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Malarkey



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30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm #1
1550 (NK14 GFY) & 1552 (NK14 GGA) has been repainted at Bus & Coach World Blackburn into Journey Mark's

1550 - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...ateposted/
1552 - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...ateposted/

Photos by Chris Hinds.
Malarkey
30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm #1

1550 (NK14 GFY) & 1552 (NK14 GGA) has been repainted at Bus & Coach World Blackburn into Journey Mark's

1550 - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...ateposted/
1552 - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...ateposted/

Photos by Chris Hinds.

30 Jun 2022, 1:18 pm #2
(30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm)Malarkey 1552 (NK14 GGA) has been repainted at Bus & Coach World Blackburn into Journey Mark's - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...1625834270 - Photo by Chris Hinds.


https://flic.kr/p/2nvmw7x

1550 as well


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TEN 6083
30 Jun 2022, 1:18 pm #2

(30 Jun 2022, 1:17 pm)Malarkey 1552 (NK14 GGA) has been repainted at Bus & Coach World Blackburn into Journey Mark's - https://flickr.com/photos/62607125@N08/5...1625834270 - Photo by Chris Hinds.


https://flic.kr/p/2nvmw7x

1550 as well


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Ryland



464
10 Jul 2022, 9:05 am #3
Are they going to do redcar streetlites too
Ryland
10 Jul 2022, 9:05 am #3

Are they going to do redcar streetlites too

13 Jul 2022, 8:06 pm #4
(10 Jul 2022, 9:05 am)Ryland Are they going to do redcar streetlites too

Supposedly 1543 is at Redcar/Whitby to start the refurbs of there Streetlites
Stuartphin1639
13 Jul 2022, 8:06 pm #4

(10 Jul 2022, 9:05 am)Ryland Are they going to do redcar streetlites too

Supposedly 1543 is at Redcar/Whitby to start the refurbs of there Streetlites

Ryland



464
13 Jul 2022, 9:26 pm #5
(13 Jul 2022, 8:06 pm)Stuartphin1639 Supposedly 1543 is at Redcar/Whitby to start the refurbs of there Streetlites

Have any of them gone yet for refurb
Ryland
13 Jul 2022, 9:26 pm #5

(13 Jul 2022, 8:06 pm)Stuartphin1639 Supposedly 1543 is at Redcar/Whitby to start the refurbs of there Streetlites

Have any of them gone yet for refurb

29 Jul 2022, 5:25 pm #6
(13 Jul 2022, 9:26 pm)Ryland Have any of them gone yet for refurb
Don't think so, 1550,1552,1553,1554 are all done 1555 & 1556 are now up at Blackburn getting repainted.
busesofthenortheast
29 Jul 2022, 5:25 pm #6

(13 Jul 2022, 9:26 pm)Ryland Have any of them gone yet for refurb
Don't think so, 1550,1552,1553,1554 are all done 1555 & 1556 are now up at Blackburn getting repainted.

Ryland



464
31 Jul 2022, 8:10 am #7
Is it just external repaint or getting done internally too
Ryland
31 Jul 2022, 8:10 am #7

Is it just external repaint or getting done internally too

Kuyoyo



6,853
31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am #8
(31 Jul 2022, 8:10 am)Ryland Is it just external repaint or getting done internally too

External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information
Kuyoyo
31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am #8

(31 Jul 2022, 8:10 am)Ryland Is it just external repaint or getting done internally too

External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information

31 Jul 2022, 9:25 am #9
Quite a bit of inconsistency around what's being retrimmed and having 'red zones' implemented, especially across other areas' fleets too.

Ashington's E400s and Durham's Pulsars appear to have red zones but only have debranded headrests instead of full dark blue pleather.
omnicity4659
31 Jul 2022, 9:25 am #9

Quite a bit of inconsistency around what's being retrimmed and having 'red zones' implemented, especially across other areas' fleets too.

Ashington's E400s and Durham's Pulsars appear to have red zones but only have debranded headrests instead of full dark blue pleather.

Jimmi



10,969
31 Jul 2022, 9:50 am #10
(31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am)Kuyoyo External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information

(31 Jul 2022, 9:25 am)omnicity4659 Quite a bit of inconsistency around what's being retrimmed and having 'red zones' implemented, especially across other areas' fleets too.

Ashington's E400s and Durham's Pulsars appear to have red zones but only have debranded headrests instead of full dark blue pleather.

Think all refurbs minus the X93 B9TLs have got the red vinyl flooring at the front in the NE (Darlington's treated gas buses do).

My fears with removing the internal branding (if some of Belmont Sapphire fleet is anything to go by) we'll just end up with cove panels with residue or attempted removal of residue although most of these internal brandings should be removed as most are outdated due to discontinued brands or route details has been outdated for a while now following changes.
Jimmi
31 Jul 2022, 9:50 am #10

(31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am)Kuyoyo External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information

(31 Jul 2022, 9:25 am)omnicity4659 Quite a bit of inconsistency around what's being retrimmed and having 'red zones' implemented, especially across other areas' fleets too.

Ashington's E400s and Durham's Pulsars appear to have red zones but only have debranded headrests instead of full dark blue pleather.

Think all refurbs minus the X93 B9TLs have got the red vinyl flooring at the front in the NE (Darlington's treated gas buses do).

My fears with removing the internal branding (if some of Belmont Sapphire fleet is anything to go by) we'll just end up with cove panels with residue or attempted removal of residue although most of these internal brandings should be removed as most are outdated due to discontinued brands or route details has been outdated for a while now following changes.

31 Jul 2022, 4:02 pm #11
(31 Jul 2022, 9:50 am)Jimmi Think all refurbs minus the X93 B9TLs have got the red vinyl flooring at the front in the NE (Darlington's treated gas buses do).

My fears with removing the internal branding (if some of Belmont Sapphire fleet is anything to go by) we'll just end up with cove panels with residue or attempted removal of residue although most of these internal brandings should be removed as most are outdated due to discontinued brands or route details has been outdated for a while now following changes.

Ashington's Sapphires have had the internal branding removed. Residue isn't a problem if it's being done by those who are meant to be doing it.
omnicity4659
31 Jul 2022, 4:02 pm #11

(31 Jul 2022, 9:50 am)Jimmi Think all refurbs minus the X93 B9TLs have got the red vinyl flooring at the front in the NE (Darlington's treated gas buses do).

My fears with removing the internal branding (if some of Belmont Sapphire fleet is anything to go by) we'll just end up with cove panels with residue or attempted removal of residue although most of these internal brandings should be removed as most are outdated due to discontinued brands or route details has been outdated for a while now following changes.

Ashington's Sapphires have had the internal branding removed. Residue isn't a problem if it's being done by those who are meant to be doing it.

03 Aug 2022, 12:31 am #12
(31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am)Kuyoyo External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information
When the streetlites are done do you have any information about when the pulsars are gonna start going up for repaint.
busesofthenortheast
03 Aug 2022, 12:31 am #12

(31 Jul 2022, 8:35 am)Kuyoyo External repaint
Vinyl Floor around the entrance being replaced
The Streetlites are also receiving a full retrim to the same spec as 1410

Stockton's examples done so-far do however retain their 'Sapphire' internal coving information
When the streetlites are done do you have any information about when the pulsars are gonna start going up for repaint.

06 Aug 2022, 12:42 am #13
(03 Aug 2022, 12:31 am)busesofthenortheast When the streetlites are done do you have any information about when the pulsars are gonna start going up for repaint.

By all account I’m lead to believe that pulsars have started leaving the Darlington fleet to be repainted/refurbished with 1477 the first to go
Stuartphin1639
06 Aug 2022, 12:42 am #13

(03 Aug 2022, 12:31 am)busesofthenortheast When the streetlites are done do you have any information about when the pulsars are gonna start going up for repaint.

By all account I’m lead to believe that pulsars have started leaving the Darlington fleet to be repainted/refurbished with 1477 the first to go

9920up



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06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm #14
Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.
9920up
06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm #14

Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.

06 Aug 2022, 11:55 pm #15
(06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm)9920up Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.
I think 4801/03/05/08/09 are still in original
NewcastleOne
06 Aug 2022, 11:55 pm #15

(06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm)9920up Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.
I think 4801/03/05/08/09 are still in original

08 Aug 2022, 12:39 am #16
Is 7522 being repainted too? Just been off road for a while but it could be something else.
Arriva7446
08 Aug 2022, 12:39 am #16

Is 7522 being repainted too? Just been off road for a while but it could be something else.

RobinHood



638
08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am #17
(06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm)9920up Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.
Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.
RobinHood
08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am #17

(06 Aug 2022, 7:53 pm)9920up Odd if they are starting on the Darlington Pulsars. The MAN Ecos haven't been finished yet. At least 3 are still in original condition.
Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.

Malarkey



6,064
08 Aug 2022, 4:49 pm #18
(08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am)RobinHood Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.

A Stagecoach Sunderland driver I spoke to a few months back mentioned that Stagecoach were considering the same due to large costs to maintain these buses.
Malarkey
08 Aug 2022, 4:49 pm #18

(08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am)RobinHood Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.

A Stagecoach Sunderland driver I spoke to a few months back mentioned that Stagecoach were considering the same due to large costs to maintain these buses.

JoshP



284
10 Aug 2022, 10:12 am #19
(08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am)RobinHood Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.

If this were to happen one would assume Darlo's EcoCity's would head to Liverpool and in return Darlo would receive vehicles from Liverpool/North West?
JoshP
10 Aug 2022, 10:12 am #19

(08 Aug 2022, 6:40 am)RobinHood Rumor is that the Ecocitys are being considered to be withdrawn, as they are simply too expensive to maintain, ongoing. Reaching a point in their life cycle that some major components of the gas system need to be replaced (combustion, roof storage tank etc).

Presumably their expected costs are being considered against their book values, which explains why they have stopped their refurbishment work.

If this were to happen one would assume Darlo's EcoCity's would head to Liverpool and in return Darlo would receive vehicles from Liverpool/North West?

Storx



4,575
10 Aug 2022, 12:39 pm #20
(10 Aug 2022, 10:12 am)JoshP If this were to happen one would assume Darlo's EcoCity's would head to Liverpool and in return Darlo would receive vehicles from Liverpool/North West?

Can't comment on what's replacing them but I'd imagine they'll be withdrawn altogether. 

If they're not affordable to be redone here then they won't be affordable in Liverpool either. It probably doesn't help that the price of gas has absolutely sky rocketed in the past year or so because of the Ukraine war which will make them expensive to run.
Storx
10 Aug 2022, 12:39 pm #20

(10 Aug 2022, 10:12 am)JoshP If this were to happen one would assume Darlo's EcoCity's would head to Liverpool and in return Darlo would receive vehicles from Liverpool/North West?

Can't comment on what's replacing them but I'd imagine they'll be withdrawn altogether. 

If they're not affordable to be redone here then they won't be affordable in Liverpool either. It probably doesn't help that the price of gas has absolutely sky rocketed in the past year or so because of the Ukraine war which will make them expensive to run.

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