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Unber43



3,567
20 Oct 2023, 7:30 am #1
I didn't realise any SC Sunderland bus went into Park Lane, I thought they only came in when theyd been in an accident like someone broke a window or driver needed the toilet.

However there is a 16 board which pulls into Park lane once a day, anyone know why this is?
Unber43
20 Oct 2023, 7:30 am #1

I didn't realise any SC Sunderland bus went into Park Lane, I thought they only came in when theyd been in an accident like someone broke a window or driver needed the toilet.

However there is a 16 board which pulls into Park lane once a day, anyone know why this is?

Dan

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18,128
20 Oct 2023, 7:40 am #2
(20 Oct 2023, 7:30 am)Unber43 I didn't realise any SC Sunderland bus went into Park Lane, I thought they only came in when theyd been in an accident like someone broke a window or driver needed the toilet.

However there is a 16 board which pulls into Park lane once a day, anyone know why this is?


I’m not sure if there are still other services or if it’s just the 16 now (but there certainly used to be others), but they terminate at Park Lane on a night before continuing to the north Sunderland estates at around 23:00.

This is historical for Sunderland, and the tradition is believed to have had roots to the days of tram operation in Sunderland. Back then, there would be a line-up of trams in Fawcett Street waiting for the whistle to send some northwards towards Southwick, Fulwell and Seaburn and some southwards towards Villette Road, Grangetown, Durham Road or Kayll Road.

This continued into the 1970s when the point inspector in the Central Bus Station would blow their whistle spot on 11pm and every last bus would shut its doors and race to the outer estates and back to either Hylton Road or Fulwell depots and in later years the Wheatsheaf.

A photo back in 2014 of service 13:
https://flic.kr/p/o39R8e


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Dan
20 Oct 2023, 7:40 am #2

(20 Oct 2023, 7:30 am)Unber43 I didn't realise any SC Sunderland bus went into Park Lane, I thought they only came in when theyd been in an accident like someone broke a window or driver needed the toilet.

However there is a 16 board which pulls into Park lane once a day, anyone know why this is?


I’m not sure if there are still other services or if it’s just the 16 now (but there certainly used to be others), but they terminate at Park Lane on a night before continuing to the north Sunderland estates at around 23:00.

This is historical for Sunderland, and the tradition is believed to have had roots to the days of tram operation in Sunderland. Back then, there would be a line-up of trams in Fawcett Street waiting for the whistle to send some northwards towards Southwick, Fulwell and Seaburn and some southwards towards Villette Road, Grangetown, Durham Road or Kayll Road.

This continued into the 1970s when the point inspector in the Central Bus Station would blow their whistle spot on 11pm and every last bus would shut its doors and race to the outer estates and back to either Hylton Road or Fulwell depots and in later years the Wheatsheaf.

A photo back in 2014 of service 13:
https://flic.kr/p/o39R8e


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Unber43



3,567
20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am #3
The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?
Unber43
20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am #3

The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?

Rob44



1,518
20 Oct 2023, 8:22 am #4
(20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am)Unber43 The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?

Didn't the E service leave from the old bus station - there certainly did back in the 80s
Rob44
20 Oct 2023, 8:22 am #4

(20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am)Unber43 The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?

Didn't the E service leave from the old bus station - there certainly did back in the 80s

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997
20 Oct 2023, 8:42 am #5
X1 runs to and from Park Lane.
LVK 404L
20 Oct 2023, 8:42 am #5

X1 runs to and from Park Lane.

Unber43



3,567
20 Oct 2023, 8:50 am #6
(20 Oct 2023, 8:42 am)ifm001 X1 runs to and from Park Lane.
Only runs from park lane
Unber43
20 Oct 2023, 8:50 am #6

(20 Oct 2023, 8:42 am)ifm001 X1 runs to and from Park Lane.
Only runs from park lane

20 Oct 2023, 10:51 am #7
(20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am)Unber43 The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?

I think it was about May 2017. I only remember that as it's when I started working for GNE and it meant I had to walk to Fawcett Street to get my bus home, the E1, rather than getting it in Park Lane.
deanmachine
20 Oct 2023, 10:51 am #7

(20 Oct 2023, 7:46 am)Unber43 The E's used to go in all day when did that stop?

I think it was about May 2017. I only remember that as it's when I started working for GNE and it meant I had to walk to Fawcett Street to get my bus home, the E1, rather than getting it in Park Lane.

Acky81



902
20 Oct 2023, 1:44 pm #8
Pretty sure when the 4 and 13 changes happen
Next month the last 13 will do the same
Acky81
20 Oct 2023, 1:44 pm #8

Pretty sure when the 4 and 13 changes happen
Next month the last 13 will do the same

21 Oct 2023, 11:34 pm #9
13 always done it but once a week
ThomasBooth123
21 Oct 2023, 11:34 pm #9

13 always done it but once a week

V514DFT



2,261
24 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm #10
(20 Oct 2023, 10:51 am)deanmachine I think it was about May 2017. I only remember that as it's when I started working for GNE and it meant I had to walk to Fawcett Street to get my bus home, the E1, rather than getting it in Park Lane.

That'll be about right, i had to get a party costume for my sons 5th birthday party from Sunderland, and i'd  get off the Metro at Sunderland but get back on at Park Lane, and the E's were running into the Interchange back then, would of been end of March/ early April

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Tez
V514DFT
24 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm #10

(20 Oct 2023, 10:51 am)deanmachine I think it was about May 2017. I only remember that as it's when I started working for GNE and it meant I had to walk to Fawcett Street to get my bus home, the E1, rather than getting it in Park Lane.

That'll be about right, i had to get a party costume for my sons 5th birthday party from Sunderland, and i'd  get off the Metro at Sunderland but get back on at Park Lane, and the E's were running into the Interchange back then, would of been end of March/ early April


Kind Regards
Tez

Andreos1



14,251
24 Oct 2023, 7:48 pm #11
(24 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm)V514DFT That'll be about right, i had to get a party costume for my sons 5th birthday party from Sunderland, and i'd  get off the Metro at Sunderland but get back on at Park Lane, and the E's were running into the Interchange back then, would of been end of March/ early April

You can't just leave it at that. 

We need to know more about this party costume.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Oct 2023, 7:48 pm #11

(24 Oct 2023, 2:59 pm)V514DFT That'll be about right, i had to get a party costume for my sons 5th birthday party from Sunderland, and i'd  get off the Metro at Sunderland but get back on at Park Lane, and the E's were running into the Interchange back then, would of been end of March/ early April

You can't just leave it at that. 

We need to know more about this party costume.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

24 Oct 2023, 9:04 pm #12
Looking back at old timetables, it was the June 2027 changes when the Es were curtailed at Fawcett Street (4 June 2017)
stagecoachbusdepot
24 Oct 2023, 9:04 pm #12

Looking back at old timetables, it was the June 2027 changes when the Es were curtailed at Fawcett Street (4 June 2017)

25 Oct 2023, 10:02 am #13
June 2027? Did you use a time machine or something?

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wibblejunior
25 Oct 2023, 10:02 am #13

June 2027? Did you use a time machine or something?


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V514DFT



2,261
25 Oct 2023, 4:27 pm #14
(24 Oct 2023, 7:48 pm)Andreos1 You can't just leave it at that. 

We need to know more about this party costume.

Lol, it was a Thor party costume, my sons favourite character was Thor at the time

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
25 Oct 2023, 4:27 pm #14

(24 Oct 2023, 7:48 pm)Andreos1 You can't just leave it at that. 

We need to know more about this party costume.

Lol, it was a Thor party costume, my sons favourite character was Thor at the time


Kind Regards
Tez

28 Oct 2023, 6:43 pm #15
When Park Lane Interchange first opened in May 1999 pretty much every Stagecoach service stopped there on their southbound run, with northbound service stopping in Vine Place.

Does anyone know when they stopped serving the interchange?


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GrahamD83
28 Oct 2023, 6:43 pm #15

When Park Lane Interchange first opened in May 1999 pretty much every Stagecoach service stopped there on their southbound run, with northbound service stopping in Vine Place.

Does anyone know when they stopped serving the interchange?


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idiot



1,123
29 Oct 2023, 3:23 pm #16
Didn't want to pay nexus for every bus.
idiot
29 Oct 2023, 3:23 pm #16

Didn't want to pay nexus for every bus.

big mac



430
01 Nov 2023, 6:44 pm #17
(28 Oct 2023, 6:43 pm)GrahamD83 When Park Lane Interchange first opened in May 1999 pretty much every Stagecoach service stopped there on their southbound run, with northbound service stopping in Vine Place.

Does anyone know when they stopped serving the interchange?


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To avoid having to pay the fees to Nexus to use the station.  They do the same in Newcastle etc with most buses using Blackett Street etc instead of Eldon Square or the Haymarket.
big mac
01 Nov 2023, 6:44 pm #17

(28 Oct 2023, 6:43 pm)GrahamD83 When Park Lane Interchange first opened in May 1999 pretty much every Stagecoach service stopped there on their southbound run, with northbound service stopping in Vine Place.

Does anyone know when they stopped serving the interchange?


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To avoid having to pay the fees to Nexus to use the station.  They do the same in Newcastle etc with most buses using Blackett Street etc instead of Eldon Square or the Haymarket.

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997
01 Nov 2023, 6:47 pm #18
(01 Nov 2023, 6:44 pm)big mac To avoid having to pay the fees to Nexus to use the station.  They do the same in Newcastle etc with most buses using Blackett Street etc instead of Eldon Square or the Haymarket.

What i never understood about this at the time, and even now.  For years Stagecoach/Busways jad used the Central Bus Station in Sunderland which was either PTE/Nexus managed just the same, but rhey never pulled out of there.   Park Lane was purely on the wrong place and the fees was a 'reason' to pull out.
LVK 404L
01 Nov 2023, 6:47 pm #18

(01 Nov 2023, 6:44 pm)big mac To avoid having to pay the fees to Nexus to use the station.  They do the same in Newcastle etc with most buses using Blackett Street etc instead of Eldon Square or the Haymarket.

What i never understood about this at the time, and even now.  For years Stagecoach/Busways jad used the Central Bus Station in Sunderland which was either PTE/Nexus managed just the same, but rhey never pulled out of there.   Park Lane was purely on the wrong place and the fees was a 'reason' to pull out.

Unber43



3,567
01 Nov 2023, 7:20 pm #19
Anyone have the old timetables off 2021, tried to use Wayback Machine but it wont work as you need to search the service it doesnt give you a list
Unber43
01 Nov 2023, 7:20 pm #19

Anyone have the old timetables off 2021, tried to use Wayback Machine but it wont work as you need to search the service it doesnt give you a list

Storx



4,635
01 Nov 2023, 8:49 pm #20
(01 Nov 2023, 7:20 pm)Unber43 Anyone have the old timetables off 2021, tried to use Wayback Machine but it wont work as you need to search the service it doesnt give you a list

Nexus, usually works for timetables but it can be buggy (on wayback)
Storx
01 Nov 2023, 8:49 pm #20

(01 Nov 2023, 7:20 pm)Unber43 Anyone have the old timetables off 2021, tried to use Wayback Machine but it wont work as you need to search the service it doesnt give you a list

Nexus, usually works for timetables but it can be buggy (on wayback)

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