Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
(21 Jan 2014, 2:18 pm)cbma06 Thanks for scanning the map AdamY
Ive found the faretable for the 31/32 and scanned it, but somehow I cant put it on the site from my laptop as it asks for a URL link.
(21 Jan 2014, 2:22 pm)AdamY Use the 'Add Attachment' option when posting. It's displayed underneath.
I'm glad to see the Monkwearmyuth - Wembley service suggestion appearing in the Stagecoach thread where, if adopted, it would retain some sense of stability. If GNE were to run the service, it would probably change two or three times between now and cup final. (Boom Boom)
(24 Jan 2014, 12:10 pm)AdamY I'm glad to see the Monkwearmyuth - Wembley service suggestion appearing in the Stagecoach thread where, if adopted, it would retain some sense of stability. If GNE were to run the service, it would probably change two or three times between now and cup final. (Boom Boom)
(24 Jan 2014, 12:10 pm)AdamY I'm glad to see the Monkwearmyuth - Wembley service suggestion appearing in the Stagecoach thread where, if adopted, it would retain some sense of stability. If GNE were to run the service, it would probably change two or three times between now and cup final. (Boom Boom)
I often wonder is stagecoach would operate any stagecoach gold services in the North East, when you see the growth of sapphire services by ARRIVA, (and the ''gold'' services by GNE) its a little disappointing to see alx300's on busy services across the region. Not only that, but only Newcastle and Sunderland are the only places with different looking buses (Newcastle with 100's and hybrids, Sunderland with gas buses). Thats why the gold service would make some sense, definatley in Newcastle on services like the 1 or even an upgrade to the X47 or 100. Either way, Stagecoach for me fall to the bottom in the top 3 of bus quality - just my thought.
Well, I can't shout for Sunderland but I can for Teesside, their can be times that you can wait up to 20 minutes for a every 10/12 minute bus, and i've even seen 2 or 3 buses come at once (even 4 in a bizarre moment). This doesn't show a gold service.
I also think that branding shows care towards any customer. Whether it be tourist or local, take the crusader - it hasn't had top notch buses on it but yet it still carries a branding that shows locality and background knowledge of the area they service.
Changes to the 18/19 in Sunderland
Extending it from Seaburn to South Shields
18 - Grindon - Bede - Pallion - Southwick - Seaburn - Marsden Inn - South Shields - Westoe - Cleadon - Seaburn - City Centre - Grangetown - Grindon - Every 30 mins
19 - Grindon - Grangetown - City Centre - Seaburn - Cleadon - Westoe - South Shields - Marsden Inn - Seaburn - Southwick - Pallion - Bede College -Grindon - Every 30 mins
As an outsider looking in - keep the North side of the the river as it is, but adapt it between the hospital and Springwell.
So rather than serve Ormond Street, Durham Road and Prospect, it goes via Chester Road, Holborn Road, Hylton Road, Portsmouth/Pennywell Road, Chester Road, Somerset Road - current route through Thorney Close on a circular to Premier Road.
(16 Apr 2014, 12:03 pm)Andreos Constantopolous As an outsider looking in - keep the North side of the the river as it is, but adapt it between the hospital and Springwell.
So rather than serve Ormond Street, Durham Road and Prospect, it goes via Chester Road, Holborn Road, Hylton Road, Portsmouth/Pennywell Road, Chester Road, Somerset Road - current route through Thorney Close on a circular to Premier Road.
(16 Apr 2014, 12:03 pm)Andreos Constantopolous As an outsider looking in - keep the North side of the the river as it is, but adapt it between the hospital and Springwell.
So rather than serve Ormond Street, Durham Road and Prospect, it goes via Chester Road, Holborn Road, Hylton Road, Portsmouth/Pennywell Road, Chester Road, Somerset Road - current route through Thorney Close on a circular to Premier Road.
But how would that affect the E1/2/6 if the 18/19 were extended from Seaburn to Shields via The Coast?
The Cleadon/Harton route to Shields provides competition for the 35(A/B/C) and doesn't overlap with existing Stagecoach services with exception of the 30 between Cleadon and Shields. However, the 30 could be re-timed and coordinated with your suggestion to extend the 18/19 to Shields and provide an increased frequency (every 10 mins) between Cleadon and Shields.
Taking into account Andreos' suggestion, the route might look something like this:
18: South Shields - Harton - Cleadon - Fulwell - Seaburn - Roker - City Centre - Grangetown - Thornley Close - Grindon - Pallion - Southwick - Cleadon - Harton - South Shields
19: Reverse route of 18.
I'd probably withdraw the service from South Bends Estate and divert one of E's (another alternative would be to extend the 23 from Dene Estate) to replace any lost links there. The service would also probably need renumbering to prevent confusion with the South Shields 18 - I'd probably go with the 28/29.
(16 Apr 2014, 1:11 pm)AdamY But how would that affect the E1/2/6 if the 18/19 were extended from Seaburn to Shields via The Coast?
The Cleadon/Harton route to Shields provides competition for the 35(A/B/C) and doesn't overlap with existing Stagecoach services with exception of the 30 between Cleadon and Shields. However, the 30 could be re-timed and coordinated with your suggestion to extend the 18/19 to Shields and provide an increased frequency (every 10 mins) between Cleadon and Shields.
Taking into account Andreos' suggestion, the route might look something like this:
18: South Shields - Harton - Cleadon - Fulwell - Seaburn - Roker - City Centre - Grangetown - Thornley Close - Grindon - Pallion - Southwick - Cleadon - Harton - South Shields
19: Reverse route of 18.
I'd probably withdraw the service from South Bends Estate and divert one of E's (another alternative would be to extend the 23 from Dene Estate) to replace any lost links there. The service would also probably need renumbering to prevent confusion with the South Shields 18 - I'd probably go with the 28/29.
(16 Apr 2014, 1:11 pm)AdamY But how would that affect the E1/2/6 if the 18/19 were extended from Seaburn to Shields via The Coast?
The Cleadon/Harton route to Shields provides competition for the 35(A/B/C) and doesn't overlap with existing Stagecoach services with exception of the 30 between Cleadon and Shields. However, the 30 could be re-timed and coordinated with your suggestion to extend the 18/19 to Shields and provide an increased frequency (every 10 mins) between Cleadon and Shields.
Taking into account Andreos' suggestion, the route might look something like this:
18: South Shields - Harton - Cleadon - Fulwell - Seaburn - Roker - City Centre - Grangetown - Thornley Close - Grindon - Pallion - Southwick - Cleadon - Harton - South Shields
19: Reverse route of 18.
I'd probably withdraw the service from South Bends Estate and divert one of E's (another alternative would be to extend the 23 from Dene Estate) to replace any lost links there. The service would also probably need renumbering to prevent confusion with the South Shields 18 - I'd probably go with the 28/29.
(16 Apr 2014, 1:18 pm)Michael I like your idea Adam, its better than mine.
(16 Apr 2014, 1:18 pm)Michael I like your idea Adam, its better than mine.
(16 Apr 2014, 5:03 pm)AIG20 My suggestion would be creating a new Economic route that will serve the "Lawe Top" - next to the Roman Fort, the Coast Road, the whole of Lizard Lane, the South Bents Estate, Roker Park Road, Park Parade, Roker Avenue and the City Centre.
This will allow the E1 to serve the east side of Church Street North and Dame Dorothy Street, and the E6 to serve Mill Lane. This is because Roker Avenue and Lizard Lane (in Whitburn) is becoming too narrow for "full sized" single decker's.
This will replace services 18 and 19 between Seaburn and the City Centre.
(16 Apr 2014, 5:03 pm)AIG20 My suggestion would be creating a new Economic route that will serve the "Lawe Top" - next to the Roman Fort, the Coast Road, the whole of Lizard Lane, the South Bents Estate, Roker Park Road, Park Parade, Roker Avenue and the City Centre.
This will allow the E1 to serve the east side of Church Street North and Dame Dorothy Street, and the E6 to serve Mill Lane. This is because Roker Avenue and Lizard Lane (in Whitburn) is becoming too narrow for "full sized" single decker's.
This will replace services 18 and 19 between Seaburn and the City Centre.
