Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
(29 Nov 2020, 10:54 am)Storx Yeah agreed with GNE, there's absolute no logic to where things are either especially in Sunderland, the 2 and 39 being pretty much identical routes for most of it but two numbers with little history and they're miles apart for no reason. 35 and 55 between Sunderland and Houghton where the 55 comes from god knows as they're Sheriff Hill services. Then you have the odd numbers which make no sense being there, 6 to Stanley; 11 in N. Shields for example.
(29 Nov 2020, 10:54 am)Storx Yeah agreed with GNE, there's absolute no logic to where things are either especially in Sunderland, the 2 and 39 being pretty much identical routes for most of it but two numbers with little history and they're miles apart for no reason. 35 and 55 between Sunderland and Houghton where the 55 comes from god knows as they're Sheriff Hill services. Then you have the odd numbers which make no sense being there, 6 to Stanley; 11 in N. Shields for example.
(29 Nov 2020, 12:36 pm)Michael Remember how confusing the 35/35A/35B/35C were
(29 Nov 2020, 12:36 pm)Michael Remember how confusing the 35/35A/35B/35C were
I think the trouble with GNE numbering and routes is that they change frequently . Where as SNE is pretty static eg SNE Sunderland 23 has been the 23 for donkeys years. (before that 123). An example GNE would be Sunderland to Hartlepool. In recent years, it’s been x35>x5>55 (with variations X and A). Again, route planner on speed!
(29 Nov 2020, 10:42 am)BFK There used to be a service E3 which ran between South Shields and Sunderland via Westoe, Horsley Hill, Marsden, Whitburn, Seaburn and Roker. It was withdrawn about 18 years ago. The reason for E6 is because it ran in competition with Catch A Bus service 6. Both CAB 6 and E6 ran the exact same routes.I thought the E6 was just a renumber or the E3 cus i remember being able to get on the E6 from my brother and sisters when they lived in Marsden,must have been about 22/23 years ago,my mistake
(29 Nov 2020, 10:42 am)BFK There used to be a service E3 which ran between South Shields and Sunderland via Westoe, Horsley Hill, Marsden, Whitburn, Seaburn and Roker. It was withdrawn about 18 years ago. The reason for E6 is because it ran in competition with Catch A Bus service 6. Both CAB 6 and E6 ran the exact same routes.I thought the E6 was just a renumber or the E3 cus i remember being able to get on the E6 from my brother and sisters when they lived in Marsden,must have been about 22/23 years ago,my mistake
Yeah, E3 (Sland to SS) was defo put on by Busways to compete with TWOC X2 (Thorney Close to SS).
(29 Nov 2020, 4:55 pm)Economic505 Yeah, E3 (Sland to SS) was defo put on by Busways to compete with TWOC X2 (Thorney Close to SS).
(29 Nov 2020, 4:55 pm)Economic505 Yeah, E3 (Sland to SS) was defo put on by Busways to compete with TWOC X2 (Thorney Close to SS).
(29 Nov 2020, 4:15 pm)V514DFT I thought the E6 was just a renumber or the E3 cus i remember being able to get on the E6 from where my brother and sisters when they lived in Marsden,must have been about 22/23 years ago,my mistakeE6 was originally introduced as Marsden to Sunderland only and did not run into Shields at the very beginning. Not sure if was registered same time as Catch a Bus 6, as that was started back in Jnauary 1987 but ran Simonside to Sunderland and did not go into Shields until a year or so later. The E6 we have now if I remember correctly came about when the pointer darts 1749 to 1753 got repainted into Economic livery and was reinvented. I was working in Sunderland at that time so was between 1992 and 1995.
(29 Nov 2020, 4:15 pm)V514DFT I thought the E6 was just a renumber or the E3 cus i remember being able to get on the E6 from where my brother and sisters when they lived in Marsden,must have been about 22/23 years ago,my mistakeE6 was originally introduced as Marsden to Sunderland only and did not run into Shields at the very beginning. Not sure if was registered same time as Catch a Bus 6, as that was started back in Jnauary 1987 but ran Simonside to Sunderland and did not go into Shields until a year or so later. The E6 we have now if I remember correctly came about when the pointer darts 1749 to 1753 got repainted into Economic livery and was reinvented. I was working in Sunderland at that time so was between 1992 and 1995.
(29 Nov 2020, 8:26 pm)ifm001 E6 was originally introduced as Marsden to Sunderland only and did not run into Shields at the very beginning. Not sure if was registered same time as Catch a Bus 6, as that was started back in Jnauary 1987 but ran Simonside to Sunderland and did not go into Shields until a year or so later. The E6 we have now if I remember correctly came about when the pointer darts 1749 to 1753 got repainted into Economic livery and was reinvented. I was working in Sunderland at that time so was between 1992 and 1995.
(29 Nov 2020, 8:26 pm)ifm001 E6 was originally introduced as Marsden to Sunderland only and did not run into Shields at the very beginning. Not sure if was registered same time as Catch a Bus 6, as that was started back in Jnauary 1987 but ran Simonside to Sunderland and did not go into Shields until a year or so later. The E6 we have now if I remember correctly came about when the pointer darts 1749 to 1753 got repainted into Economic livery and was reinvented. I was working in Sunderland at that time so was between 1992 and 1995.
(29 Nov 2020, 12:26 pm)Storx Well maybe not the 3 but that wasn't really the point. Name them the 2B and 2C even, the variation is so little between them, the 39 is just a short 2 pretty much extended to Doxford Park.The 39 route number was a throwback to the old 139 route (and 140) which ran a similar way.
(29 Nov 2020, 12:26 pm)Storx Well maybe not the 3 but that wasn't really the point. Name them the 2B and 2C even, the variation is so little between them, the 39 is just a short 2 pretty much extended to Doxford Park.The 39 route number was a throwback to the old 139 route (and 140) which ran a similar way.
(03 Dec 2020, 1:15 pm)arriva16 The 39 route number was a throwback to the old 139 route (and 140) which ran a similar way.
(03 Dec 2020, 1:15 pm)arriva16 The 39 route number was a throwback to the old 139 route (and 140) which ran a similar way.
(03 Dec 2020, 5:04 pm)Storx Ah that makes sense, always wondered where the 39 came from. I admit I don't really know the Sunderland network too well but from an outsider it changes a lot, Stagecoach aswell.Same here,when other parts of the network are mentiones im like 'ehhhhh'
Sunderland 18 diverted to Hylton Retail Park - opens new Links from Pennywell/Grindon/Seaburn
New route -
Fawcett Street - Wheatsheaf - Seaburn - Southwick - Hylton Retail Park (same stop as the 35/35A) - Wessington Way - Northern Spire - Pallion - Pennywell - Grindon (In Grindon: Via Gleneagles road - Gartland Road - Pennywell Aldi - Greenwood Road - Gleneagles road - Thorney close - Gilley Law
Every hour - Monday to Saturday - Between 6:30am and 6:30pm
i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
(14 Jan 2021, 10:31 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Extension of the 72 would seem more likely for the latter, if anythingthe 72 is quite a distance away from the new housing estate, it heads to chapel house whereas the new estates are on the other side of the chapel park estate. they are still being constructed so i imagine a new route or route alterations are a few years away if anything is happening
(14 Jan 2021, 10:31 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Extension of the 72 would seem more likely for the latter, if anythingthe 72 is quite a distance away from the new housing estate, it heads to chapel house whereas the new estates are on the other side of the chapel park estate. they are still being constructed so i imagine a new route or route alterations are a few years away if anything is happening
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumour's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumour's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
Stagecoach then launched the 64/64A,think it was round about 1997/98,they were both scrapped im 2003, not sure about the 73,probably round about the same time,if these rumors are true then i would have the 64 terminate at Forest Hall like it used to and possibly a 64A that would follow the 64 and terminate at Glebe Road,then at th Great Lime Road junction,it would turn left,to serve West Moor and the Quorum then meet back up with the 64 at Four Lane Ends
(15 Jan 2021, 10:26 pm)N391OTY I seem to recall that many years ago (1970s ?) Newcastle Corporation had services 60-65 which all ventured along Shields Road, Chillingham Road and Benton Road before heading out of the city boundary towards various destinations including West Moor and Forest Hall. Four Lane Ends station didn't exist then, and Killingworth was nowhere near as extensive as it is now. I suspect that the service 64 may have operated between West Denton shops and West Moor but am happy to be corrected.61 from Four Lane then to Longbenton Estate
On the other side of the city, such exotic locations as Westerhope and Stamfordham Road were also served.
Wistfully stuck in the 70s !!
(15 Jan 2021, 10:26 pm)N391OTY I seem to recall that many years ago (1970s ?) Newcastle Corporation had services 60-65 which all ventured along Shields Road, Chillingham Road and Benton Road before heading out of the city boundary towards various destinations including West Moor and Forest Hall. Four Lane Ends station didn't exist then, and Killingworth was nowhere near as extensive as it is now. I suspect that the service 64 may have operated between West Denton shops and West Moor but am happy to be corrected.61 from Four Lane then to Longbenton Estate
On the other side of the city, such exotic locations as Westerhope and Stamfordham Road were also served.
Wistfully stuck in the 70s !!
(16 Jan 2021, 10:14 am)RMF1254 61 from Four Lane then to Longbenton Estate
62 from Four Lane Ends to West Moor then Killingworth West Bailey
63 from Four Lane Ends to West Moor then Killingworth East Bailey
64 from Four Lane Ends to Longbenton (Goathland Ave) and Forest Hall turning Circle
65 from Four Lane Ends to Whitley Road and Benton Station to Forest Hall turning circle.
At that time I think the 61/62/63 ran from Central Station and the 64/65 from from Stamfordham Road and West Denton.
(16 Jan 2021, 10:14 am)RMF1254 61 from Four Lane then to Longbenton Estate
62 from Four Lane Ends to West Moor then Killingworth West Bailey
63 from Four Lane Ends to West Moor then Killingworth East Bailey
64 from Four Lane Ends to Longbenton (Goathland Ave) and Forest Hall turning Circle
65 from Four Lane Ends to Whitley Road and Benton Station to Forest Hall turning circle.
At that time I think the 61/62/63 ran from Central Station and the 64/65 from from Stamfordham Road and West Denton.
