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Adrian



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07 Mar 2022, 3:58 pm #261
(07 Mar 2022, 3:42 pm)ne14ne1 Doesn’t look like the rear doors were used at all throughout that video. 
Surely a standard height curb is suitable? It is elsewhere in the country for buses with separate exit doors. 

What does the old bus stop flag sticker say, just out of interest?

When the 21 was previously dual-door operation, several stops en-route had a pink 2X sticker added to the bus stop flag pole, to indicate that they weren't suitable for the rear doors to be used. Some are more obvious than others, e.g. the shelter or railings being in the way.

I suppose it depends what the risk assessment that GNE hold states, but I can't see any reason other than the mismatch in curb heights that would make it unsuitable... if you lowered the bus to the height of the curb for people boarding, its still enough for someone to lose their footing when alighting. Especially elderly passengers.

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Adrian
07 Mar 2022, 3:58 pm #261

(07 Mar 2022, 3:42 pm)ne14ne1 Doesn’t look like the rear doors were used at all throughout that video. 
Surely a standard height curb is suitable? It is elsewhere in the country for buses with separate exit doors. 

What does the old bus stop flag sticker say, just out of interest?

When the 21 was previously dual-door operation, several stops en-route had a pink 2X sticker added to the bus stop flag pole, to indicate that they weren't suitable for the rear doors to be used. Some are more obvious than others, e.g. the shelter or railings being in the way.

I suppose it depends what the risk assessment that GNE hold states, but I can't see any reason other than the mismatch in curb heights that would make it unsuitable... if you lowered the bus to the height of the curb for people boarding, its still enough for someone to lose their footing when alighting. Especially elderly passengers.


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07 Mar 2022, 7:57 pm #262
KERB!

Sorry.

And yes, that step down can be brutal on knees that are less than young and spritely.
BusLoverMum
07 Mar 2022, 7:57 pm #262

KERB!

Sorry.

And yes, that step down can be brutal on knees that are less than young and spritely.

08 Mar 2022, 12:56 am #263
(07 Mar 2022, 3:58 pm)Adrian When the 21 was previously dual-door operation, several stops en-route had a pink 2X sticker added to the bus stop flag pole, to indicate that they weren't suitable for the rear doors to be used. Some are more obvious than others, e.g. the shelter or railings being in the way.

I suppose it depends what the risk assessment that GNE hold states, but I can't see any reason other than the mismatch in curb heights that would make it unsuitable... if you lowered the bus to the height of the curb for people boarding, its still enough for someone to lose their footing when alighting. Especially elderly passengers.

I've been told in the past when using dual door deckers to not use the rear doors apart from with wheelchairs, I can't remember why or who asked for that, it may have been Nexus. Mind that never used to stop me on metro replacement at the likes of Gateshead when dumping my full bus load from using both doors to make the operation quicker.
deanmachine
08 Mar 2022, 12:56 am #263

(07 Mar 2022, 3:58 pm)Adrian When the 21 was previously dual-door operation, several stops en-route had a pink 2X sticker added to the bus stop flag pole, to indicate that they weren't suitable for the rear doors to be used. Some are more obvious than others, e.g. the shelter or railings being in the way.

I suppose it depends what the risk assessment that GNE hold states, but I can't see any reason other than the mismatch in curb heights that would make it unsuitable... if you lowered the bus to the height of the curb for people boarding, its still enough for someone to lose their footing when alighting. Especially elderly passengers.

I've been told in the past when using dual door deckers to not use the rear doors apart from with wheelchairs, I can't remember why or who asked for that, it may have been Nexus. Mind that never used to stop me on metro replacement at the likes of Gateshead when dumping my full bus load from using both doors to make the operation quicker.

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08 Mar 2022, 7:13 am #264
If anyone needs it the electric decker is out today. Just about to pass angel Newcastle bound. Same board as the other day when I happened upon it

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08 Mar 2022, 7:13 am #264

If anyone needs it the electric decker is out today. Just about to pass angel Newcastle bound. Same board as the other day when I happened upon it


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08 Mar 2022, 9:56 am #265
I'm guessing that the charging infrastructure at CLS (or lack thereof) is the reason for the sporadic operation.

Looking at how long it seems to be between outings (a day and a half) and the fact it seems to be limited to around 100 miles of range, I'd hazard a guess and say the charging infrastructure is limited to a 7kw car charger.
streetdeckfan
08 Mar 2022, 9:56 am #265

I'm guessing that the charging infrastructure at CLS (or lack thereof) is the reason for the sporadic operation.

Looking at how long it seems to be between outings (a day and a half) and the fact it seems to be limited to around 100 miles of range, I'd hazard a guess and say the charging infrastructure is limited to a 7kw car charger.

busmanT



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08 Mar 2022, 11:59 am #266
(08 Mar 2022, 9:56 am)streetdeckfan I'm guessing that the charging infrastructure at CLS (or lack thereof) is the reason for the sporadic operation.

Looking at how long it seems to be between outings (a day and a half) and the fact it seems to be limited to around 100 miles of range, I'd hazard a guess and say the charging infrastructure is limited to a 7kw car charger.

At 1027 this morning the onboard display was showing 88 mile range - 44% charge left.
I travelled down to Durham on it, and had hoped to catch it back to Birtley but it disappeared without trace.
At least I’m getting a ride on the 6cyl StreetDeck now, a spirited run back up the A167 on a very busy X21.
busmanT
08 Mar 2022, 11:59 am #266

(08 Mar 2022, 9:56 am)streetdeckfan I'm guessing that the charging infrastructure at CLS (or lack thereof) is the reason for the sporadic operation.

Looking at how long it seems to be between outings (a day and a half) and the fact it seems to be limited to around 100 miles of range, I'd hazard a guess and say the charging infrastructure is limited to a 7kw car charger.

At 1027 this morning the onboard display was showing 88 mile range - 44% charge left.
I travelled down to Durham on it, and had hoped to catch it back to Birtley but it disappeared without trace.
At least I’m getting a ride on the 6cyl StreetDeck now, a spirited run back up the A167 on a very busy X21.

Chris 1



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08 Mar 2022, 12:10 pm #267
(08 Mar 2022, 12:56 am)deanmachine I've been told in the past when using dual door deckers to not use the rear doors apart from with wheelchairs, I can't remember why or who asked for that, it may have been Nexus. Mind that never used to stop me on metro replacement at the likes of Gateshead when dumping my full bus load from using both doors to make the operation quicker.

A London spec bus will have the ramp on the centre doors.  Possible that during refurbishment they just leave it there rather than install one at the front doors.
Chris 1
08 Mar 2022, 12:10 pm #267

(08 Mar 2022, 12:56 am)deanmachine I've been told in the past when using dual door deckers to not use the rear doors apart from with wheelchairs, I can't remember why or who asked for that, it may have been Nexus. Mind that never used to stop me on metro replacement at the likes of Gateshead when dumping my full bus load from using both doors to make the operation quicker.

A London spec bus will have the ramp on the centre doors.  Possible that during refurbishment they just leave it there rather than install one at the front doors.

08 Mar 2022, 1:39 pm #268
The Angel Vykings retained the centre doors because not only the wheelchair ramp was there, but the throat from the front doors to the lower saloon was to narrow for the standard wheelchair.

Not sure if the throat was an issue on the 69xx ex Londoners and just more of the case of to save costs.

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Rapidsnap
08 Mar 2022, 1:39 pm #268

The Angel Vykings retained the centre doors because not only the wheelchair ramp was there, but the throat from the front doors to the lower saloon was to narrow for the standard wheelchair.

Not sure if the throat was an issue on the 69xx ex Londoners and just more of the case of to save costs.


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08 Mar 2022, 9:42 pm #269
If I end up accidentally catching it again I’ll save a fortune on my chiropractor and never complain about lner ironing board seats ever again

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08 Mar 2022, 9:42 pm #269

If I end up accidentally catching it again I’ll save a fortune on my chiropractor and never complain about lner ironing board seats ever again


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Michael



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08 May 2022, 2:12 pm #270
Are the next 9 electric buses still due to arrive from July?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
08 May 2022, 2:12 pm #270

Are the next 9 electric buses still due to arrive from July?


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Unber43



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09 May 2022, 10:48 am #271
Anyone know why 8809 is tracking in Chester Le Street, Durham, Seaham area?
Unber43
09 May 2022, 10:48 am #271

Anyone know why 8809 is tracking in Chester Le Street, Durham, Seaham area?

09 May 2022, 11:18 am #272
Matches up with the City of Culture judges' visit to County Durham to assess the bid.
omnicity4659
09 May 2022, 11:18 am #272

Matches up with the City of Culture judges' visit to County Durham to assess the bid.

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09 May 2022, 11:26 am #273
(09 May 2022, 10:48 am)Unber43 Anyone know why 8809 is tracking in Chester Le Street, Durham, Seaham area?
https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...4339318784

Find it a little strange that they're advertising the D2025 bid for them, with a bus that doesn't run down here; though then again they're not advertising the bus service -insert pointless branding joke here-
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09 May 2022, 11:26 am #273

(09 May 2022, 10:48 am)Unber43 Anyone know why 8809 is tracking in Chester Le Street, Durham, Seaham area?
https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...4339318784

Find it a little strange that they're advertising the D2025 bid for them, with a bus that doesn't run down here; though then again they're not advertising the bus service -insert pointless branding joke here-

Unber43



3,567
09 May 2022, 11:27 am #274
It’s been at the same place for about 15-20 mins
Unber43
09 May 2022, 11:27 am #274

It’s been at the same place for about 15-20 mins

09 May 2022, 11:40 am #275
(09 May 2022, 11:27 am)Unber43 It’s been at the same place for about 15-20 mins

Judges are getting off the bus to look at stuff.
omnicity4659
09 May 2022, 11:40 am #275

(09 May 2022, 11:27 am)Unber43 It’s been at the same place for about 15-20 mins

Judges are getting off the bus to look at stuff.

09 May 2022, 12:22 pm #276
Hopefully there's more than a couple judges otherwise the whole 'green transport' thing goes out the window!

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streetdeckfan
09 May 2022, 12:22 pm #276

Hopefully there's more than a couple judges otherwise the whole 'green transport' thing goes out the window!

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09 May 2022, 12:51 pm #277
(09 May 2022, 12:22 pm)streetdeckfan Hopefully there's more than a couple judges otherwise the whole 'green transport' thing goes out the window!

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I doubt they’d be providing three buses for just a couple of judges.


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Dan
09 May 2022, 12:51 pm #277

(09 May 2022, 12:22 pm)streetdeckfan Hopefully there's more than a couple judges otherwise the whole 'green transport' thing goes out the window!

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I doubt they’d be providing three buses for just a couple of judges.


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10 May 2022, 4:44 pm #278
City of Culture Bid Judges used 8809 & 5401 for transport. Today according to Bus Times 5401 went to Bowes Museum. 8809 I assume was used to show off electric buses.
DRS37419
10 May 2022, 4:44 pm #278

City of Culture Bid Judges used 8809 & 5401 for transport. Today according to Bus Times 5401 went to Bowes Museum. 8809 I assume was used to show off electric buses.

15 May 2022, 1:09 pm #279
[Image: 52074824331_b888804211_z.jpg]Go North East? LC71 EFD by kieron mathews, on Flickr

In attendance at today’s Riverside Open Day is this. Does anyone know if this is staying on loan or just for today?


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15 May 2022, 1:09 pm #279

[Image: 52074824331_b888804211_z.jpg]Go North East? LC71 EFD by kieron mathews, on Flickr

In attendance at today’s Riverside Open Day is this. Does anyone know if this is staying on loan or just for today?


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15 May 2022, 1:32 pm #280
(15 May 2022, 1:09 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 52074824331_b888804211_z.jpg]Go North East LC71 EFD by kieron mathews, on Flickr

In attendance at today’s Riverside Open Day is this. Does anyone know if this is staying on loan or just for today?


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It will be like the Fencer last year. Just there for the day for people to view it!
KingSlayerRBLX
15 May 2022, 1:32 pm #280

(15 May 2022, 1:09 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 52074824331_b888804211_z.jpg]Go North East LC71 EFD by kieron mathews, on Flickr

In attendance at today’s Riverside Open Day is this. Does anyone know if this is staying on loan or just for today?


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It will be like the Fencer last year. Just there for the day for people to view it!

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