:51 pm #207

(04 Feb 2022, 12:06 pm)Ambassador Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.

Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....

It will reduce the amount of repainting that needs doing if Go Ahead and First Bus ever merge!

DeltaMan



560
04 Feb 2022, 12:59 pm #208
I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no
DeltaMan
04 Feb 2022, 12:59 pm #208

I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no

Chris 1



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04 Feb 2022, 1:15 pm #209
(03 Feb 2022, 1:32 pm)Omega54 i thought they were going to be the same length as the current ones which GNE already have. As GNE rarely gets anything over 11.5m and the E12 are 12.1m.

The Streetlight doesn't come in a 12m variant, neither did the Versa before that.  Previous 'full size' single decker Citaros, Solars & Renowns all came it at 12m or therabouts, so GNE are happy with that length if available.

The previous batches 2 of new vehicles purchased for the 53/54 services were all of the shorter variants - the Versa at 11.1m at Streetlight at 10.8m.  They subsequently went on to buy longer versions for other routes, so the E12 variant might not be a bad shout.
Chris 1
04 Feb 2022, 1:15 pm #209

(03 Feb 2022, 1:32 pm)Omega54 i thought they were going to be the same length as the current ones which GNE already have. As GNE rarely gets anything over 11.5m and the E12 are 12.1m.

The Streetlight doesn't come in a 12m variant, neither did the Versa before that.  Previous 'full size' single decker Citaros, Solars & Renowns all came it at 12m or therabouts, so GNE are happy with that length if available.

The previous batches 2 of new vehicles purchased for the 53/54 services were all of the shorter variants - the Versa at 11.1m at Streetlight at 10.8m.  They subsequently went on to buy longer versions for other routes, so the E12 variant might not be a bad shout.

Ambassador



1,855
04 Feb 2022, 3:02 pm #210
(04 Feb 2022, 12:59 pm)DeltaMan I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no
Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Feb 2022, 3:02 pm #210

(04 Feb 2022, 12:59 pm)DeltaMan I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no
Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

IRHardy



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06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am #211
(04 Feb 2022, 3:02 pm)Ambassador Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!
But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink
IRHardy
06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am #211

(04 Feb 2022, 3:02 pm)Ambassador Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!
But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink

ne14ne1



1,514
06 Feb 2022, 10:56 am #212
(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink

They were like that because it was mainly painted liveries. Smart unified and simple.
They didn’t have the same vinyl/graphic design/printing tech as we do today.
ne14ne1
06 Feb 2022, 10:56 am #212

(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink

They were like that because it was mainly painted liveries. Smart unified and simple.
They didn’t have the same vinyl/graphic design/printing tech as we do today.

Bazza



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06 Feb 2022, 11:01 am #213
(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink

Not sure how all these different brands add to the customer experience though.
Bazza
06 Feb 2022, 11:01 am #213

(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back toWink

Not sure how all these different brands add to the customer experience though.

DeltaMan



560
08 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm #214
Wow

https://twitter.com/NoConceptOfTime/stat...70659?s=20&t=TDpFmiu-3b0maO1bOOgCaw
DeltaMan
08 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm #214

Wow

https://twitter.com/NoConceptOfTime/stat...70659?s=20&t=TDpFmiu-3b0maO1bOOgCaw

08 Feb 2022, 6:42 pm #215
One way around this, put a load of Solar Panels about 16ft to 18ft high off the surface off the depot yard, therefore they can double up as a source of electricity and undercover storage for the buses.

Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.
Rapidsnap
08 Feb 2022, 6:42 pm #215

One way around this, put a load of Solar Panels about 16ft to 18ft high off the surface off the depot yard, therefore they can double up as a source of electricity and undercover storage for the buses.


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

Adrian



9,583
08 Feb 2022, 7:37 pm #216
(08 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm)DeltaMan Wow

https://twitter.com/NoConceptOfTime/stat...70659?s=20&t=TDpFmiu-3b0maO1bOOgCaw

Looking through the thread, he's tweeted that to get a political response, as he later admits its not something they'd consider.

I don't think it's a bad move either. He's probably got the response he wanted, but it'll be interesting to see if the Scottish Government can step in where the UK Government refuse to.

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Adrian
08 Feb 2022, 7:37 pm #216

(08 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm)DeltaMan Wow

https://twitter.com/NoConceptOfTime/stat...70659?s=20&t=TDpFmiu-3b0maO1bOOgCaw

Looking through the thread, he's tweeted that to get a political response, as he later admits its not something they'd consider.

I don't think it's a bad move either. He's probably got the response he wanted, but it'll be interesting to see if the Scottish Government can step in where the UK Government refuse to.


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ne14ne1



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22 Feb 2022, 1:58 pm #217
A Newport EV topping up at Riverside:

https://twitter.com/adamsnephotos/status...61633?s=21
ne14ne1
22 Feb 2022, 1:58 pm #217

A Newport EV topping up at Riverside:

https://twitter.com/adamsnephotos/status...61633?s=21

ne14ne1



1,514
24 Feb 2022, 4:21 pm #218
“Go North East - Electroliner” on trial:

https://flic.kr/p/2n5moA1

https://flic.kr/p/2n5o58i
ne14ne1
24 Feb 2022, 4:21 pm #218

“Go North East - Electroliner” on trial:

https://flic.kr/p/2n5moA1

https://flic.kr/p/2n5o58i

24 Feb 2022, 4:48 pm #219
(24 Feb 2022, 4:21 pm)ne14ne1 “Go North East - Electroliner” on trial:

https://flic.kr/p/2n5moA1

https://flic.kr/p/2n5o58i

As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different
streetdeckfan
24 Feb 2022, 4:48 pm #219

(24 Feb 2022, 4:21 pm)ne14ne1 “Go North East - Electroliner” on trial:

https://flic.kr/p/2n5moA1

https://flic.kr/p/2n5o58i

As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different

Andreos1



14,218
24 Feb 2022, 4:49 pm #220
(24 Feb 2022, 4:48 pm)streetdeckfan As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different
They could get Stenning to work his magic and make it look different.
Oh... On second thoughts. Maybe not.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Feb 2022, 4:49 pm #220

(24 Feb 2022, 4:48 pm)streetdeckfan As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different
They could get Stenning to work his magic and make it look different.
Oh... On second thoughts. Maybe not.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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