Arriva North East: New buses 2022
Arriva North East: New buses 2022
(27 Mar 2022, 9:09 am)Andreos1 Saw a Solo on the X66 yesterday PM approaching Boro and it was rammed.All too frequent of an occurrence these days sadly, really wish we could get some more suitably sized buses to run some of these out of town services at Darlington.
(27 Mar 2022, 9:09 am)Andreos1 Saw a Solo on the X66 yesterday PM approaching Boro and it was rammed.All too frequent of an occurrence these days sadly, really wish we could get some more suitably sized buses to run some of these out of town services at Darlington.
(27 Mar 2022, 1:41 pm)Jimmi All too frequent of an occurrence these days sadly, really wish we could get some more suitably sized buses to run some of these out of town services at Darlington.Short term, I can't see it doing the services any good at all. Particularly when there's the rail alternative for a proportion of the passengers.
(27 Mar 2022, 1:41 pm)Jimmi All too frequent of an occurrence these days sadly, really wish we could get some more suitably sized buses to run some of these out of town services at Darlington.Short term, I can't see it doing the services any good at all. Particularly when there's the rail alternative for a proportion of the passengers.
(27 Mar 2022, 8:50 am)Storx Thanks for that, thought it was 2 but didn't realise it interworked with 56. Makes sense though. Definitely though especially with all the vehicles off the road.
Isn't there 14 Enviro 200 MMC's which I'm assuming are going to be MPD length (8.5m I think) to replace the Solo's there coming. I do agree with the rest of it though mind pretty much, but the X7-X11 will need more buses than that as there is currently Pulsars on daily, believe roughly 3 boards on the X7/X8/X9.
Personally though my random guess is:
Ashington:
1/2 - 8x Pulsar
35 - 2x Pulsar (1493 / 1501) / 2x Enviro 400 MMC
X20 - 2x Enviro 400 MMC / 2x Pulsar (1408 / 1411)
X21/X22 - Enviro 400 MMC
X14 - Pulsar (1502 - 1505) - Interworking with something??
X15 - Enviro 400 MMC
X18 - 6x Enviro 400 MMC
57/57A - Unknown
Blyth:
X7/X8/X9 - 14x Gemini
X10/X11 - ??? (7529 - 7533, 7553 - 7556 maybe?)
306/308 - 17x Gemini
52/53/54 - Streetlites
Jesmond:
43/44/45 - 6x Enviro 400 (7522 / 7524 - 7528) / 8x Pulsar (1500 / 1537 - 1543)
47 - Pulsar
685 - Pulsar (Sapphires)
Minibuses - Enviro 200 MMC
Other Depots:
X93/X94 Spares - 7557 / 7558 - 7560 / 7562
X46 - 7514 - 7517 / 7519 - 7521
B7TL Spare replacement - 7501 - 7509 / 7511 - 7512 (Spread between Blyth, Jesmond and Durham - maybe some at Ashington aswell).
I'm expecting to be very wrong
(27 Mar 2022, 8:50 am)Storx Thanks for that, thought it was 2 but didn't realise it interworked with 56. Makes sense though. Definitely though especially with all the vehicles off the road.
Isn't there 14 Enviro 200 MMC's which I'm assuming are going to be MPD length (8.5m I think) to replace the Solo's there coming. I do agree with the rest of it though mind pretty much, but the X7-X11 will need more buses than that as there is currently Pulsars on daily, believe roughly 3 boards on the X7/X8/X9.
Personally though my random guess is:
Ashington:
1/2 - 8x Pulsar
35 - 2x Pulsar (1493 / 1501) / 2x Enviro 400 MMC
X20 - 2x Enviro 400 MMC / 2x Pulsar (1408 / 1411)
X21/X22 - Enviro 400 MMC
X14 - Pulsar (1502 - 1505) - Interworking with something??
X15 - Enviro 400 MMC
X18 - 6x Enviro 400 MMC
57/57A - Unknown
Blyth:
X7/X8/X9 - 14x Gemini
X10/X11 - ??? (7529 - 7533, 7553 - 7556 maybe?)
306/308 - 17x Gemini
52/53/54 - Streetlites
Jesmond:
43/44/45 - 6x Enviro 400 (7522 / 7524 - 7528) / 8x Pulsar (1500 / 1537 - 1543)
47 - Pulsar
685 - Pulsar (Sapphires)
Minibuses - Enviro 200 MMC
Other Depots:
X93/X94 Spares - 7557 / 7558 - 7560 / 7562
X46 - 7514 - 7517 / 7519 - 7521
B7TL Spare replacement - 7501 - 7509 / 7511 - 7512 (Spread between Blyth, Jesmond and Durham - maybe some at Ashington aswell).
I'm expecting to be very wrong
(27 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm)peter Yeah you're right it is 14, not sure where I got 12 from lol, that would be enough to replace 14 of the current 16 Solo's, presumably the last two will also get the boot.
Personally I think it'll be:
Ashington:
1/2: 8 x Pulsar (1407/9/29/32/61/62/63/75)
35: 5 x ADL E400 (7509-12/14)
57/57A/58: 5 x Optare Solo (2845-49)
X14: 2 x ADL E400 + 1 x Pulsar (7515/16/1408)
X15: 4 x New MMC's
X18: 5 x New MMC's
X20: 4 x New MMC's
X21/X22: 7544-7552 + 6 x New MMC's
Spare: 1411, 1497, 2842-44, 7517, 7541-7543 (allocated to X14 if no MMC's VOR)
Blyth:
X7/X8/X9: 14 x Gemini (7601-8/11-15 + 1 E400)
X10/11: 8 x Gemini (7616-17/20-25)
308: 10 x Gemini (7628-7637)
43: 7 x E400 (7501-7507)
52/53/54: 13 x Streetlite (1575-78/81-89)
Spare: 1574, 7508, 7557/8/60/62
Newcastle:
46/46A/51/51A: 5 x New E200
47: 1 x Pulsar (1499)
55: 3 x New E200
553: 2 x New E200
555: 1 x New E200
685: 3 x Pulsar (1479/1512/1513)
306: 8 x Pulsar (1495/96/1500-1505)
44/45: 5 x Pulsar (1537-41)
Spare: 1480, 1493, 1542/43, 3 x New E200
Not sure if I've left enough spares but potentially: 7522-7528, 7529-7533, 7553-7556 could all go to the North East depots
(27 Mar 2022, 2:35 pm)peter Yeah you're right it is 14, not sure where I got 12 from lol, that would be enough to replace 14 of the current 16 Solo's, presumably the last two will also get the boot.
Personally I think it'll be:
Ashington:
1/2: 8 x Pulsar (1407/9/29/32/61/62/63/75)
35: 5 x ADL E400 (7509-12/14)
57/57A/58: 5 x Optare Solo (2845-49)
X14: 2 x ADL E400 + 1 x Pulsar (7515/16/1408)
X15: 4 x New MMC's
X18: 5 x New MMC's
X20: 4 x New MMC's
X21/X22: 7544-7552 + 6 x New MMC's
Spare: 1411, 1497, 2842-44, 7517, 7541-7543 (allocated to X14 if no MMC's VOR)
Blyth:
X7/X8/X9: 14 x Gemini (7601-8/11-15 + 1 E400)
X10/11: 8 x Gemini (7616-17/20-25)
308: 10 x Gemini (7628-7637)
43: 7 x E400 (7501-7507)
52/53/54: 13 x Streetlite (1575-78/81-89)
Spare: 1574, 7508, 7557/8/60/62
Newcastle:
46/46A/51/51A: 5 x New E200
47: 1 x Pulsar (1499)
55: 3 x New E200
553: 2 x New E200
555: 1 x New E200
685: 3 x Pulsar (1479/1512/1513)
306: 8 x Pulsar (1495/96/1500-1505)
44/45: 5 x Pulsar (1537-41)
Spare: 1480, 1493, 1542/43, 3 x New E200
Not sure if I've left enough spares but potentially: 7522-7528, 7529-7533, 7553-7556 could all go to the North East depots
(27 Mar 2022, 4:37 pm)Storx We'll have to see, not too dissimilar though. I do think the 306/308 will interwork though as they do on a Sunday over the 43 at Blyth though.Only drawback I could see potentially would be the dead mileage from the 306. If that stayed at Walkergate, the 43 could go to Blyth with relief at Cramlington also for the 52/53/54 and perhaps a bait room?
(27 Mar 2022, 4:37 pm)Storx We'll have to see, not too dissimilar though. I do think the 306/308 will interwork though as they do on a Sunday over the 43 at Blyth though.Only drawback I could see potentially would be the dead mileage from the 306. If that stayed at Walkergate, the 43 could go to Blyth with relief at Cramlington also for the 52/53/54 and perhaps a bait room?
(27 Mar 2022, 8:25 pm)L469 YVK Only drawback I could see potentially would be the dead mileage from the 306. If that stayed at Walkergate, the 43 could go to Blyth with relief at Cramlington also for the 52/53/54 and perhaps a bait room?
The issue I can see for the latter group of services is driving hours as there's no way a driver could do all three in a cycle and remain within driving hours. But saying that, a bullet there and back job on the 54 must already happen now with drivers just doing a there and back before the same bus goes back to work the 52 & 53 cycle?
Or.......the 53 could go standalone during the day (5 hour round trip) with the 52 & 54 interworking?
(27 Mar 2022, 8:25 pm)L469 YVK Only drawback I could see potentially would be the dead mileage from the 306. If that stayed at Walkergate, the 43 could go to Blyth with relief at Cramlington also for the 52/53/54 and perhaps a bait room?
The issue I can see for the latter group of services is driving hours as there's no way a driver could do all three in a cycle and remain within driving hours. But saying that, a bullet there and back job on the 54 must already happen now with drivers just doing a there and back before the same bus goes back to work the 52 & 53 cycle?
Or.......the 53 could go standalone during the day (5 hour round trip) with the 52 & 54 interworking?
In relation to suggestions of vehicle cascades when the new buses arrive, I am sure I read a post on here a while ago saying 7508, 9 and 22 had not had the euro 6 upgrades done. Does anyone know if they have been done now? If not I am just guessing they could be leaving Newcastle routes soon and cascaded to Durham.
Sorry I am not very informed with what's going on but I am interested in any details anyone has.
I was on 7629 yesterday for a change as opposed to the usual Volvo B9TL (was travelling from elsewhere on the Coast Road) and it felt very flat. Was holding gear for longer and taking a while to change up.
I don't remember a VDL DB300 being that flat and the driver definitely wasn't 'Sunday driving'.
Let's hope it's Blyth's turn next year.
(18 Apr 2022, 3:23 pm)L469 YVK I was on 7629 yesterday for a change as opposed to the usual Volvo B9TL (was travelling from elsewhere on the Coast Road) and it felt very flat. Was holding gear for longer and taking a while to change up.
I don't remember a VDL DB300 being that flat and the driver definitely wasn't 'Sunday driving'.
Let's hope it's Blyth's turn next year.
(18 Apr 2022, 3:23 pm)L469 YVK I was on 7629 yesterday for a change as opposed to the usual Volvo B9TL (was travelling from elsewhere on the Coast Road) and it felt very flat. Was holding gear for longer and taking a while to change up.
I don't remember a VDL DB300 being that flat and the driver definitely wasn't 'Sunday driving'.
Let's hope it's Blyth's turn next year.
(14 Jun 2022, 9:31 pm)L469 YVK Away from 'shysters' and #betterthanever , any news on Northumbria's new arrivals this summer?The first batch of Ashingtons new buses are due early next month, with the remainder arriving by the end of August.
(14 Jun 2022, 9:31 pm)L469 YVK Away from 'shysters' and #betterthanever , any news on Northumbria's new arrivals this summer?The first batch of Ashingtons new buses are due early next month, with the remainder arriving by the end of August.
They’re starting to arrive
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