Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.I would totally agree with having the 64 do that journey however my only issue would be that the Blackett street stop would be EVEN MORE congested than it normally is at peak times with 4 services stopping there, one of them terminating (X63). I think that would be a problem as the 62/63 already sometimes have to drop their passengers off behind the 39/40 stop, and if that one has got 2 buses then they have to wait. Other then that should definitely help with congestion especially for school kids.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.I would totally agree with having the 64 do that journey however my only issue would be that the Blackett street stop would be EVEN MORE congested than it normally is at peak times with 4 services stopping there, one of them terminating (X63). I think that would be a problem as the 62/63 already sometimes have to drop their passengers off behind the 39/40 stop, and if that one has got 2 buses then they have to wait. Other then that should definitely help with congestion especially for school kids.
another one is the 73 service which would run from Grainger street following the route of the 71 through to westerhope. instead of turning left from stamfordham road onto Rogerson terrace like the 71 it would continue down past the westerhope golf club to service the new housing developments built around the callerton village. has anyone else heard anything similar?
Surely if there was this new 64 then it would just run every 20 minutes with the 62/63 staying every 20 minutes instead of 15. There won't be much difference in PVR, if anything a decrease compared to pre-covid, and it just shifts the buses being in the core section rather than around Killingworth and Chapel House running empty. It's only one extra bus in the core and -1 in the outer areas (-2 Killingworth, but they have the X63).
You could even run it via the 36 bus route and bin that off in the process.
(19 Jan 2021, 9:55 am)Storx Surely if there was this new 64 then it would just run every 20 minutes with the 62/63 staying every 20 minutes instead of 15. There won't be much difference in PVR, if anything a decrease compared to pre-covid, and it just shifts the buses being in the core section rather than around Killingworth and Chapel House running empty. It's only one extra bus in the core and -1 in the outer areas (-2 Killingworth, but they have the X63).
You could even run it via the 36 bus route and bin that off in the process.
(19 Jan 2021, 9:55 am)Storx Surely if there was this new 64 then it would just run every 20 minutes with the 62/63 staying every 20 minutes instead of 15. There won't be much difference in PVR, if anything a decrease compared to pre-covid, and it just shifts the buses being in the core section rather than around Killingworth and Chapel House running empty. It's only one extra bus in the core and -1 in the outer areas (-2 Killingworth, but they have the X63).
You could even run it via the 36 bus route and bin that off in the process.
(19 Jan 2021, 12:08 pm)logidoodah I agree they should just make it every 20 mins.
The only problem with the 36 being binned is that the 30 changes into it, so where would they terminate the 30? and going past the bbc centre, then spital tongues , then RVI is quite a different route to the 62/63 to town.
(19 Jan 2021, 12:08 pm)logidoodah I agree they should just make it every 20 mins.
The only problem with the 36 being binned is that the 30 changes into it, so where would they terminate the 30? and going past the bbc centre, then spital tongues , then RVI is quite a different route to the 62/63 to town.
(19 Jan 2021, 3:08 pm)Storx I'm not sure if they could get around but couldn't they just go to the next roundabout and do a u turn there and start at where the 30 ends anyway?
I know it's slightly different for the 64 but I could imagine it being quite a popular move giving parts of the West End and then Byker and Heaton a direct bus to the RVI without the walk from Blackett Street. There's already like 15 buses past St James towards to BBC sure the diversion of 3 buses an hour won't make too much a difference you'd still have the 62/63 anyway and it should only take an extra few minutes.
(19 Jan 2021, 3:08 pm)Storx I'm not sure if they could get around but couldn't they just go to the next roundabout and do a u turn there and start at where the 30 ends anyway?
I know it's slightly different for the 64 but I could imagine it being quite a popular move giving parts of the West End and then Byker and Heaton a direct bus to the RVI without the walk from Blackett Street. There's already like 15 buses past St James towards to BBC sure the diversion of 3 buses an hour won't make too much a difference you'd still have the 62/63 anyway and it should only take an extra few minutes.
(19 Jan 2021, 4:25 pm)logidoodah Yeah, i get you however I was thinking about if it does do a u turn non of the bus stops near are particularly suitable to wait for 10 mins or so. In my opinion.
And actually that could and would probably work, I didn't think of it like that.
(19 Jan 2021, 4:25 pm)logidoodah Yeah, i get you however I was thinking about if it does do a u turn non of the bus stops near are particularly suitable to wait for 10 mins or so. In my opinion.
And actually that could and would probably work, I didn't think of it like that.
(19 Jan 2021, 5:09 pm)Storx Yeah that's a fair point, unless it turns left and waits in Slatyford Lane bus stop? Certainly looks big enough but I'm not sure how many buses stop there, could be popular with people from Elswick etc having a bus to B&M, Lidl and Iceland aswell.
(19 Jan 2021, 5:09 pm)Storx Yeah that's a fair point, unless it turns left and waits in Slatyford Lane bus stop? Certainly looks big enough but I'm not sure how many buses stop there, could be popular with people from Elswick etc having a bus to B&M, Lidl and Iceland aswell.
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
(19 Jan 2021, 6:08 pm)logidoodah Yes that could work,
If it turns left to Slatyford lane (should be big enough to wait there), then it could turn right down Ullswater way, then Pooley rd, then Stamfordham rd (and wait there opposite the depot if Slatyford ln not suitable), as those bus tops are massive.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Silver...855202!3e0
Another way could be through the bottom of Blakelaw as no buses serve here and you have to walk up to Ponteland rd or down to Stamfordham rd which this would solve that problem. As well as give Half of Springfield rd an actual bus route.
Turn left after the Balloon, and continue past B&M etc.. then turn left up Binswood ave, turn right down Sunnyway, then back down Springfield rd to aline with Silver Lonnen.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Silver...855202!3e0
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
(19 Jan 2021, 6:08 pm)logidoodah Yes that could work,
If it turns left to Slatyford lane (should be big enough to wait there), then it could turn right down Ullswater way, then Pooley rd, then Stamfordham rd (and wait there opposite the depot if Slatyford ln not suitable), as those bus tops are massive.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Silver...855202!3e0
Another way could be through the bottom of Blakelaw as no buses serve here and you have to walk up to Ponteland rd or down to Stamfordham rd which this would solve that problem. As well as give Half of Springfield rd an actual bus route.
Turn left after the Balloon, and continue past B&M etc.. then turn left up Binswood ave, turn right down Sunnyway, then back down Springfield rd to aline with Silver Lonnen.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Silver...855202!3e0
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
(19 Jan 2021, 7:05 pm)Storx Both not a bad shout tbh. I've never used the 30/31 and don't really know the numbers around there but maybe another option could be to terminate them all at Whickham View and direct either the 1 or 11 along Silver Lonnen instead of through Slatyford. It's literally just the street across for most people and they both run to the same place pretty much. Otherwise they could do a loop with the going it's current route then instead of turning around comes back down through Silver Lonnen.
Be quite difficult for the 12, it uses deckers whereas the 30/31 are singles so you'd have to upgrade or downgrade one of them.
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
(19 Jan 2021, 7:05 pm)Storx Both not a bad shout tbh. I've never used the 30/31 and don't really know the numbers around there but maybe another option could be to terminate them all at Whickham View and direct either the 1 or 11 along Silver Lonnen instead of through Slatyford. It's literally just the street across for most people and they both run to the same place pretty much. Otherwise they could do a loop with the going it's current route then instead of turning around comes back down through Silver Lonnen.
Be quite difficult for the 12, it uses deckers whereas the 30/31 are singles so you'd have to upgrade or downgrade one of them.
(19 Jan 2021, 6:13 pm)V514DFT Could the 12 not be extended or re-routed to meet up with the 30?
Realistically i dont think you could do away with the 36 then, do the 30/31/36 still form the loop?,cus if it does it would either have to stay,or be replaced with something else, also the DD/SD issue with the 12, i'd imagine a few services being ugraded in the coming years,the 12 being one of them, as the 58 Reg E400's are now at a similar,if not the same age as what the 57 Reg E400's were when they were moved elsewhere, and wasnt the 12 operated by single deckers once upon a time?, if this were an option all the 12 would have to do is turn right at the Blackett Street junction then pick up the current 36 from there,then from Wingrove Road its current route,then from the Roundabout by the Co-Op it turns right to head for Netherby Drive, the 36 is pretty much covered by the 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive, so if thats true i'd revert the 63 back to its old route where it rejoins the 62 at Cowgate Morrisons, and have this proposed 64 do the current 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive
(20 Jan 2021, 5:52 pm)V514DFT Realistically i dont think you could do away with the 36 then, do the 30/31/36 still form the loop?,cus if it does it would either have to stay,or be replaced with something else, also the DD/SD issue with the 12, i'd imagine a few services being ugraded in the coming years,the 12 being one of them, as the 58 Reg E400's are now at a similar,if not the same age as what the 57 Reg E400's were when they were moved elsewhere, and wasnt the 12 operated by single deckers once upon a time?, if this were an option all the 12 would have to do is turn right at the Blackett Street junction then pick up the current 36 from there,then from Wingrove Road its current route,then from the Roundabout by the Co-Op it turns right to head for Netherby Drive, the 36 is pretty much covered by the 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive, so if thats true i'd revert the 63 back to its old route where it rejoins the 62 at Cowgate Morrisons, and have this proposed 64 do the current 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive
(20 Jan 2021, 5:52 pm)V514DFT Realistically i dont think you could do away with the 36 then, do the 30/31/36 still form the loop?,cus if it does it would either have to stay,or be replaced with something else, also the DD/SD issue with the 12, i'd imagine a few services being ugraded in the coming years,the 12 being one of them, as the 58 Reg E400's are now at a similar,if not the same age as what the 57 Reg E400's were when they were moved elsewhere, and wasnt the 12 operated by single deckers once upon a time?, if this were an option all the 12 would have to do is turn right at the Blackett Street junction then pick up the current 36 from there,then from Wingrove Road its current route,then from the Roundabout by the Co-Op it turns right to head for Netherby Drive, the 36 is pretty much covered by the 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive, so if thats true i'd revert the 63 back to its old route where it rejoins the 62 at Cowgate Morrisons, and have this proposed 64 do the current 63 along Fenham Hall Drive/Netherby Drive
(20 Jan 2021, 8:38 pm)V514DFT The 12 would stay as is to Blackett Street,it would only miss out St James and Walter Terrace,unless from the BBC it doubled on itself to run up Walter Terrace
(20 Jan 2021, 8:38 pm)V514DFT The 12 would stay as is to Blackett Street,it would only miss out St James and Walter Terrace,unless from the BBC it doubled on itself to run up Walter Terrace
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
(14 Jan 2021, 8:45 pm)toward6931 i have heard rumor's of possibly 2 new routes in the stagecoach Newcastle area. the first is a 64 route which would run from west Denton shops to four lane ends which from the sound of it would run ten minutes ahead of current 62/63 services relieving the pressure from those routes especially during peak times.
(21 Jan 2021, 12:37 am)V514DFT They should never have binned the original 64,if it were to go ahead would it be a stand alone service
(21 Jan 2021, 12:37 am)V514DFT They should never have binned the original 64,if it were to go ahead would it be a stand alone service
An option would be for the No1 to continue all the way along Silver Lonnen, then left at Stamfordham Road or via Slatyford Lane to its normal route. You could maybe have a loop. 1 going clockwise and 1A going anti clockwise. 30/31 would terminate at Whickham View. Even without the 64 you wouldn’t need 36 then. You could just operate 62/63 via Spital Tongues.