Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
#1
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Since we have all discussed GNE on here, can i make a suggestion for stagecoach Sunderland?

I would merge the 8 and 20 together to make it one full route... New 20 route.


Pennywell, Prestbury Road, City Centre, Fawcett Street - Royal Hospital - South Hylton

Not many people use the 8 (well when ive seen it its being empty or very few on) but it may get used more if new links are opened.
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#2
RE: Service Suggestions
(02 Mar 2013, 2:29 pm)Michael Wrote: Since we have all discussed GNE on here, can i make a suggestion for stagecoach Sunderland?

I would merge the 8 and 20 together to make it one full route... New 20 route.


Pennywell, Prestbury Road, City Centre, Fawcett Street - Royal Hospital - South Hylton

Not many people use the 8 (well when ive seen it its being empty or very few on) but it may get used more if new links are opened.

What happens with the 8 and 20 is that they both tend to run together. They often have about 2-3 minutes apart, but if the 8 is late for whatever reason, they'll run together.

I must disagree about the passenger numbers though. I sometimes choose the 8 over Chester Road services as it's six and two threes regarding the walk, and it can often get quite full - people often have to stand and pushchairs are left at stops. The one that departs Pennywell at approximately 09:30am on a morning is always full. Why? 90% of the passengers are over 60 and have a concessionary pass.

I wouldn't mind them merging providing that the new proposed 20 followed the ten minute frequency as it does now, and it followed the 8's route (via Hadleigh Road etc).

#3
RE: Service Suggestions
Glad amount of people use the 8, like ive said only seen it when empty or very few on.
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#4
RE: Service Suggestions
With a lot of the group coming from Sunderland, do any of you have suggestions for the cross-city routes that Stagecoach seem to favour?
I dont use the company, but curious to see how easy it was to change buses to get to a destination or are most options covered already?

#5
RE: Service Suggestions
I think there needs to be more cross city links to Seaburn. The E services only go as far south as Park Lane. Maybe bring back service 24?
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#6
RE: Service Suggestions
Suggestion for Stagecoach Sunderland...

Why don't stagecoach do a trail run for a service to Newcastle, Have E200 run it and have it hourly (for the trail run to see if its popular).

Route

Park lane - Southwick - Town End Farm - Gateshead - Newcastle


I know it nearly follows the new X36 service but i think it should run half a hour before the X36 as it could provide a half hourly service on part's of the route but passengers will have a choice.
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#7
RE: Service Suggestions
Well that would make more of a ghost town if another bus to newcastle hope this doesn't happen. Stagecoach could do with a totally new service refresh with some new routes

#8
RE: Service Suggestions
Today's weather has reminded me how much we need a proper coastal service. Unfortunately this will never happen, as the infrastructure along the A183 is crap. It would be an absolute nightmare to run a bus along there.

I was thinking something along the lines of Washington - Sunderland - South Shields. Starting at Concord, on to the Galleries, then running non-stop to Shiney Row roundabout, and straight on to the A183 from there on, all the way to South Shields. I'd probably run via Fawcett Street rather than the Interchange though!
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#9
RE: Service Suggestions
The problem with a proper coastal service is the existence of the Metro, especially in North/South Tyneside

#10
RE: Service Suggestions
Here are my service suggestions for stagecoach in Sunderland
3 faringdon -plains farm- Barnes park-royal hospital-city centre
4 Doxford park beckwith green- moorside-east Herrington-Barnes park-tunstall vale-askbrooke- city centre-southwick- downhill estate.
5 Doxford park-faringdon-lakeside village- thorney close-pallion- southwick- north Hylton road- Asda Boldon
6 Docks-city centre-Silksworth vicarage
7 south bents-seaburn-city centre-Hendon-grange town
8 south Hylton-pennywell-Hastings hill- broadway- royal hospital-city centre-Newcastle road- witherwack
9 Hylton castle- southwick-city centre-ryhope- tunstall village
10 Doxford park hall farm- farringdon-lakeside village- sainsburys-tunstall road-city centre- southwick-red house
11 town end farm-Castletown-a19-pennywell-grindon-Barnes park-grange town
12 city centre-royal hospital-penshaw-fatfield- Washington galleries
13 Doxford international-board inn- Barnes park-durham road- interchange
14 tunstall bank- hollycarrside-Asda- grange town- villette road- Mowbray park-city centre- roker-Morrisons
15 town end farm-downhill-red house-southwick- city centre- grangetown- ryhope village
16 Hastings hill-Somerset road-royal hospital-Hylton road- city centre- southwick-red house north- Hylton castle
X17 Sunderland seaburn South Shields
X18 Sunderland Gateshead Newcastle
X19 Sunderland-Hartlepool
X20 Sunderland - Metrocentre via galleries
21 seaburn- dene estate- city centre- thorney close- farringdon
22 open top bus seaburn- South Shields

#11
RE: Service Suggestions
(27 May 2013, 11:28 am)Acky81 Wrote: Here are my service suggestions for stagecoach in Sunderland
3 faringdon -plains farm- Barnes park-royal hospital-city centre
4 Doxford park beckwith green- moorside-east Herrington-Barnes park-tunstall vale-askbrooke- city centre-southwick- downhill estate.
5 Doxford park-faringdon-lakeside village- thorney close-pallion- southwick- north Hylton road- Asda Boldon
6 Docks-city centre-Silksworth vicarage
7 south bents-seaburn-city centre-Hendon-grange town
8 south Hylton-pennywell-Hastings hill- broadway- royal hospital-city centre-Newcastle road- witherwack
9 Hylton castle- southwick-city centre-ryhope- tunstall village
10 Doxford park hall farm- farringdon-lakeside village- sainsburys-tunstall road-city centre- southwick-red house
11 town end farm-Castletown-a19-pennywell-grindon-Barnes park-grange town
12 city centre-royal hospital-penshaw-fatfield- Washington galleries
13 Doxford international-board inn- Barnes park-durham road- interchange
14 tunstall bank- hollycarrside-Asda- grange town- villette road- Mowbray park-city centre- roker-Morrisons
15 town end farm-downhill-red house-southwick- city centre- grangetown- ryhope village
16 Hastings hill-Somerset road-royal hospital-Hylton road- city centre- southwick-red house north- Hylton castle
X17 Sunderland seaburn South Shields
X18 Sunderland Gateshead Newcastle
X19 Sunderland-Hartlepool
X20 Sunderland - Metrocentre via galleries
21 seaburn- dene estate- city centre- thorney close- farringdon
22 open top bus seaburn- South Shields

I like the idea for your 22. Similar to mine of starting at the Galleries, but running non-stop to Shiney Row roundabout, and effectively running the route of the A183 all the way to South Shields. I know the Metro runs in Sunderland and South Shields, but worth baring in mind that people have to go to Gateshead first (Pelaw) in order to come back on themselves to Shields.
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#12
RE: Service Suggestions
I like your service 8 idea but i would only extend the 16 from hastings hill to pennywell only replacing the 20 with a new service to replace the 20 in the south hylton area
or
maybe the current 8 could be replaced by the 20, it seems easier and could give the areas a 10 min service which is currently served by the 8

Sunderland buses hasnt had a major changes its being years and i agree, i would like to see some changes..
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#13
RE: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach routes need a facelift Michael

#14
RE: Service Suggestions
It does seem stagecoach currently like thier current routes, tbh some of the routes are working for them.

Sunderland could make changes to the 8,18,19 and 20
My ideas

8 replaced by the 20, new links and a better service

18/19 - these services could do with massive changes.. runs practicly empty from 11am till at least 3pm then from 4:30 till last service... dont know how stagecoach are still running these

My routes would be

18 - Grindon - Asda - Grangetown - City centre - Uni - Hostpial - Queen alexandrea bridge - Southwick - Seaburn - Half hourly


19 - Grindon - Bede - Hospital - Southwick - Wheatchef - Roker - Seaburn - Half hourly
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#15
RE: Service Suggestions
My Stagecoach in Sunderland Service Ideas

10
Washington Galleries - Waterview Park – Pennywell – Millfield – City Centre – Eye Infirmary – Grangetown
Every 15 Minutes
11
Washington Galleries - Waterview Park – Castletown – Sunderland Enterprise Park – Queen Alexandra Bridge – City Centre – Grangetown
Every 15 Minutes

20/21 – Biddick Woods – Shiney Row – Penshaw – Pennywell – Hospital – Millfield – City Centre
21 - Every 20 Minutes Biddick Woods – Pennywell
20 - Every 10 Minutes Pennywell – City Centre

X32 – Sunderland City Centre/Fawcett Street – Crowtree - Queen Alexandra Bridge – Waterview Park – Direct to the MetroCentre
Hourly Service – Saturday/Sunday Only

X33 – Sunderland City Centre/Fawcett Street – Crowtree – Queen Alexandra Bridge – Waterview Park – Peel Retail Park – Concord – Direct via Heworth Bypass (M1/X34) – Newcastle City Centre
Hourly Service – Monday – Sunday – Stops at Gateshead Interchange on the return journey to Sunderland

#16
RE: Service Suggestions
Too many from Washington I think. Washington is served by go north east

#17
RE: Service Suggestions
(28 May 2013, 12:58 am)Acky81 Wrote: Too many from Washington I think. Washington is served by go north east

I know but it would provide some competition in that area and would also provide new/old links between some areas of Washington and Sunderland.

I'll come up with some other ideas later.

#18
RE: Service Suggestions
(28 May 2013, 12:58 am)Acky81 Wrote: Too many from Washington I think. Washington is served by go north east

There's nothing wrong with a bit of competition Smile
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#19
RE: Service Suggestions
Not at all, it's the only area that doesn't have 2 or more major operators, operating services to the same area.

GNE operate the 2A/2C through penshaw into Sunderland, then Stagecoach operate the opposite side going via Waterview Park and Sunderland Enterprise Park into Sunderland.

#20
RE: Service Suggestions
A cynic would suggest Stagecoach and Go Ahead are more than happy with that arrangement