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27 Jul 2021, 12:16 am #161
(26 Jul 2021, 10:29 pm)Rapidsnap Going to take a guess at the 3 tbc Sunderland district brands...

Blue - Sunderland District Drifter for 60/61
Purple - Sunderland District Plums for the 39
Black - Sunderland District Minilinks for 33 / 38 / 38A / 938

I would have perhaps suggested Blueberries and Blackberries if they continue along the fruit theme, but I doubt they'd go with that since they've got 'Berries' already
streetdeckfan
27 Jul 2021, 12:16 am #161

(26 Jul 2021, 10:29 pm)Rapidsnap Going to take a guess at the 3 tbc Sunderland district brands...

Blue - Sunderland District Drifter for 60/61
Purple - Sunderland District Plums for the 39
Black - Sunderland District Minilinks for 33 / 38 / 38A / 938

I would have perhaps suggested Blueberries and Blackberries if they continue along the fruit theme, but I doubt they'd go with that since they've got 'Berries' already

cbma06



2,669
27 Jul 2021, 7:28 am #162
(26 Jul 2021, 10:29 pm)Rapidsnap Going to take a guess at the 3 tbc Sunderland district brands...

Blue - Sunderland District Drifter for 60/61
Purple - Sunderland District Plums for the 39
Black - Sunderland District Minilinks for 33 / 38 / 38A / 938


Don’t forget service 55, I wonder if the 55 would join the Peterlee brand?


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cbma06
27 Jul 2021, 7:28 am #162

(26 Jul 2021, 10:29 pm)Rapidsnap Going to take a guess at the 3 tbc Sunderland district brands...

Blue - Sunderland District Drifter for 60/61
Purple - Sunderland District Plums for the 39
Black - Sunderland District Minilinks for 33 / 38 / 38A / 938


Don’t forget service 55, I wonder if the 55 would join the Peterlee brand?


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N1cholas



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27 Jul 2021, 8:17 am #163
The Black solo's could be named Sunderland District LoCoals in recognition of the mining heritage of the villages they serve hence the charcoal grey colour, im sure Dan said that not all Sunderland District brands would be fruit related
N1cholas
27 Jul 2021, 8:17 am #163

The Black solo's could be named Sunderland District LoCoals in recognition of the mining heritage of the villages they serve hence the charcoal grey colour, im sure Dan said that not all Sunderland District brands would be fruit related

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 9:04 am #164
So far it looks like


8332
8333
8334
8336
8337

Have all re-entered service on the 2/2A


With, now looks, like they're out for repaint: (dates indicate last time they were in service)


8329 - 23rd July
8330 - 25th July
8331 - 13th July
8335 - 24th July

All above should go "Berries"


With:

8326 - 8328 as spares?

(27 Jul 2021, 8:17 am)N1cholas The Black solo's could be named Sunderland District LoCoals in recognition of the mining heritage of the villages they serve hence the charcoal grey colour, im sure Dan said that not all Sunderland District brands would be fruit related

When are they actually getting branded?, feels like some of them have been in the base livery for months.
Edited 27 Jul 2021, 9:04 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 9:04 am #164

So far it looks like


8332
8333
8334
8336
8337

Have all re-entered service on the 2/2A


With, now looks, like they're out for repaint: (dates indicate last time they were in service)


8329 - 23rd July
8330 - 25th July
8331 - 13th July
8335 - 24th July

All above should go "Berries"


With:

8326 - 8328 as spares?


(27 Jul 2021, 8:17 am)N1cholas The Black solo's could be named Sunderland District LoCoals in recognition of the mining heritage of the villages they serve hence the charcoal grey colour, im sure Dan said that not all Sunderland District brands would be fruit related

When are they actually getting branded?, feels like some of them have been in the base livery for months.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
27 Jul 2021, 9:13 am #165
(27 Jul 2021, 9:04 am)Michael So far it looks like


8332
8333
8334
8336
8337

Have all re-entered service on the 2/2A


With, now looks, like they're out for repaint: (dates indicate last time they were in service) 


8329 - 23rd July
8330 - 25th July
8331 - 13th July
8335 -  24th July

All above should go "Berries"


With:

8326 - 8328 as spares?

Those are euro 6, so will probs be an older versa
Believe this is correct
8294-8309 Euro 4
8310-8318 Euro 5
8319-8328 Euro 6
8329-8338 Euro 5

Think however some of the 09 plates might be euro 5? Not sure
JP6004
27 Jul 2021, 9:13 am #165

(27 Jul 2021, 9:04 am)Michael So far it looks like


8332
8333
8334
8336
8337

Have all re-entered service on the 2/2A


With, now looks, like they're out for repaint: (dates indicate last time they were in service) 


8329 - 23rd July
8330 - 25th July
8331 - 13th July
8335 -  24th July

All above should go "Berries"


With:

8326 - 8328 as spares?

Those are euro 6, so will probs be an older versa
Believe this is correct
8294-8309 Euro 4
8310-8318 Euro 5
8319-8328 Euro 6
8329-8338 Euro 5

Think however some of the 09 plates might be euro 5? Not sure

N1cholas



243
27 Jul 2021, 9:17 am #166
No one knows when they will be branded or what they will be called apart from a few in GNE towers, maybe september at a guess but who knows, the berries and cherries do look good though
N1cholas
27 Jul 2021, 9:17 am #166

No one knows when they will be branded or what they will be called apart from a few in GNE towers, maybe september at a guess but who knows, the berries and cherries do look good though

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 9:19 am #167
(27 Jul 2021, 9:13 am)JP6004 Those are euro 6, so will probs be an older versa
Believe this is correct
8294-8309 Euro 4
8310-8318 Euro 5
8319-8328 Euro 6
8329-8338 Euro 5

Think however some of the 09 plates might be euro 5? Not sure

Ah right, I wasn't sure if anymore had been converted to euro 6, as we've had no updates for a while.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 9:19 am #167

(27 Jul 2021, 9:13 am)JP6004 Those are euro 6, so will probs be an older versa
Believe this is correct
8294-8309 Euro 4
8310-8318 Euro 5
8319-8328 Euro 6
8329-8338 Euro 5

Think however some of the 09 plates might be euro 5? Not sure

Ah right, I wasn't sure if anymore had been converted to euro 6, as we've had no updates for a while.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
27 Jul 2021, 9:50 am #168
(27 Jul 2021, 9:19 am)Michael Ah right, I wasn't sure if anymore had been converted to euro 6, as we've had no updates for a while.
Think it's just that batch and the LWB versas that have been upgraded. Didnt MG say the 25 were getting refurbed deckers. Dont know where from but possibly reason why no more versas been done
JP6004
27 Jul 2021, 9:50 am #168

(27 Jul 2021, 9:19 am)Michael Ah right, I wasn't sure if anymore had been converted to euro 6, as we've had no updates for a while.
Think it's just that batch and the LWB versas that have been upgraded. Didnt MG say the 25 were getting refurbed deckers. Dont know where from but possibly reason why no more versas been done

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am #169
(27 Jul 2021, 9:50 am)JP6004 Think it's just that batch and the LWB versas that have been upgraded. Didnt MG say the 25 were getting refurbed deckers. Dont know where from but possibly reason why no more versas been done

Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am #169

(27 Jul 2021, 9:50 am)JP6004 Think it's just that batch and the LWB versas that have been upgraded. Didnt MG say the 25 were getting refurbed deckers. Dont know where from but possibly reason why no more versas been done

Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
27 Jul 2021, 10:11 am #170
(27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am)Michael Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?
Hmmmm that would be fun  Confused
JP6004
27 Jul 2021, 10:11 am #170

(27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am)Michael Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?
Hmmmm that would be fun  Confused

27 Jul 2021, 10:31 am #171
(27 Jul 2021, 10:11 am)JP6004 Hmmmm that would be fun  Confused

As long as the OmniDekkas don't leak, I actually don't mind them.
Tbh, I'd take an OmniDekka over the B9s they put on the EG Loop/Rider
streetdeckfan
27 Jul 2021, 10:31 am #171

(27 Jul 2021, 10:11 am)JP6004 Hmmmm that would be fun  Confused

As long as the OmniDekkas don't leak, I actually don't mind them.
Tbh, I'd take an OmniDekka over the B9s they put on the EG Loop/Rider

Storx



4,634
27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am #172
(27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am)Michael Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?

26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.
Storx
27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am #172

(27 Jul 2021, 10:09 am)Michael Ah right thank you for the information!

Ye, no idea which deckers those will be though, unless they decide to convert some of the longer Omnidekka's to Euro 6 alongside a small refurb?

26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 11:51 am #173
(27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am)Storx 26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.


All of the FAB 56 buses were repainted and rebranded to the number they needed, with 6086/6087 the only 2 spares Deptford for the 56, so doubt they'll move.


For the 26, I don't ever see it, so can't comment on the passenger numbers etc but it doesn't go in the CAZ zone so don't need euro 6 buses.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 11:51 am #173

(27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am)Storx 26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.


All of the FAB 56 buses were repainted and rebranded to the number they needed, with 6086/6087 the only 2 spares Deptford for the 56, so doubt they'll move.


For the 26, I don't ever see it, so can't comment on the passenger numbers etc but it doesn't go in the CAZ zone so don't need euro 6 buses.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
27 Jul 2021, 11:55 am #174
(27 Jul 2021, 11:51 am)Michael All of the FAB 56 buses were repainted and rebranded to the number they needed, with 6086/6087 the only 2 spares Deptford for the 56, so doubt they'll move.


For the 26, I don't ever see it, so can't comment on the passenger numbers etc but it doesn't go in the CAZ zone so don't need euro 6 buses.
Probably as many as the vaccine shuttles  Tongue surely they could find a way to merge the 5 and 26
JP6004
27 Jul 2021, 11:55 am #174

(27 Jul 2021, 11:51 am)Michael All of the FAB 56 buses were repainted and rebranded to the number they needed, with 6086/6087 the only 2 spares Deptford for the 56, so doubt they'll move.


For the 26, I don't ever see it, so can't comment on the passenger numbers etc but it doesn't go in the CAZ zone so don't need euro 6 buses.
Probably as many as the vaccine shuttles  Tongue surely they could find a way to merge the 5 and 26

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm #175
(27 Jul 2021, 11:55 am)JP6004 Probably as many as the vaccine shuttles  Tongue surely they could find a way to merge the 5 and 26

Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm #175

(27 Jul 2021, 11:55 am)JP6004 Probably as many as the vaccine shuttles  Tongue surely they could find a way to merge the 5 and 26

Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT



2,261
27 Jul 2021, 12:40 pm #176
(27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm)Michael Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?
If that is the case i can see the 26 going

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
27 Jul 2021, 12:40 pm #176

(27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm)Michael Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?
If that is the case i can see the 26 going


Kind Regards
Tez

JP6004



1,833
27 Jul 2021, 12:41 pm #177
(27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm)Michael Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?
Depends what day in september too
JP6004
27 Jul 2021, 12:41 pm #177

(27 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm)Michael Martijn said in one of his live updates, that changes were planned for September.... but didn't say what....... they should of been appearing on VOSA by now, as I'm sure its 56 days for when changes have to be registered or is that rule still relaxed due to Covid?
Depends what day in september too

Michael



19,175
27 Jul 2021, 12:45 pm #178
(27 Jul 2021, 12:41 pm)JP6004 Depends what day in september too

Should be around the 6th September, as most of the schools should be going back.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Jul 2021, 12:45 pm #178

(27 Jul 2021, 12:41 pm)JP6004 Depends what day in september too

Should be around the 6th September, as most of the schools should be going back.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,556
27 Jul 2021, 12:46 pm #179
(27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am)Storx 26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.
The Crusader PVR if the 26 is made standalone will be 11x. That leaves 6001, 49 and 50 as spares.

The 56 only needs 1x spare (got 6087). That leaves the following B9TLs surplus as long as nothing changes:

6084, 6085, 6086, 6099

6001, 6049, 6050, 6099 & 6377 could form Riverside / Hexham's decker spares for the 27 / 58 / 93 & 94 / Tyne Valley Ten / X9 & X10.

6084-86 could replace the 3x ex TTX branded buses on the Tyne Valley Ten. That would then allow 6043-6048 to go on the 25 with a PVR of 6x.
L469 YVK
27 Jul 2021, 12:46 pm #179

(27 Jul 2021, 11:36 am)Storx 26/56 deckers possibly? I'm sure it's not a co-incidence that there's not enough painted for both the 26 and 27 and the branding just pretends that the 26 doesn't exist at all. Also there was the frequency decrease on the 56 so should be a few spare there aswell.

The 26 definitely doesn't warrant deckers, but not sure what else it could interwork with (if anything) but they're wasted on there atm.
The Crusader PVR if the 26 is made standalone will be 11x. That leaves 6001, 49 and 50 as spares.

The 56 only needs 1x spare (got 6087). That leaves the following B9TLs surplus as long as nothing changes:

6084, 6085, 6086, 6099

6001, 6049, 6050, 6099 & 6377 could form Riverside / Hexham's decker spares for the 27 / 58 / 93 & 94 / Tyne Valley Ten / X9 & X10.

6084-86 could replace the 3x ex TTX branded buses on the Tyne Valley Ten. That would then allow 6043-6048 to go on the 25 with a PVR of 6x.

L469 YVK



3,556
27 Jul 2021, 3:50 pm #180
So to summarise a speculative B9TL allocation

Total Volvo B9TL at GNE from "new" (excl Lothian): 67x
Total Volvo B9TL at GNE ex London: 13x

**Total active PVR = 72x**
Riverside - Crusader = 11x
Riverside / Hexham - Tyne Valley Ten = 16x
Deptford - CityRider = 11x
Percy Main - Cobalt & Coast = 16x
Riverside - East Gateshead Rider = 6x
Riverside - East Gateshead Loop = 6x
Chester Le Street - GNE 25 = 6x

**Spares = 8x**
- Riverside / Hexham (x5) - 6001, 6049, 6050, 6099, 6160
- Deptford (x1) - 6087
- Percy Main (x2) - 6100, 6101

25 doesn't need anything "fancy" as a spare. Above spares don't take into account 6336/6337 at Hexham or 6377 also additionally being available.
L469 YVK
27 Jul 2021, 3:50 pm #180

So to summarise a speculative B9TL allocation

Total Volvo B9TL at GNE from "new" (excl Lothian): 67x
Total Volvo B9TL at GNE ex London: 13x

**Total active PVR = 72x**
Riverside - Crusader = 11x
Riverside / Hexham - Tyne Valley Ten = 16x
Deptford - CityRider = 11x
Percy Main - Cobalt & Coast = 16x
Riverside - East Gateshead Rider = 6x
Riverside - East Gateshead Loop = 6x
Chester Le Street - GNE 25 = 6x

**Spares = 8x**
- Riverside / Hexham (x5) - 6001, 6049, 6050, 6099, 6160
- Deptford (x1) - 6087
- Percy Main (x2) - 6100, 6101

25 doesn't need anything "fancy" as a spare. Above spares don't take into account 6336/6337 at Hexham or 6377 also additionally being available.

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