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Adrian



9,566
01 Jun 2021, 3:09 pm #1
I see the little darlings are out in force today. Arriva in Durham have had three buses taken out of service for broken windows in as many hours.
This seems to be really bad lately and they have the brass necks to do it in broad daylight too.

"#DURHAM - Service 56 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 15:19 service 56 from Ferryhill towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7874966173

"#DURHAM - Service 22 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 14:43 service 22 from Sunderland towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7811621173

"#DURHAM - Service 23 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 13:51 service 23 from Peterlee towards Sunderland will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7761566173

How long before someone gets seriously injured?

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Adrian
01 Jun 2021, 3:09 pm #1

I see the little darlings are out in force today. Arriva in Durham have had three buses taken out of service for broken windows in as many hours.
This seems to be really bad lately and they have the brass necks to do it in broad daylight too.

"#DURHAM - Service 56 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 15:19 service 56 from Ferryhill towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7874966173

"#DURHAM - Service 22 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 14:43 service 22 from Sunderland towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7811621173

"#DURHAM - Service 23 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 13:51 service 23 from Peterlee towards Sunderland will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7761566173

How long before someone gets seriously injured?


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cbma06



2,669
01 Jun 2021, 3:13 pm #2
(01 Jun 2021, 3:09 pm)Adrian I see the little darlings are out in force today. Arriva in Durham have had three buses taken out of service for broken windows in as many hours.
This seems to be really bad lately and they have the brass necks to do it in broad daylight too.

"#DURHAM - Service 56 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 15:19 service 56 from Ferryhill towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7874966173

"#DURHAM - Service 22 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 14:43 service 22 from Sunderland towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7811621173

"#DURHAM - Service 23 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 13:51 service 23 from Peterlee towards Sunderland will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7761566173

How long before someone gets seriously injured?


The timed 22 won’t be running as the 23 had window done. 23 changes to the 22 at Sunderland and vice versa

Service 201 solo nearly had window put out but just missed the window and hit the side of bus


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cbma06
01 Jun 2021, 3:13 pm #2

(01 Jun 2021, 3:09 pm)Adrian I see the little darlings are out in force today. Arriva in Durham have had three buses taken out of service for broken windows in as many hours.
This seems to be really bad lately and they have the brass necks to do it in broad daylight too.

"#DURHAM - Service 56 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 15:19 service 56 from Ferryhill towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7874966173

"#DURHAM - Service 22 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 14:43 service 22 from Sunderland towards Durham will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7811621173

"#DURHAM - Service 23 - Unfortunately due to youths putting a brick through the bus window the 13:51 service 23 from Peterlee towards Sunderland will not be able to operate, sorry for any inconvenience caused."
https://www.facebook.com/arrivanortheast...7761566173

How long before someone gets seriously injured?


The timed 22 won’t be running as the 23 had window done. 23 changes to the 22 at Sunderland and vice versa

Service 201 solo nearly had window put out but just missed the window and hit the side of bus


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01 Jun 2021, 3:52 pm #3
The fact that police seem to respond to late or not at all. Doesn't help the fact. It's absolutely stupid how much vandle goes on..I remember a while ago GNE being on Look North dur to buses in the Houghton area due to vandle and they didn't want to pull bus services out of the area
Micheal Aaron
01 Jun 2021, 3:52 pm #3

The fact that police seem to respond to late or not at all. Doesn't help the fact. It's absolutely stupid how much vandle goes on..I remember a while ago GNE being on Look North dur to buses in the Houghton area due to vandle and they didn't want to pull bus services out of the area

Adrian



9,566
01 Jun 2021, 4:17 pm #4
(01 Jun 2021, 3:52 pm)Micheal Aaron The fact that police seem to respond to late or not at all. Doesn't help the fact. It's absolutely stupid how much vandle goes on..I remember a while ago GNE being on Look North dur to buses in the Houghton area due to vandle and they didn't want to pull bus services out of the area

We've lost about 20,000 police officers in England and Wales since 2010, which doesn't help, but even with those 20,000, its impossible for them to be everywhere at once. Especially in an area as vast as County Durham.

As its likely to be kids, they'll have legged it as soon as the brick or stones have been thrown, so it becomes a cat and mouse game for the police.

GNE have pulled buses out of Houghton before and I believe Arriva have somewhere on Teesside too. To be honest, as much as its a disruption to those that need the services, it's probably the only thing that is going to apply enough leverage to deal with the problem.

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Adrian
01 Jun 2021, 4:17 pm #4

(01 Jun 2021, 3:52 pm)Micheal Aaron The fact that police seem to respond to late or not at all. Doesn't help the fact. It's absolutely stupid how much vandle goes on..I remember a while ago GNE being on Look North dur to buses in the Houghton area due to vandle and they didn't want to pull bus services out of the area

We've lost about 20,000 police officers in England and Wales since 2010, which doesn't help, but even with those 20,000, its impossible for them to be everywhere at once. Especially in an area as vast as County Durham.

As its likely to be kids, they'll have legged it as soon as the brick or stones have been thrown, so it becomes a cat and mouse game for the police.

GNE have pulled buses out of Houghton before and I believe Arriva have somewhere on Teesside too. To be honest, as much as its a disruption to those that need the services, it's probably the only thing that is going to apply enough leverage to deal with the problem.


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V514DFT



2,224
01 Jun 2021, 5:12 pm #5
Little arseholes,just shows people (not just youths),cant appreciate or keep anything nice,which leaves innocent people being slapped with the same brush as the offenders,boils my blood

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Tez
V514DFT
01 Jun 2021, 5:12 pm #5

Little arseholes,just shows people (not just youths),cant appreciate or keep anything nice,which leaves innocent people being slapped with the same brush as the offenders,boils my blood


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Tez

Unber43



3,533
31 Oct 2022, 11:02 pm #6
Atleast 1 Arriva Solo has been hit tonight, really this thread should be moved to Bus Operations, Management & Infrastructure as there seems to be re-occurance of vandalism with Winlaton Bus Station just being avoided a few days ago and X20's been destroyed while in Storage.
Unber43
31 Oct 2022, 11:02 pm #6

Atleast 1 Arriva Solo has been hit tonight, really this thread should be moved to Bus Operations, Management & Infrastructure as there seems to be re-occurance of vandalism with Winlaton Bus Station just being avoided a few days ago and X20's been destroyed while in Storage.

BusLoverMum



5,276
11 Nov 2022, 11:21 pm #7
There have been a few reports of antisocial behaviour in the area recently but from reports on next door, it sounds like an Angel had its windows put through by youths in Pity Me, last night.
BusLoverMum
11 Nov 2022, 11:21 pm #7

There have been a few reports of antisocial behaviour in the area recently but from reports on next door, it sounds like an Angel had its windows put through by youths in Pity Me, last night.

Unber43



3,533
26 Nov 2022, 11:23 pm #8
Quote:Due to antisocial behaviour and damage caused  to our vehicles our service 8 & 20 will have no option but to terminate at the Round Robin (Herron Foods).  Northumbria Police are aware and assisting. We have had a number of buses damaged in the last hour.
Seems more anti social behaviour on SC
Unber43
26 Nov 2022, 11:23 pm #8

Quote:Due to antisocial behaviour and damage caused  to our vehicles our service 8 & 20 will have no option but to terminate at the Round Robin (Herron Foods).  Northumbria Police are aware and assisting. We have had a number of buses damaged in the last hour.
Seems more anti social behaviour on SC

Unber43



3,533
27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm #9
A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV
Unber43
27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm #9

A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV

Andreos1



14,155
27 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm #10
(27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm)Unber43 A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV

Of what?
A cynic would suggest the CCTV was to stop the 'claims' going in, rather than to actually protect their windows.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
27 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm #10

(27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm)Unber43 A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV

Of what?
A cynic would suggest the CCTV was to stop the 'claims' going in, rather than to actually protect their windows.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Unber43



3,533
27 Nov 2022, 8:45 pm #11
(27 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm)Andreos1 Of what?
A cynic would suggest the CCTV was to stop the 'claims' going in, rather than to actually protect their windows.
The CCTV of the vehicles which have been hit by rocks, apparently a few more have been hit in the Stagecoach Sunderland Area
Unber43
27 Nov 2022, 8:45 pm #11

(27 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm)Andreos1 Of what?
A cynic would suggest the CCTV was to stop the 'claims' going in, rather than to actually protect their windows.
The CCTV of the vehicles which have been hit by rocks, apparently a few more have been hit in the Stagecoach Sunderland Area

F114TML



896
27 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm #12
(27 Nov 2022, 8:45 pm)Unber43 The CCTV of the vehicles which have been hit by rocks, apparently a few more have been hit in the Stagecoach Sunderland Area
About lunchtime the 20 was diverted to go down to Chester Road and do the Pennywell loop the same as the 39. Apparently that was due to things being thrown at buses. Didn't hear a mention of the 8 on that radio call though.
F114TML
27 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm #12

(27 Nov 2022, 8:45 pm)Unber43 The CCTV of the vehicles which have been hit by rocks, apparently a few more have been hit in the Stagecoach Sunderland Area
About lunchtime the 20 was diverted to go down to Chester Road and do the Pennywell loop the same as the 39. Apparently that was due to things being thrown at buses. Didn't hear a mention of the 8 on that radio call though.

tcts24



170
03 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm #13
Not allowed
(27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm)Unber43 A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV
Not allowed under data protection. Even the management can only look at 10 minutes either side of an incident.
tcts24
03 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm #13

Not allowed

(27 Nov 2022, 6:02 pm)Unber43 A 58's window has been smashed, GNE/ANE/SCNE should start posting the CCTV
Not allowed under data protection. Even the management can only look at 10 minutes either side of an incident.

Unber43



3,533
03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm #14
(03 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm)tcts24 Not allowed
Not allowed under data protection. Even the management can only look at 10 minutes either side of an incident.
What about the police sharing footage?
Unber43
03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm #14

(03 Dec 2022, 2:34 pm)tcts24 Not allowed
Not allowed under data protection. Even the management can only look at 10 minutes either side of an incident.
What about the police sharing footage?

tcts24



170
03 Dec 2022, 4:18 pm #15
(03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm)Unber43 What about the police sharing footage?
That's a different matter entirely. Police may obtain and share information for identity purposes relating to a crime.
tcts24
03 Dec 2022, 4:18 pm #15

(03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm)Unber43 What about the police sharing footage?
That's a different matter entirely. Police may obtain and share information for identity purposes relating to a crime.

MurdnunoC



3,965
03 Dec 2022, 4:20 pm #16
(03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm)Unber43 What about the police sharing footage?

The police are allowed to do so because they are classed as a 'competent authority' (although their competency may be questioned in light of Sarah Everard and other recent cases), and sharing of CCTV information is allowed where it is deemed to be necessary or proportionate (eg. duties of law enforcement or crime prevention). 

Bus companies are not 'competent authorities' (nor should they be), and therefore have to follow the same guidelines as everybody else with regard to CCTV and GDPR.
MurdnunoC
03 Dec 2022, 4:20 pm #16

(03 Dec 2022, 3:34 pm)Unber43 What about the police sharing footage?

The police are allowed to do so because they are classed as a 'competent authority' (although their competency may be questioned in light of Sarah Everard and other recent cases), and sharing of CCTV information is allowed where it is deemed to be necessary or proportionate (eg. duties of law enforcement or crime prevention). 

Bus companies are not 'competent authorities' (nor should they be), and therefore have to follow the same guidelines as everybody else with regard to CCTV and GDPR.

Unber43



3,533
03 Dec 2022, 9:40 pm #17
Thanks for the info
Unber43
03 Dec 2022, 9:40 pm #17

Thanks for the info

Ryland



453
24 Dec 2022, 12:20 pm #18
Temsa avenue involved in a incident in dormanstown. Unsure what damage is to the vehicle
Ryland
24 Dec 2022, 12:20 pm #18

Temsa avenue involved in a incident in dormanstown. Unsure what damage is to the vehicle

tyresmoke



5,299
01 Jan 2023, 12:14 pm #19
(24 Dec 2022, 12:20 pm)Ryland Temsa avenue involved in a incident in dormanstown. Unsure what damage is to the vehicle


Was 4720, pinched from the Clock apparently. Back in service now


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tyresmoke
01 Jan 2023, 12:14 pm #19

(24 Dec 2022, 12:20 pm)Ryland Temsa avenue involved in a incident in dormanstown. Unsure what damage is to the vehicle


Was 4720, pinched from the Clock apparently. Back in service now


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