58 Extension to Follingsby Park
58 Extension to Follingsby Park
(19 Jan 2022, 9:06 am)Train8261 That sounds like a good idea but wouldn't that mean more deckers for the 58
(19 Jan 2022, 9:06 am)Train8261 That sounds like a good idea but wouldn't that mean more deckers for the 58
Has it been confirmed to be running to Heworth as it would seem more sensible to cut the corner off at Meresyde or Cotemede / Leam Lane and run direct cutting Heworth off and offer a faster service direct to Newcastle / Gateshead instead without a change would get the PVR down aswell.
The 58 to Heworth from the rest of the route is covered by the 51/52, 57 or 93/94 depending where you are on the route.
Albion Street, Whitehill Drive and Staneway would be left without a service to Heworth. Why miss Heworth anyway? That's were the passengers are going to be.
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(19 Jan 2022, 12:46 pm)Expresslink Albion Street, Whitehill Drive and Staneway would be left without a service to Heworth. Why miss Heworth anyway? That's were the passengers are going to be.
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(19 Jan 2022, 12:46 pm)Expresslink Albion Street, Whitehill Drive and Staneway would be left without a service to Heworth. Why miss Heworth anyway? That's were the passengers are going to be.
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(19 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Storx Aye that's fair just checked how long the 58 took, didn't realise it took so long. It would never be competitive as an alternative using a bus throughout.
(19 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Storx Aye that's fair just checked how long the 58 took, didn't realise it took so long. It would never be competitive as an alternative using a bus throughout.
(19 Jan 2022, 1:36 pm)Dan It's not about competiton.
I've said on this forum several times in recent months, competition is dead. Integration (between buses, or different forms of public transport) is the way forward, and will likely see rationalisation in some areas where there is duplication.
This proposal and the consultation to Amazon's employees is about offering more buses per hour from Follingsby to Heworth (up to every 7-8 mins combined with the 4, instead of every 12 mins only with the 4), and provide a service to more areas than is currently being offered, for any of their Associates that live in Windy Nook, Felling, etc, who would then have a direct bus service instead of changing buses at Heworth.
A regular opinion on this forum is that the 'hub and spoke' model doesn't work - so this is an example of where Go North East is proposing to shuffle resource around slightly to offer a direct bus service, even if it does take a little bit longer than the hub and spoke method.
(19 Jan 2022, 1:36 pm)Dan It's not about competiton.
I've said on this forum several times in recent months, competition is dead. Integration (between buses, or different forms of public transport) is the way forward, and will likely see rationalisation in some areas where there is duplication.
This proposal and the consultation to Amazon's employees is about offering more buses per hour from Follingsby to Heworth (up to every 7-8 mins combined with the 4, instead of every 12 mins only with the 4), and provide a service to more areas than is currently being offered, for any of their Associates that live in Windy Nook, Felling, etc, who would then have a direct bus service instead of changing buses at Heworth.
A regular opinion on this forum is that the 'hub and spoke' model doesn't work - so this is an example of where Go North East is proposing to shuffle resource around slightly to offer a direct bus service, even if it does take a little bit longer than the hub and spoke method.
(19 Jan 2022, 1:36 pm)Dan It's not about competiton.If it does will the PVR increase?
I've said on this forum several times in recent months, competition is dead. Integration (between buses, or different forms of public transport) is the way forward, and will likely see rationalisation in some areas where there is duplication.
This proposal and the consultation to Amazon's employees is about offering more buses per hour from Follingsby to Heworth (up to every 7-8 mins combined with the 4, instead of every 12 mins only with the 4), and provide a service to more areas than is currently being offered, for any of their Associates that live in Windy Nook, Felling, etc, who would then have a direct bus service instead of changing buses at Heworth.
A regular opinion on this forum is that the 'hub and spoke' model doesn't work - so this is an example of where Go North East is proposing to shuffle resource around slightly to offer a direct bus service, even if it does take a little bit longer than the hub and spoke method.
(19 Jan 2022, 1:36 pm)Dan It's not about competiton.If it does will the PVR increase?
I've said on this forum several times in recent months, competition is dead. Integration (between buses, or different forms of public transport) is the way forward, and will likely see rationalisation in some areas where there is duplication.
This proposal and the consultation to Amazon's employees is about offering more buses per hour from Follingsby to Heworth (up to every 7-8 mins combined with the 4, instead of every 12 mins only with the 4), and provide a service to more areas than is currently being offered, for any of their Associates that live in Windy Nook, Felling, etc, who would then have a direct bus service instead of changing buses at Heworth.
A regular opinion on this forum is that the 'hub and spoke' model doesn't work - so this is an example of where Go North East is proposing to shuffle resource around slightly to offer a direct bus service, even if it does take a little bit longer than the hub and spoke method.
How about sending the 58 via Mereside/High Lanes to Heworth only, with the 51/52 doing Milford - Lingey Lane-Follingsby-Fast to/from Heworth?
Fewster Square/Colegate/Heworth is covered by the 57 anyway
That way you open up more of the Gateshead residential areas to a direct bus to/from Amazon
(19 Jan 2022, 7:01 pm)DeltaMan How about sending the 58 via Mereside/High Lanes to Heworth only, with the 51/52 doing Milford - Lingey Lane-Follingsby-Fast to/from Heworth?
Fewster Square/Colegate/Heworth is covered by the 57 anyway
That way you open up more of the Gateshead residential areas to a direct bus to/from Amazon
(19 Jan 2022, 7:01 pm)DeltaMan How about sending the 58 via Mereside/High Lanes to Heworth only, with the 51/52 doing Milford - Lingey Lane-Follingsby-Fast to/from Heworth?
Fewster Square/Colegate/Heworth is covered by the 57 anyway
That way you open up more of the Gateshead residential areas to a direct bus to/from Amazon
Would make sense, the 58 was the service rumoured to get the next set of electric buses, due this year, a route extension puts the PVR up to 8 (due to layover time etc) - leaving 1 spare from the batch (2 overall).
I wonder what other service(s) could be extended in the future?
(19 Jan 2022, 8:45 pm)Michael Would make sense, the 58 was the service rumoured to get the next set of electric buses, due this year, a route extension puts the PVR up to 8 (due to layover time etc) - leaving 1 spare from the batch (2 overall).Maybe the X10 or 27 as Direct ways into Newcastle and Gateshead.
I wonder what other service(s) could be extended in the future?
(19 Jan 2022, 8:45 pm)Michael Would make sense, the 58 was the service rumoured to get the next set of electric buses, due this year, a route extension puts the PVR up to 8 (due to layover time etc) - leaving 1 spare from the batch (2 overall).Maybe the X10 or 27 as Direct ways into Newcastle and Gateshead.
I wonder what other service(s) could be extended in the future?
(19 Jan 2022, 8:45 pm)Michael Would make sense, the 58 was the service rumoured to get the next set of electric buses, due this year, a route extension puts the PVR up to 8 (due to layover time etc) - leaving 1 spare from the batch (2 overall).Stagecoach X24/A could divert through Follingsby when the through road from near Nissan opens
I wonder what other service(s) could be extended in the future?
(19 Jan 2022, 8:45 pm)Michael Would make sense, the 58 was the service rumoured to get the next set of electric buses, due this year, a route extension puts the PVR up to 8 (due to layover time etc) - leaving 1 spare from the batch (2 overall).Stagecoach X24/A could divert through Follingsby when the through road from near Nissan opens
I wonder what other service(s) could be extended in the future?
(20 Jan 2022, 8:57 am)busmanT Stagecoach X24/A could divert through Follingsby when the through road from near Nissan opens
Go North East 57 operates very close to Follingsby as well
(20 Jan 2022, 8:57 am)busmanT Stagecoach X24/A could divert through Follingsby when the through road from near Nissan opens
Go North East 57 operates very close to Follingsby as well
(20 Jan 2022, 9:56 am)Storx It'd be quite difficult to do the 57 because of it's loop. Mind imo they should split the 57 into a 57/57A and do one going one way around the loop every 30 minutes and the other every 30 minutes going in the opposite direction since they've upped it to every 15 minutes. I'm not sure if I lived in the Kier Hardie Avenue I could be chewed with sitting on a bus for 12 minutes going around estates when going home in the night or the same on Leam Lane heading towards to Heworth/Newcastle. Think I'd prefer the direct service every 30 minutes.Similar to the 41?
(20 Jan 2022, 9:56 am)Storx It'd be quite difficult to do the 57 because of it's loop. Mind imo they should split the 57 into a 57/57A and do one going one way around the loop every 30 minutes and the other every 30 minutes going in the opposite direction since they've upped it to every 15 minutes. I'm not sure if I lived in the Kier Hardie Avenue I could be chewed with sitting on a bus for 12 minutes going around estates when going home in the night or the same on Leam Lane heading towards to Heworth/Newcastle. Think I'd prefer the direct service every 30 minutes.Similar to the 41?
