Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400
Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400
Wow! I hadn't expected that.
Looks like a cross between an E400, a Gemini and a Levante to me. Very stylish and very modern.
They look like completely different buses and it doesn't have an "Enviro" feel to me at all. So I've gone for the 'No Preference' option in the poll.
(01 May 2014, 8:59 pm)AIG20 That looks absolutely fantastic!
I wonder whether the new air-conditioning systems will help prevent the vehicle from badly steaming up and becoming humid when it is raining outside, as that would be a huge benefit for passengers who suffer from asthma and other breathing difficulties.
The only down-side is that it will probably be very expensive when it starts getting produced.
(01 May 2014, 8:59 pm)AIG20 That looks absolutely fantastic!
I wonder whether the new air-conditioning systems will help prevent the vehicle from badly steaming up and becoming humid when it is raining outside, as that would be a huge benefit for passengers who suffer from asthma and other breathing difficulties.
The only down-side is that it will probably be very expensive when it starts getting produced.
(01 May 2014, 9:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey According this Article there is already 400 Orders in the Pipeline from Go-Ahead, Stagecoach, Reading Transport and other UK operators, which would indicate it is reasonably priced.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/80m...port-wins/
(01 May 2014, 9:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey According this Article there is already 400 Orders in the Pipeline from Go-Ahead, Stagecoach, Reading Transport and other UK operators, which would indicate it is reasonably priced.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/80m...port-wins/
(01 May 2014, 9:20 pm)aureolin Really smart looking bus, although I'm dying to hear what Davey Bowyer thinks of the 6.7l engine :p
(10 May 2014, 2:46 pm)AIG20 I guess Walkergate and Slatyford Depot might get some new buses in next years order, which may include these new model E400s to convert another service to double deck, or to displace many of the oldest (2007 batch) E400s elsewhere in the fleet - such as Stockton if they cannot find any other DDA required buses in time of the deadline.
(10 May 2014, 2:46 pm)AIG20 I guess Walkergate and Slatyford Depot might get some new buses in next years order, which may include these new model E400s to convert another service to double deck, or to displace many of the oldest (2007 batch) E400s elsewhere in the fleet - such as Stockton if they cannot find any other DDA required buses in time of the deadline.
I must say that I'm rather impressed with the new E400. Alot of thought and R&D has gone into it. ADL have made many improvements to the previous version. Despite me being sceptical about the Cummins 6.7, the weight reduction will aid the reliability of the engine and the fact that ADL have put alot more thought into the E400 in terms of reliability will improve the reliability too. The 6.7 in the VDL DB300's is actually alright due to the build and bodyweight. I would put it on par with the Volvo D9B with the weight reduction and better build / reliability in mind. It would be tempermental on a constant foot to the floor route like the TTX but on routes like the X18 and X93 with a mixture of driving conditions, the chassis, body and engine is a perfect combination.
I think that with the order announced by Go Ahead, we should start seeing them up here soon either on the 27 or with them on the X1 and the 27 getting the 14 B9TL's of the X1.
(10 May 2014, 7:05 pm)DaveyBowyer I must say that I'm rather impressed with the new E400. Alot of thought and R&D has gone into it. ADL have made many improvements to the previous version. Despite me being sceptical about the Cummins 6.7, the weight reduction will aid the reliability of the engine and the fact that ADL have put alot more thought into the E400 in terms of reliability will improve the reliability too. The 6.7 in the VDL DB300's is actually alright due to the build and bodyweight. I would put it on par with the Volvo D9B with the weight reduction and better build / reliability in mind. It would be tempermental on a constant foot to the floor route like the TTX but on routes like the X18 and X93 with a mixture of driving conditions, the chassis, body and engine is a perfect combination.
I think that with the order announced by Go Ahead, we should start seeing them up here soon either on the 27 or with them on the X1 and the 27 getting the 14 B9TL's of the X1.
(10 May 2014, 7:05 pm)DaveyBowyer I must say that I'm rather impressed with the new E400. Alot of thought and R&D has gone into it. ADL have made many improvements to the previous version. Despite me being sceptical about the Cummins 6.7, the weight reduction will aid the reliability of the engine and the fact that ADL have put alot more thought into the E400 in terms of reliability will improve the reliability too. The 6.7 in the VDL DB300's is actually alright due to the build and bodyweight. I would put it on par with the Volvo D9B with the weight reduction and better build / reliability in mind. It would be tempermental on a constant foot to the floor route like the TTX but on routes like the X18 and X93 with a mixture of driving conditions, the chassis, body and engine is a perfect combination.
I think that with the order announced by Go Ahead, we should start seeing them up here soon either on the 27 or with them on the X1 and the 27 getting the 14 B9TL's of the X1.
(10 May 2014, 7:17 pm)Dan Despite the chances of GNE ordering ADL products being rather slim, service X1 is more demanding than service 27... Would keep the Volvo B9TLs on there for that reason alone.
(10 May 2014, 7:17 pm)Dan Despite the chances of GNE ordering ADL products being rather slim, service X1 is more demanding than service 27... Would keep the Volvo B9TLs on there for that reason alone.
Apologies for this being slightly off topic, but I recently read that ADL will be launching a redesign of the E200 in October of this year.
See highlighted section on 2nd page of attached PDF
(11 May 2014, 7:48 am)Richard Smiles Apologies for this being slightly off topic, but I recently read that ADL will be launching a redesign of the E200 in October of this year.
See highlighted section on 2nd page of attached PDF
(10 May 2014, 10:49 pm)Robert I had seen this last week and I have to say, enviro have gone and ruined it. However, I am not a person that judges a bus by its looks alone but i am going to predict that the new E400 will not be as reliable as its predecessor.
(10 May 2014, 10:49 pm)Robert I had seen this last week and I have to say, enviro have gone and ruined it. However, I am not a person that judges a bus by its looks alone but i am going to predict that the new E400 will not be as reliable as its predecessor.
To me, the front looks almost like the bus version of a Caetano Levante coach, and the way the body is styled at the top front reminds me of an Enviro400.