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What would you like to see Arriva order

What would you like to see Arriva order

 
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29 Jun 2021, 10:24 pm #1
A bus I've always thought Arriva up here should own is Mercedes-Benz Citaro. Arriva up here seem to be mostly Enviros Streetlites Pulsar & Solos

Other buses Like Solo Sr, Optare Versa, Plaxton President
Micheal Aaron
29 Jun 2021, 10:24 pm #1

A bus I've always thought Arriva up here should own is Mercedes-Benz Citaro. Arriva up here seem to be mostly Enviros Streetlites Pulsar & Solos

Other buses Like Solo Sr, Optare Versa, Plaxton President

Andreos1



14,155
29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm #2
(29 Jun 2021, 10:24 pm)Micheal Aaron A bus I've always thought Arriva up here should own is Mercedes-Benz Citaro. Arriva up here seem to be mostly Enviros Streetlites Pulsar & Solos

Other buses Like Solo Sr, Optare Versa, Plaxton President

Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm #2

(29 Jun 2021, 10:24 pm)Micheal Aaron A bus I've always thought Arriva up here should own is Mercedes-Benz Citaro. Arriva up here seem to be mostly Enviros Streetlites Pulsar & Solos

Other buses Like Solo Sr, Optare Versa, Plaxton President

Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

29 Jun 2021, 10:29 pm #3
Confused I should have added buses making this thread
Micheal Aaron
29 Jun 2021, 10:29 pm #3

Confused I should have added buses making this thread

Benny



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29 Jun 2021, 10:54 pm #4
A Mixture of Plaxton Elitei and Panther LE for the long distance express routes Between Berwick/Carlisle and Newcastle as well as Middlesbrough to Scarborough. Expensive but compared to other Arriva fleets we have quite modern buses so we don't need much for a few years.
Benny
29 Jun 2021, 10:54 pm #4

A Mixture of Plaxton Elitei and Panther LE for the long distance express routes Between Berwick/Carlisle and Newcastle as well as Middlesbrough to Scarborough. Expensive but compared to other Arriva fleets we have quite modern buses so we don't need much for a few years.

29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm #5
Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run
Micheal Aaron
29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm #5

Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run

30 Jun 2021, 7:05 am #6
(29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm)Micheal Aaron Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run
Perhaps as the year draws on finally the break up of Arriva will happen, whatever the outcome, new vehicles will have to be ordered by whoever gets what...
54APhotography
30 Jun 2021, 7:05 am #6

(29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm)Micheal Aaron Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run
Perhaps as the year draws on finally the break up of Arriva will happen, whatever the outcome, new vehicles will have to be ordered by whoever gets what...

idiot



1,116
30 Jun 2021, 7:25 am #7
(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm)Andreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.
Actually started snorting when reading this!
idiot
30 Jun 2021, 7:25 am #7

(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm)Andreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.
Actually started snorting when reading this!

V514DFT



2,225
30 Jun 2021, 7:34 am #8
(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm):DAndreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.
Big Grin  that made me chuckle

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
30 Jun 2021, 7:34 am #8

(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm):DAndreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.
Big Grin  that made me chuckle


Kind Regards
Tez

Storx



4,482
30 Jun 2021, 10:47 am #9
Being realistic here.

12x new buses for the X15/X18, 7510 - 7512 and 7514 - 7517 35 and spares, 3 Omnicities withdrawn, 1402 withdrawn, 7529 - 7533, 7553 - 7556 for X14/X20 - increase X21/X22/35 back to every 20 minutes each (prefer coaches but will be Enviro 400MMC's)
Ex London Gemini's to replace all the Pulsars on the 306, X7/X8/X9
Ex London Gemini's to replace the B7TL's on the X46 into spare role and few extra to withdraw the Gemini B7TL's.
18x replaced Pulsars at Blyth / Jesmond replace all the Omnicity's which are withdrawn (3 replaced by Enviros at Ashington). Keep other 5 at Blyth possibly for the 1/2.
New minis to start to make progress on the Solo's (Enviro 200MMC's)

Should be enough to get through to 2024/2025 when investment really needs to be done.
Storx
30 Jun 2021, 10:47 am #9

Being realistic here.

12x new buses for the X15/X18, 7510 - 7512 and 7514 - 7517 35 and spares, 3 Omnicities withdrawn, 1402 withdrawn, 7529 - 7533, 7553 - 7556 for X14/X20 - increase X21/X22/35 back to every 20 minutes each (prefer coaches but will be Enviro 400MMC's)
Ex London Gemini's to replace all the Pulsars on the 306, X7/X8/X9
Ex London Gemini's to replace the B7TL's on the X46 into spare role and few extra to withdraw the Gemini B7TL's.
18x replaced Pulsars at Blyth / Jesmond replace all the Omnicity's which are withdrawn (3 replaced by Enviros at Ashington). Keep other 5 at Blyth possibly for the 1/2.
New minis to start to make progress on the Solo's (Enviro 200MMC's)

Should be enough to get through to 2024/2025 when investment really needs to be done.

MurdnunoC



3,965
30 Jun 2021, 11:11 am #10
(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm)Andreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.

I think a more pressing question is what would Srriva order?

Czernia doesn't sound too good.
MurdnunoC
30 Jun 2021, 11:11 am #10

(29 Jun 2021, 10:28 pm)Andreos1 Depends where they order from I suppose.
I'd recommend the lamb bhuna and onion pilau. If that's not an option - then it has to be salt & pepper chicken, fried rice and curry sauce.

I think a more pressing question is what would Srriva order?

Czernia doesn't sound too good.

Andreos1



14,155
30 Jun 2021, 11:34 am #11
(29 Jun 2021, 10:29 pm)Micheal Aaron Confused I should have added buses making this thread

In all seriousness, I would like to see coaches make a return on the Berwick and Carlisle routes.
I'd hope the apparent success on the X9/10 has allowed others to see that coaches could be a viable alternative.

(30 Jun 2021, 7:25 am)idiot Actually started snorting when reading this!

See, much more than complaining within the Constantopolous toolbox.
Able to engage in a bit of bantz when the opportunity presents itself.

(30 Jun 2021, 11:11 am)MurdnunoC I think a more pressing question is what would Srriva order?

Czernia doesn't sound too good.

I genuinely did think about Srriva when I saw this thread.
Thought it was a bit niche so didn't mention it. But still had a little chuckle.
Edited 30 Jun 2021, 11:37 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
30 Jun 2021, 11:34 am #11

(29 Jun 2021, 10:29 pm)Micheal Aaron Confused I should have added buses making this thread

In all seriousness, I would like to see coaches make a return on the Berwick and Carlisle routes.
I'd hope the apparent success on the X9/10 has allowed others to see that coaches could be a viable alternative.

(30 Jun 2021, 7:25 am)idiot Actually started snorting when reading this!

See, much more than complaining within the Constantopolous toolbox.
Able to engage in a bit of bantz when the opportunity presents itself.

(30 Jun 2021, 11:11 am)MurdnunoC I think a more pressing question is what would Srriva order?

Czernia doesn't sound too good.

I genuinely did think about Srriva when I saw this thread.
Thought it was a bit niche so didn't mention it. But still had a little chuckle.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

BoroLad



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30 Jun 2021, 1:15 pm #12
(29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm)Micheal Aaron Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run
The one issue with putting coaches on the 685 is the stopping pattern. A route like the X9 or X10 has a fairly short list of potential stops, but the 685 has 117 stops along its length. There's also the issue that generally the X9 or X10 only stops once in each area it serves, whereas the 685 is just a standard stopping service for most of its route.

A coach could work for an express "X85" service (X85 in quote marks because it'd have to be called something else like the X69). But I'm not convinced there's demand for such a service - the 685 deals with a lot of overlapping flows but relatively few people are on it for longer journeys.
BoroLad
30 Jun 2021, 1:15 pm #12

(29 Jun 2021, 10:56 pm)Micheal Aaron Would be nice to update the fleet though. Coaches would be good for the 685. Don't understand why they need Pulsar on. Unless it's because it ain't popular enough for coaches to run
The one issue with putting coaches on the 685 is the stopping pattern. A route like the X9 or X10 has a fairly short list of potential stops, but the 685 has 117 stops along its length. There's also the issue that generally the X9 or X10 only stops once in each area it serves, whereas the 685 is just a standard stopping service for most of its route.

A coach could work for an express "X85" service (X85 in quote marks because it'd have to be called something else like the X69). But I'm not convinced there's demand for such a service - the 685 deals with a lot of overlapping flows but relatively few people are on it for longer journeys.

Storx



4,482
30 Jun 2021, 6:18 pm #13
(30 Jun 2021, 1:15 pm)BoroLad The one issue with putting coaches on the 685 is the stopping pattern. A route like the X9 or X10 has a fairly short list of potential stops, but the 685 has 117 stops along its length. There's also the issue that generally the X9 or X10 only stops once in each area it serves, whereas the 685 is just a standard stopping service for most of its route.

A coach could work for an express "X85" service (X85 in quote marks because it'd have to be called something else like the X69). But I'm not convinced there's demand for such a service - the 685 deals with a lot of overlapping flows but relatively few people are on it for longer journeys.

In fairness it used to be ran by coaches until roughly 2012 without any real issues and it's no different to some Stagecoach services in the Highlands such as the 10 from Aberdeen to Inverness or X99 from Inverness to Thurso. Even known it stops at a lot of places most of the 'shorter' journeys are easily 40+ mins some much greater and they'd want a better comfort than a Pulsar especially when there's a train which is an option in most places.
Storx
30 Jun 2021, 6:18 pm #13

(30 Jun 2021, 1:15 pm)BoroLad The one issue with putting coaches on the 685 is the stopping pattern. A route like the X9 or X10 has a fairly short list of potential stops, but the 685 has 117 stops along its length. There's also the issue that generally the X9 or X10 only stops once in each area it serves, whereas the 685 is just a standard stopping service for most of its route.

A coach could work for an express "X85" service (X85 in quote marks because it'd have to be called something else like the X69). But I'm not convinced there's demand for such a service - the 685 deals with a lot of overlapping flows but relatively few people are on it for longer journeys.

In fairness it used to be ran by coaches until roughly 2012 without any real issues and it's no different to some Stagecoach services in the Highlands such as the 10 from Aberdeen to Inverness or X99 from Inverness to Thurso. Even known it stops at a lot of places most of the 'shorter' journeys are easily 40+ mins some much greater and they'd want a better comfort than a Pulsar especially when there's a train which is an option in most places.

L469 YVK



3,544
30 Jun 2021, 6:27 pm #14
New orders (not including spares):

- 15x ADL E400MMC 10.9M ZF X21/X22
- 13x ADL E400MMC 10.9M ZF X10/X11
- 14x Scania ADL E400MMC 10.9M X15/X18/X20
- 6x Scania ADL E400MMC 10.9M X93/X94

Cascades (Main highlights, will think about rest)
- 7541-50 308 & 2x Blyth spares
- 7401-03 X14 & 3x NE float spares
L469 YVK
30 Jun 2021, 6:27 pm #14

New orders (not including spares):

- 15x ADL E400MMC 10.9M ZF X21/X22
- 13x ADL E400MMC 10.9M ZF X10/X11
- 14x Scania ADL E400MMC 10.9M X15/X18/X20
- 6x Scania ADL E400MMC 10.9M X93/X94

Cascades (Main highlights, will think about rest)
- 7541-50 308 & 2x Blyth spares
- 7401-03 X14 & 3x NE float spares

30 Jun 2021, 8:09 pm #15
My order I'd love to see

12 Mercedes-Benz Citaro 52/53/54

13 ADL Enviro 400 X7/X8/X9

12 ADL Enviro 400MMC 43/44/45

4 ADL Enviro 200MMC 57/57A

6 Optare Solo SR 51/51A

4 Optare Versa 55

3 ADL Enviro 400MMC 685

Number of buses won't be accurate. I'm going of how many buses are usually seen on these routes
Micheal Aaron
30 Jun 2021, 8:09 pm #15

My order I'd love to see

12 Mercedes-Benz Citaro 52/53/54

13 ADL Enviro 400 X7/X8/X9

12 ADL Enviro 400MMC 43/44/45

4 ADL Enviro 200MMC 57/57A

6 Optare Solo SR 51/51A

4 Optare Versa 55

3 ADL Enviro 400MMC 685

Number of buses won't be accurate. I'm going of how many buses are usually seen on these routes

30 Jun 2021, 9:13 pm #16
Northumbria & North Tyneside
MCV Evoseti for X10/X11 & X20/X21/X22.
E400 MMC for X14/X15/X16/X18 & 685/X85.
Streetlite Max EV for 52/53/54/(55?).
Optare Solo EV for 51/51A.

Not sure about the 55, because the one time i got on it was allocated a 43 branded sapphire e400

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ASX_Terranova
30 Jun 2021, 9:13 pm #16

Northumbria & North Tyneside
MCV Evoseti for X10/X11 & X20/X21/X22.
E400 MMC for X14/X15/X16/X18 & 685/X85.
Streetlite Max EV for 52/53/54/(55?).
Optare Solo EV for 51/51A.

Not sure about the 55, because the one time i got on it was allocated a 43 branded sapphire e400


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

30 Jun 2021, 9:53 pm #17
I doubt they'll order anything new for the NE for the forseeable future. Any new buses will be going London way and whatever they replace will be shunted up this way to eventually replace the 20 year old Volvo B7TLs.
Driver9***
30 Jun 2021, 9:53 pm #17

I doubt they'll order anything new for the NE for the forseeable future. Any new buses will be going London way and whatever they replace will be shunted up this way to eventually replace the 20 year old Volvo B7TLs.

 
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