X21 B5 reliability
X21 B5 reliability
(25 Jan 2022, 6:13 pm)Omega54 That is a awful shame. I wonder if there will be any arrests, or if it was a pure accident.I can imagine they will be pretty traumatised by it.
RIP to the victim. I feel really bad for the driver & any passengers which saw it.
(25 Jan 2022, 6:13 pm)Omega54 That is a awful shame. I wonder if there will be any arrests, or if it was a pure accident.I can imagine they will be pretty traumatised by it.
RIP to the victim. I feel really bad for the driver & any passengers which saw it.
(25 Jan 2022, 6:41 pm)GNE6312 What euro are 6177-82 as they seem to be good on the X21, also if they're not euro 6 are they getting upgraded to euro 6 for X21 spares which they seam to be atm.They are Euro 5 - Chances are with them being around 15yrs old I doubt it.
(29 Jan 2022, 11:20 pm)GNE6312 Suggestion to fix the reliability issues for the X21
6308-6314/34/35 sold, they're too unreliable more so than the interdecks.
Buy 12x Scania E400MMCs, 10x X21 branded and 2 spares to be X lines Charcoal
(29 Jan 2022, 11:20 pm)GNE6312 Suggestion to fix the reliability issues for the X21
6308-6314/34/35 sold, they're too unreliable more so than the interdecks.
Buy 12x Scania E400MMCs, 10x X21 branded and 2 spares to be X lines Charcoal
(29 Jan 2022, 11:35 pm)busmanT And which of its magic money trees are Go North East going to use to buy the new buses, and write down the loss on the value of the "unreliable" buses that they are going to sell?If the B5TLs are indeed 'actually' unreliable (and not just off road for long periods due to parts & labour shortages) GNE do have internal resources that they could use.
And why buy Scania, they haven't bought any for many years, another vehicle type for the engineers to contend with.
(29 Jan 2022, 11:35 pm)busmanT And which of its magic money trees are Go North East going to use to buy the new buses, and write down the loss on the value of the "unreliable" buses that they are going to sell?If the B5TLs are indeed 'actually' unreliable (and not just off road for long periods due to parts & labour shortages) GNE do have internal resources that they could use.
And why buy Scania, they haven't bought any for many years, another vehicle type for the engineers to contend with.
I thought the B5s had been fairly reliable since they moved over to the X21, they rarely seem to actually break down in service, which to me implies they are probably off road for scheduled maintenance.
(30 Jan 2022, 12:18 am)streetdeckfan I thought the B5s had been fairly reliable since they moved over to the X21, they rarely seem to actually break down in service, which to me implies they are probably off road for scheduled maintenance.Granted their is currently 3 off atm, but with 6334 back count that as 2.
(30 Jan 2022, 12:18 am)streetdeckfan I thought the B5s had been fairly reliable since they moved over to the X21, they rarely seem to actually break down in service, which to me implies they are probably off road for scheduled maintenance.Granted their is currently 3 off atm, but with 6334 back count that as 2.
(30 Jan 2022, 12:20 am)Omega54 Granted their is currently 3 off atm, but with 6334 back count that as 2.
But you will nearly always see everyday either a OmniDekka or a Voyager on them.
(30 Jan 2022, 12:20 am)Omega54 Granted their is currently 3 off atm, but with 6334 back count that as 2.
But you will nearly always see everyday either a OmniDekka or a Voyager on them.
There's only 2 that have been off for a while now, 6312 is at Volvo and 6314 which ive not seen around the depot for a few weeks so I assume that's at Volvo too
Are 31 - 33 going into corporate livery when they get back to Chester Dan?
(30 Jan 2022, 5:02 am)Dan So what you’re saying is there’s an issue with lack of spare vehicles - every bus needs to be kept off the road, and this time is vastly increased amid a staff shortage (which not only applies to drivers but engineers too - and not just at GNE but at contractors such as Volvo also) and parts supply issue.Surely it would make sense to use 2x out of 6331-33 to make up the PVR of the X21 rather than 6334/35?
Luckily as has been said previously GNE have a plan to move 6331-33 to Chester-le-Street now they are surplus to requirements on the X45/6, and there’s your appropriate spare vehicles for the 21/X21.
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(30 Jan 2022, 5:02 am)Dan So what you’re saying is there’s an issue with lack of spare vehicles - every bus needs to be kept off the road, and this time is vastly increased amid a staff shortage (which not only applies to drivers but engineers too - and not just at GNE but at contractors such as Volvo also) and parts supply issue.Surely it would make sense to use 2x out of 6331-33 to make up the PVR of the X21 rather than 6334/35?
Luckily as has been said previously GNE have a plan to move 6331-33 to Chester-le-Street now they are surplus to requirements on the X45/6, and there’s your appropriate spare vehicles for the 21/X21.
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I'm surprised 6310 re-entered service so quickly after the incident, in the past haven't vehicles been impounded for longer for similar things?
(30 Jan 2022, 11:52 am)streetdeckfan I'm surprised 6310 re-entered service so quickly after the incident, in the past haven't vehicles been impounded for longer for similar things?
(30 Jan 2022, 11:52 am)streetdeckfan I'm surprised 6310 re-entered service so quickly after the incident, in the past haven't vehicles been impounded for longer for similar things?
(30 Jan 2022, 5:02 am)Dan So what you’re saying is there’s an issue with lack of spare vehicles - every bus needs to be kept off the road, and this time is vastly increased amid a staff shortage (which not only applies to drivers but engineers too - and not just at GNE but at contractors such as Volvo also) and parts supply issue.
Luckily as has been said previously GNE have a plan to move 6331-33 to Chester-le-Street now they are surplus to requirements on the X45/6, and there’s your appropriate spare vehicles for the 21/X21.
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(30 Jan 2022, 5:02 am)Dan So what you’re saying is there’s an issue with lack of spare vehicles - every bus needs to be kept off the road, and this time is vastly increased amid a staff shortage (which not only applies to drivers but engineers too - and not just at GNE but at contractors such as Volvo also) and parts supply issue.
Luckily as has been said previously GNE have a plan to move 6331-33 to Chester-le-Street now they are surplus to requirements on the X45/6, and there’s your appropriate spare vehicles for the 21/X21.
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The B5TLs shouldn't be anywhere near the X21, all good putting down to external factors but if roughly 50% of the PVR is off the road regularly, then something needs to be asked.
Yes the E400MMC & StreetDecks aren't 'perfect' but they're proven machines. Arriva have happily used E400MMCs and E40D's (classics) out of Ashington either on the X21/X22 or up the Coast on the X15/X18 without major trouble although some are getting on now due to their age.
I've said this before but if there's future changes in Derwentside and a split of the X30/X31 (PVR 5x standalone) and X70/X71/X72 (PVR 7x standalone), it would make sense swapping 6343-51 with 6308-14, 34, 35. As long as 6336 could be released from Riverside so that there's a low bridge decker to cover for 6338-42 on the X30/X31, that would still give the same spare ratio as now at Consett with 2x B5TL (6334-35) and 1x E400MMC (6336) plus 6064 as a last resort.
(23 Apr 2022, 2:26 pm)Unber43 Update - only 2 x21's are on. Which means like 3 X21's Broke Down, 6334, and the Flexibility streetdeck, which broke down after being replaced at CLS, to break down 17 mins later - and is now back in service replacing another X21.Husband and youngest spied the flexility Street deck with very fed up looking driver and passengers at county hall
Not a good day.
(23 Apr 2022, 2:26 pm)Unber43 Update - only 2 x21's are on. Which means like 3 X21's Broke Down, 6334, and the Flexibility streetdeck, which broke down after being replaced at CLS, to break down 17 mins later - and is now back in service replacing another X21.Husband and youngest spied the flexility Street deck with very fed up looking driver and passengers at county hall
Not a good day.
