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Rob44

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24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm #521

did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

Rob44

24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm #521

did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

Retro Nero

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24 Jun 2023, 4:19 pm #522

(24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm)Rob44 did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

I'm not sure about MCW, but I remember the Bristol VRs having 3 single seats on the upstairs front near side and a treble front seat on the off side in front of the stairwell

Retro Nero

24 Jun 2023, 4:19 pm #522

(24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm)Rob44 did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

I'm not sure about MCW, but I remember the Bristol VRs having 3 single seats on the upstairs front near side and a treble front seat on the off side in front of the stairwell

Dans_bus_photos

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24 Jun 2023, 4:41 pm #523

6177,78,79,81 appear to be working from Deptford today

Dans_bus_photos

24 Jun 2023, 4:41 pm #523

6177,78,79,81 appear to be working from Deptford today

Andreos1

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24 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm #524

(24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm)Rob44 did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

Some of the early mk2's had a single seat upstairs, behind the stairs.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

24 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm #524

(24 Jun 2023, 1:26 pm)Rob44 did some of the nothere double deckers mcw?? from around 1980 had a single seat with back to window if i remember rightly

Some of the early mk2's had a single seat upstairs, behind the stairs.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Rob44

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24 Jun 2023, 5:55 pm #525

(24 Jun 2023, 4:19 pm)Retro Nero I'm not sure about MCW, but I remember the Bristol VRs having 3 single seats on the upstairs front near side and a treble front seat on the off side in front of the stairwell

Yeh remember always a rush for the single seat on its own at front

(24 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm)Andreos1 Some of the early mk2's had a single seat upstairs, behind the stairs.

yep thats where it was.

Edited 24 Jun 2023, 5:56 pm by Rob44.

Rob44

24 Jun 2023, 5:55 pm #525

(24 Jun 2023, 4:19 pm)Retro Nero I'm not sure about MCW, but I remember the Bristol VRs having 3 single seats on the upstairs front near side and a treble front seat on the off side in front of the stairwell

Yeh remember always a rush for the single seat on its own at front

(24 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm)Andreos1 Some of the early mk2's had a single seat upstairs, behind the stairs.

yep thats where it was.

Rapidsnap

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24 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm #526

Single Side Seat Upstairs on MCW Metrobus Mk2 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...8150435521

Also found on the Arriva Lowlanders - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...2856913276

Wilts and Dorset had them on their High Floor Spectras - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...8245445433
The Spectras GNE operated also had a side seat upstairs, but was positioned between the front pair of seats on the offside and the staircase, I believe this was due to the design of the seat used on them.

(24 Jun 2023, 8:08 am)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...2011343586 you could actually still sit like this with ANE in their Vykings that they had at Durham

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...0686527466 that was on the first olypians e.g 3926

I know you can sit backwards and sideways on various vehicles, but I'm on about the whole interior layout in general is messy. Also Arriva had Lowlanders (DAF Chassis), not Vykings (Volvo Chassis).

Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

Rapidsnap

24 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm #526

(24 Jun 2023, 8:08 am)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...2011343586 you could actually still sit like this with ANE in their Vykings that they had at Durham

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...0686527466 that was on the first olypians e.g 3926

I know you can sit backwards and sideways on various vehicles, but I'm on about the whole interior layout in general is messy. Also Arriva had Lowlanders (DAF Chassis), not Vykings (Volvo Chassis).

Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

Storx

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24 Jun 2023, 7:45 pm #527

(24 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm)Rapidsnap Also found on the Arriva Lowlanders - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...2856913276

I knew something had them on that I used to use, couldn't think what it was but that's the answer. Used to like that as it was a foot rest for the Urban 90's which made them slightly more bearable.

Least they had the nice Voice retarder that used to have a nice sound - much nicer than the equivilant Enviro's nowadays similar with the Commanders. It's a shame we didn't get more of both.

Storx

24 Jun 2023, 7:45 pm #527

(24 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm)Rapidsnap Also found on the Arriva Lowlanders - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...2856913276

wibblejunior

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24 Jun 2023, 9:41 pm #528

I've always found the 1-2 seating configuration towards the front of Arriva Pulsars 1513-1523 to be rather unusual. I think the HW07 Citaros that GNE used to have had a similar seating configuration.

Same with the side facing seats over the rear wheel arches that Arriva's ex-London DAF ALX400s had (as well as the Y-reg Lowlanders to a lesser extent).

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wibblejunior

24 Jun 2023, 9:41 pm #528

Storx

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24 Jun 2023, 10:39 pm #529

(24 Jun 2023, 9:41 pm)wibblejunior I've always found the 1-2 seating configuration towards the front of Arriva Pulsars 1513-1523 to be rather unusual. I think the HW07 Citaros that GNE used to have had a similar seating configuration.

Same with the side facing seats over the rear wheel arches that Arriva's ex-London DAF ALX400s had (as well as the Y-reg Lowlanders to a lesser extent).

The stairs being in the middle were the bigger problem, design flaw imo as it meant boarding was horribly long. Was a problem in London aswell since everyone boards the bus at the front. It was scrapped in the next batch of them and it gave a right weird layout. They only seated 17 people downstairs in their original layout because of it and were dark imo.

Believe the earliest version of GoAhead's Presidents were the same which got scrapped pretty fast aswell.

Storx

24 Jun 2023, 10:39 pm #529

(24 Jun 2023, 9:41 pm)wibblejunior I've always found the 1-2 seating configuration towards the front of Arriva Pulsars 1513-1523 to be rather unusual. I think the HW07 Citaros that GNE used to have had a similar seating configuration.

Same with the side facing seats over the rear wheel arches that Arriva's ex-London DAF ALX400s had (as well as the Y-reg Lowlanders to a lesser extent).

V514DFT

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25 Jun 2023, 12:47 am #530

Tell you what did have nasty seats, Arrivas Darts, was it 1751 onwards, they had really thin horrible uncomortable seats, used to dread them turning up on the then 343/344, 350/351, M55

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

25 Jun 2023, 12:47 am #530

Tell you what did have nasty seats, Arrivas Darts, was it 1751 onwards, they had really thin horrible uncomortable seats, used to dread them turning up on the then 343/344, 350/351, M55

Kind Regards
Tez

Storx

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25 Jun 2023, 12:24 pm #531

(25 Jun 2023, 12:47 am)V514DFT Tell you what did have nasty seats, Arrivas Darts, was it 1751 onwards, they had really thin horrible uncomortable seats, used to dread them turning up on the then 343/344, 350/351, M55

Didn't the Darts just have Civic V3's like everything else bar 1799 which had Urban 90's. The ones beforehand having old bench seating - they must've been some of the last buses in the country to get them aswell as they were pretty much out then.

Edit: Just checked and it appears the W Reg ones, 1751 - 1757 had them aswell, foul seats. They weren't based at Blyth so never got them so be how I missed them.

Storx

25 Jun 2023, 12:24 pm #531

(25 Jun 2023, 12:47 am)V514DFT Tell you what did have nasty seats, Arrivas Darts, was it 1751 onwards, they had really thin horrible uncomortable seats, used to dread them turning up on the then 343/344, 350/351, M55

V514DFT

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25 Jun 2023, 1:23 pm #532

(25 Jun 2023, 12:24 pm)Storx Didn't the Darts just have Civic V3's like everything else bar 1799 which had Urban 90's. The ones beforehand having old bench seating - they must've been some of the last buses in the country to get them aswell as they were pretty much out then.

Edit: Just checked and it appears the W Reg ones, 1751 - 1757 had them aswell, foul seats. They weren't based at Blyth so never got them so be how I missed them.

Im not too sure tbh, i just know they had thin ironingboard seats, nasty things they were

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

25 Jun 2023, 1:23 pm #532

(25 Jun 2023, 12:24 pm)Storx Didn't the Darts just have Civic V3's like everything else bar 1799 which had Urban 90's. The ones beforehand having old bench seating - they must've been some of the last buses in the country to get them aswell as they were pretty much out then.

Edit: Just checked and it appears the W Reg ones, 1751 - 1757 had them aswell, foul seats. They weren't based at Blyth so never got them so be how I missed them.

Im not too sure tbh, i just know they had thin ironingboard seats, nasty things they were

Kind Regards
Tez

Storx

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25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm #533

(25 Jun 2023, 1:23 pm)V514DFT Im not too sure tbh, i just know they had thin ironingboard seats, nasty things they were

https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5716410208 - These things? Horrid things, don't know why anyone would order them anywhere but that's what some darts had.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MOVYEYFn5Vc/TQ...CF0754.JPG - The Ciclo's are just as bad, they're used on the back of DB300's at Blyth downstairs and above the wheel arch. Might aswell be sitting on plastic.

Storx

25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm #533

(25 Jun 2023, 1:23 pm)V514DFT Im not too sure tbh, i just know they had thin ironingboard seats, nasty things they were

V514DFT

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25 Jun 2023, 5:52 pm #534

(25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm)Storx https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5716410208 - These things? Horrid things, don't know why anyone would order them anywhere but that's what some darts had.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MOVYEYFn5Vc/TQ...CF0754.JPG - The Ciclo's are just as bad, they're used on the back of DB300's at Blyth downstairs and above the wheel arch. Might aswell be sitting on plastic.

Yes, those things, absolutely detested them

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

25 Jun 2023, 5:52 pm #534

(25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm)Storx https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5716410208 - These things? Horrid things, don't know why anyone would order them anywhere but that's what some darts had.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MOVYEYFn5Vc/TQ...CF0754.JPG - The Ciclo's are just as bad, they're used on the back of DB300's at Blyth downstairs and above the wheel arch. Might aswell be sitting on plastic.

Yes, those things, absolutely detested them

Kind Regards
Tez

wibblejunior

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25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm #535

(25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm)Storx https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5716410208 - These things? Horrid things, don't know why anyone would order them anywhere but that's what some darts had.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MOVYEYFn5Vc/TQ...CF0754.JPG - The Ciclo's are just as bad, they're used on the back of DB300's at Blyth downstairs and above the wheel arch. Might aswell be sitting on plastic.

I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

wibblejunior

25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm #535

(25 Jun 2023, 3:16 pm)Storx https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/5716410208 - These things? Horrid things, don't know why anyone would order them anywhere but that's what some darts had.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MOVYEYFn5Vc/TQ...CF0754.JPG - The Ciclo's are just as bad, they're used on the back of DB300's at Blyth downstairs and above the wheel arch. Might aswell be sitting on plastic.

I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

Storx

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25 Jun 2023, 10:10 pm #536

(25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm)wibblejunior I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

I haven't been on them but yeah they are I believe. Everything in London got them around 2009/10 until they changed their mind as people were moaning. They're vandal proof supposedly, but I guess if you have nothing to burn they always will be.

Storx

25 Jun 2023, 10:10 pm #536

(25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm)wibblejunior I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

Retro Nero

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26 Jun 2023, 9:34 am #537

(25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm)wibblejunior I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

Shouldn't this be on the Arriva page?

Retro Nero

26 Jun 2023, 9:34 am #537

(25 Jun 2023, 8:13 pm)wibblejunior I'm pretty sure these are the same seats that 1320-8 have as well.

Shouldn't this be on the Arriva page?

WestDurhamSwift

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27 Jun 2023, 1:57 pm #538

Former GNE 6334 is now at GNW and has had itself another refurbishment ready for the BEE Network.

(Photo on Flickr cw_135)

https://flickr.com/photos/191911766@N04/...Xb-2izmsBf

WestDurhamSwift

27 Jun 2023, 1:57 pm #538

Former GNE 6334 is now at GNW and has had itself another refurbishment ready for the BEE Network.

(Photo on Flickr cw_135)

https://flickr.com/photos/191911766@N04/...Xb-2izmsBf

streetdeckfan

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27 Jun 2023, 3:03 pm #539

(27 Jun 2023, 1:57 pm)Arcticrossy92 Former GNE 6334 is now at GNW and has had itself another refurbishment ready for the BEE Network.

(Photo on Flickr cw_135)

https://flickr.com/photos/191911766@N04/...Xb-2izmsBf

Wonder how much public money is going to be wasted repainting and refurbing all these buses?

streetdeckfan

27 Jun 2023, 3:03 pm #539

(27 Jun 2023, 1:57 pm)Arcticrossy92 Former GNE 6334 is now at GNW and has had itself another refurbishment ready for the BEE Network.

(Photo on Flickr cw_135)

https://flickr.com/photos/191911766@N04/...Xb-2izmsBf

Wonder how much public money is going to be wasted repainting and refurbing all these buses?

busmanT

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27 Jun 2023, 8:45 pm #540

(27 Jun 2023, 3:03 pm)streetdeckfan Wonder how much public money is going to be wasted repainting and refurbing all these buses?

Why is it a waste of public money?

The repainting and refurbishment is a requirement of the BEE network contract, contract conditions set by a public body and the Mayor.

busmanT

27 Jun 2023, 8:45 pm #540

(27 Jun 2023, 3:03 pm)streetdeckfan Wonder how much public money is going to be wasted repainting and refurbing all these buses?

Why is it a waste of public money?

The repainting and refurbishment is a requirement of the BEE network contract, contract conditions set by a public body and the Mayor.

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