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(29 Jul 2021, 5:59 pm)Adrian And long may the maps continue!
I'll keep saying it, but I do find routes laid out on a map like that extremely useful.
(29 Jul 2021, 5:59 pm)Adrian And long may the maps continue!
I'll keep saying it, but I do find routes laid out on a map like that extremely useful.
Wow, they’ve included all of Gateshead in the Gateshead zone.
For the first time in 20 odd years they’re acknowledging Gateshead doesn’t end at Eighton Lodge!!
You start competing with taxis for the Low Fell set at these prices
(29 Jul 2021, 6:14 pm)JP6004 Seems to confirm the purple sunderland district is indeed for the 55
(29 Jul 2021, 6:14 pm)JP6004 Seems to confirm the purple sunderland district is indeed for the 55
These changes seem fairly positive, especially for people travelling from the likes of Chopwell where a single ticket has halved in price
(29 Jul 2021, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Isn't the 2 in purple on the map though?
Bit odd that the 33, 38, 39, 700 are completely omitted from the map (also a big fan of network maps here) - presume its because they operate wholly within the city but seems a missed opportunity to include full network, and could easily have fitted on without looking too cluttered. Assuming they aren't all lost in the service changes of course.
(29 Jul 2021, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Isn't the 2 in purple on the map though?
Bit odd that the 33, 38, 39, 700 are completely omitted from the map (also a big fan of network maps here) - presume its because they operate wholly within the city but seems a missed opportunity to include full network, and could easily have fitted on without looking too cluttered. Assuming they aren't all lost in the service changes of course.
(29 Jul 2021, 10:05 pm)Dan There’s a separate, more detailed, map for Sunderland Central. It’s impossible to show all those routes without it looking cluttered.
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(29 Jul 2021, 10:05 pm)Dan There’s a separate, more detailed, map for Sunderland Central. It’s impossible to show all those routes without it looking cluttered.
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An interesting move, certainly welcome and I do echo the comments about maps being helpful because then you can see routes and boundary points clearly.
I’ve just noticed though that Follinsby Park doesn’t seem to be included in the Gateshead zone or Sunderland zone, double checking what I thought that it’s indeed in the Borough of Gateshead, is it a mistake that it’s excluded from that ticket? Also considering the below anomaly about Seaham, it might have been nice for the Sunderland ticket to include Follingsby too, so both areas can benefit considering it’s on the border of Gateshead to Sunderland.
Its also a little odd that a City of Sunderland zone is actually including Seaham and Murton, when they’re not part of Sunderland. Washington and Houghton is one thing being City of Sunderland Council and Tyne and Wear etc., but as a passenger I certainly wouldn’t think of a ‘City of Sunderland’ ticket being valid in areas of County Durham. Maybe it should been Sunderland Plus or something?
(29 Jul 2021, 9:43 pm)streetdeckfan So, does the Gateshead zone include Newcastle? The map could be interpreted either way
(29 Jul 2021, 9:43 pm)streetdeckfan So, does the Gateshead zone include Newcastle? The map could be interpreted either way
(30 Jul 2021, 2:29 am)6049 Highly doubt it, haven't seen anything to confirm either way, but considering the zone is being touted as a ticket to cover the entire Borough I don't think it would make any sense to include Newcastle which definitely isn't in the Borough of Gateshead.
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(30 Jul 2021, 2:29 am)6049 Highly doubt it, haven't seen anything to confirm either way, but considering the zone is being touted as a ticket to cover the entire Borough I don't think it would make any sense to include Newcastle which definitely isn't in the Borough of Gateshead.
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(29 Jul 2021, 6:14 pm)JP6004 Seems to confirm the purple sunderland district is indeed for the 55
(30 Jul 2021, 12:21 am)Drifter60 An interesting move, certainly welcome and I do echo the comments about maps being helpful because then you can see routes and boundary points clearly.
I’ve just noticed though that Follinsby Park doesn’t seem to be included in the Gateshead zone or Sunderland zone, double checking what I thought that it’s indeed in the Borough of Gateshead, is it a mistake that it’s excluded from that ticket? Also considering the below anomaly about Seaham, it might have been nice for the Sunderland ticket to include Follingsby too, so both areas can benefit considering it’s on the border of Gateshead to Sunderland.
Its also a little odd that a City of Sunderland zone is actually including Seaham and Murton, when they’re not part of Sunderland. Washington and Houghton is one thing being City of Sunderland Council and Tyne and Wear etc., but as a passenger I certainly wouldn’t think of a ‘City of Sunderland’ ticket being valid in areas of County Durham. Maybe it should been Sunderland Plus or something?
(29 Jul 2021, 6:14 pm)JP6004 Seems to confirm the purple sunderland district is indeed for the 55
(30 Jul 2021, 12:21 am)Drifter60 An interesting move, certainly welcome and I do echo the comments about maps being helpful because then you can see routes and boundary points clearly.
I’ve just noticed though that Follinsby Park doesn’t seem to be included in the Gateshead zone or Sunderland zone, double checking what I thought that it’s indeed in the Borough of Gateshead, is it a mistake that it’s excluded from that ticket? Also considering the below anomaly about Seaham, it might have been nice for the Sunderland ticket to include Follingsby too, so both areas can benefit considering it’s on the border of Gateshead to Sunderland.
Its also a little odd that a City of Sunderland zone is actually including Seaham and Murton, when they’re not part of Sunderland. Washington and Houghton is one thing being City of Sunderland Council and Tyne and Wear etc., but as a passenger I certainly wouldn’t think of a ‘City of Sunderland’ ticket being valid in areas of County Durham. Maybe it should been Sunderland Plus or something?
(30 Jul 2021, 7:13 am)Storx Is the 55 even going to exist after? From what I've heard the X1 / X20 is replacing it.
Isn't the City of Sunderland area just what will be the Sunderland and District routes. Looking at what routes there are it certainly seems that way at least anyway. Obviously they can't call it that yet though as it doesn't exist yet.
Not sure whether the 9/26 are becoming part of it yet as they're the only routes going out the area.
(30 Jul 2021, 7:13 am)Storx Is the 55 even going to exist after? From what I've heard the X1 / X20 is replacing it.
Isn't the City of Sunderland area just what will be the Sunderland and District routes. Looking at what routes there are it certainly seems that way at least anyway. Obviously they can't call it that yet though as it doesn't exist yet.
Not sure whether the 9/26 are becoming part of it yet as they're the only routes going out the area.
(30 Jul 2021, 7:32 am)cbma06 I don’t know what the original changes were for service 55, but GNE have decided not to go ahead with changing the 55 from what was said on Martijn Facebook stream yesterday
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(30 Jul 2021, 7:32 am)cbma06 I don’t know what the original changes were for service 55, but GNE have decided not to go ahead with changing the 55 from what was said on Martijn Facebook stream yesterday
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(30 Jul 2021, 7:13 am)Storx Is the 55 even going to exist after? From what I've heard the X1 / X20 is replacing it.
Isn't the City of Sunderland area just what will be the Sunderland and District routes. Looking at what routes there are it certainly seems that way at least anyway. Obviously they can't call it that yet though as it doesn't exist yet.
Not sure whether the 9/26 are becoming part of it yet as they're the only routes going out the area.
(30 Jul 2021, 7:13 am)Storx Is the 55 even going to exist after? From what I've heard the X1 / X20 is replacing it.
Isn't the City of Sunderland area just what will be the Sunderland and District routes. Looking at what routes there are it certainly seems that way at least anyway. Obviously they can't call it that yet though as it doesn't exist yet.
Not sure whether the 9/26 are becoming part of it yet as they're the only routes going out the area.
(30 Jul 2021, 1:25 pm)Drifter60 Well just one of many reasons why I’m not a fan of brands featuring a place name, if they go outside that area. Sunderland District Berries works sort of okay, as it’s wholly within “Sunderland” and ‘District’ I guess implies we’re talking about wider Sunderland ie, Houghton and Washington. But Seaham isn’t Sunderland, so shouldn’t include Drifter or the 61 or the 9 either as that’s South Tyneside for a good section too. I mean I’m not a fan of the berries bit, but that’s a separate conversation.
It’s the same reason why the 2xx routes based out of Peterlee depot shouldn’t be known as “Peterlee xxx” (seen that suggested) as Peterlee isn’t Seaham and neither is Durham. A few of the 2xx and the 60/61 routes go into places that aren’t solely Sunderland or Peterlee; namely Wingate, Seaham, Durham, Belmont, Dalton Park and Murton.
It’s also clunky using place names within brands I find, the Sunderland District Drifter 60 to Sunderland? Or just the Drifter 60 to Sunderland? One sounds better on a Next Stop Announcement and is a simpler brand name to remember and use in conversation. And not mention brands such as Drifter and Prince Bishop have been around for 10-15 years, changing them and unnecessarily complicating and elongating them would be a mistake IMO.
(30 Jul 2021, 1:25 pm)Drifter60 Well just one of many reasons why I’m not a fan of brands featuring a place name, if they go outside that area. Sunderland District Berries works sort of okay, as it’s wholly within “Sunderland” and ‘District’ I guess implies we’re talking about wider Sunderland ie, Houghton and Washington. But Seaham isn’t Sunderland, so shouldn’t include Drifter or the 61 or the 9 either as that’s South Tyneside for a good section too. I mean I’m not a fan of the berries bit, but that’s a separate conversation.
It’s the same reason why the 2xx routes based out of Peterlee depot shouldn’t be known as “Peterlee xxx” (seen that suggested) as Peterlee isn’t Seaham and neither is Durham. A few of the 2xx and the 60/61 routes go into places that aren’t solely Sunderland or Peterlee; namely Wingate, Seaham, Durham, Belmont, Dalton Park and Murton.
It’s also clunky using place names within brands I find, the Sunderland District Drifter 60 to Sunderland? Or just the Drifter 60 to Sunderland? One sounds better on a Next Stop Announcement and is a simpler brand name to remember and use in conversation. And not mention brands such as Drifter and Prince Bishop have been around for 10-15 years, changing them and unnecessarily complicating and elongating them would be a mistake IMO.
