Blyth & Tyne Line
Blyth & Tyne Line
As for Bedlington Station......if Arriva re-routed the X21 back via Hartford Road (40 mins instead of 45 via Nedderton), would only be 8 minutes slower than the train.
Also, could there be scope for the X9 route to do the X10 route between Shankhouse & Newcastle? Again, could make it competitive from Bebside.
Only issue with both of the above is which secondary services could pick up the slack
(23 Feb 2024, 2:49 pm)L469 YVK Also, could there be scope for the X9 route to do the X10 route between Shankhouse & Newcastle? Again, could make it competitive from Bebside.
(23 Feb 2024, 2:49 pm)L469 YVK Also, could there be scope for the X9 route to do the X10 route between Shankhouse & Newcastle? Again, could make it competitive from Bebside.
(23 Feb 2024, 2:49 pm)L469 YVK As for Bedlington Station......if Arriva re-routed the X21 back via Hartford Road (40 mins instead of 45 via Nedderton), would only be 8 minutes slower than the train.
Also, could there be scope for the X9 route to do the X10 route between Shankhouse & Newcastle? Again, could make it competitive from Bebside.
Only issue with both of the above is which secondary services could pick up the slack
(23 Feb 2024, 2:49 pm)L469 YVK As for Bedlington Station......if Arriva re-routed the X21 back via Hartford Road (40 mins instead of 45 via Nedderton), would only be 8 minutes slower than the train.
Also, could there be scope for the X9 route to do the X10 route between Shankhouse & Newcastle? Again, could make it competitive from Bebside.
Only issue with both of the above is which secondary services could pick up the slack
(23 Feb 2024, 6:42 pm)Storx God help me for mentioning this corridor, you could even make the case for the fast Blyth to Newcastle bus to go via Whitley Bay instead, it's only actually a mile longer and the A193 comes in the direction furthest away from both train stations, Blyth to Cramlington is overbussed imo and if you lose a chunk of the Newcastle traffic there's a debate it's all needed.I think looking at the forthcoming timetables on Traveline, it might become a reality soon as I don't think more time can be added to the 308 & 309 without further increasing PVR. But that's another debate.
(23 Feb 2024, 6:42 pm)Storx God help me for mentioning this corridor, you could even make the case for the fast Blyth to Newcastle bus to go via Whitley Bay instead, it's only actually a mile longer and the A193 comes in the direction furthest away from both train stations, Blyth to Cramlington is overbussed imo and if you lose a chunk of the Newcastle traffic there's a debate it's all needed.I think looking at the forthcoming timetables on Traveline, it might become a reality soon as I don't think more time can be added to the 308 & 309 without further increasing PVR. But that's another debate.
(24 Feb 2024, 10:13 am)L469 YVK I think looking at the forthcoming timetables on Traveline, it might become a reality soon as I don't think more time can be added to the 308 & 309 without further increasing PVR. But that's another debate.
(24 Feb 2024, 10:13 am)L469 YVK I think looking at the forthcoming timetables on Traveline, it might become a reality soon as I don't think more time can be added to the 308 & 309 without further increasing PVR. But that's another debate.
(23 Feb 2024, 6:42 pm)Storx Personally I'd be looking at getting arid of the X9 or X10 completely between Blyth and Cramlington, if things really did go Pete Tong.
(23 Feb 2024, 6:42 pm)Storx Personally I'd be looking at getting arid of the X9 or X10 completely between Blyth and Cramlington, if things really did go Pete Tong.
(24 Feb 2024, 11:56 am)mb134 I'm struggling to see how a train that doesn't link Blyth with Cramlington would impact travel between the two largest towns in Northumberland?
(24 Feb 2024, 11:56 am)mb134 I'm struggling to see how a train that doesn't link Blyth with Cramlington would impact travel between the two largest towns in Northumberland?
(24 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm)Storx I'd personally make the argument if you merged the X9 and X10 routes so it was something like: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.08589...?entry=ttu, what I posted before.
You'd actually increase the number of buses from Blyth to Cramlington. If there's a big drop from Newcastle to Blyth then you wouldn't need 4 BPH doing the Cramlington to Newcastle section, and 3 BPH would be more than enough, run that throughout you've reduced the number of buses on the whole route but in fact you're actually increasing the frequency to 3 BPH from 2 BPH for most people, there's few negatives really bar the small section of Newsham Road being unserved and it's a slightly longer journey time for some to Blyth (but who the hell wants to go there anyway).
Personally if I lived on those routes, especially in the Cowpen area, I'd be happy with that change as it's positive yet reducing the PVR imo, I wouldn't give a damn about going around some fields near Bedlington or Boghouses, even if the train didn't exist tbh.
You could then turn the X8/X9 (current X11) into the direct Blyth to Cramlington services instead which might help those two services rather than the X8 kind of just existing as it does now.
(24 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm)Storx I'd personally make the argument if you merged the X9 and X10 routes so it was something like: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.08589...?entry=ttu, what I posted before.
You'd actually increase the number of buses from Blyth to Cramlington. If there's a big drop from Newcastle to Blyth then you wouldn't need 4 BPH doing the Cramlington to Newcastle section, and 3 BPH would be more than enough, run that throughout you've reduced the number of buses on the whole route but in fact you're actually increasing the frequency to 3 BPH from 2 BPH for most people, there's few negatives really bar the small section of Newsham Road being unserved and it's a slightly longer journey time for some to Blyth (but who the hell wants to go there anyway).
Personally if I lived on those routes, especially in the Cowpen area, I'd be happy with that change as it's positive yet reducing the PVR imo, I wouldn't give a damn about going around some fields near Bedlington or Boghouses, even if the train didn't exist tbh.
You could then turn the X8/X9 (current X11) into the direct Blyth to Cramlington services instead which might help those two services rather than the X8 kind of just existing as it does now.
(24 Feb 2024, 12:52 pm)mb134 Using current timings between points on your route, I get the following as times on your combined X9/10:
Blyth to Cowpen 7 mins
Cowpen to Newsham Road 13 mins
Newsham Road to Laverock 10 mins
Since it then also goes via Horton Drive on your route, that's another additional 5 mins between Newsham and Cramlington Shops vs the current X10.
Total time from Blyth Bus Station to Cramlington Shops of 47 minutes.
The X10 currently does it in 28 minutes, even the X9 manages it in 39 minutes. How is slowing the journey down by between 8-19 minutes better for anyone?
(24 Feb 2024, 12:52 pm)mb134 Using current timings between points on your route, I get the following as times on your combined X9/10:
Blyth to Cowpen 7 mins
Cowpen to Newsham Road 13 mins
Newsham Road to Laverock 10 mins
Since it then also goes via Horton Drive on your route, that's another additional 5 mins between Newsham and Cramlington Shops vs the current X10.
Total time from Blyth Bus Station to Cramlington Shops of 47 minutes.
The X10 currently does it in 28 minutes, even the X9 manages it in 39 minutes. How is slowing the journey down by between 8-19 minutes better for anyone?
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434 'branded' ahead of the line re-opening.
(27 Feb 2024, 8:23 am)Andreos1 https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...ium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3rnLGFc_u-aUuSMR1N9IE85HIjaUCFK20MazE5H1WW3O9v-AFRZyE9Ito#Echobox=1708960266-1
434 'branded' ahead of the line re-opening.
(27 Feb 2024, 8:23 am)Andreos1 https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...ium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3rnLGFc_u-aUuSMR1N9IE85HIjaUCFK20MazE5H1WW3O9v-AFRZyE9Ito#Echobox=1708960266-1
434 'branded' ahead of the line re-opening.
Geoff has been for a ride already
https://youtu.be/y0VY6Q8C4l0?si=O9U4e990WzImofFF
(06 Mar 2024, 7:17 pm)citaro5284 Geoff has been for a ride already
https://youtu.be/y0VY6Q8C4l0?si=O9U4e990WzImofFF
(06 Mar 2024, 7:17 pm)citaro5284 Geoff has been for a ride already
https://youtu.be/y0VY6Q8C4l0?si=O9U4e990WzImofFF
(06 Mar 2024, 7:17 pm)citaro5284 Geoff has been for a ride already
https://youtu.be/y0VY6Q8C4l0?si=O9U4e990WzImofFF
(06 Mar 2024, 7:17 pm)citaro5284 Geoff has been for a ride already
https://youtu.be/y0VY6Q8C4l0?si=O9U4e990WzImofFF
Rail Fares for Northumberland Line announced
https://www.northumberland.gov.uk/News/2...xI9__B2_20&mibextid=xfxF2i
To be fair I think the focus is out a little, Newbiggin would be a better terminus, but the blinkered thinking has put a dumb end at Ashington.
(09 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)54APhotography To be fair I think the focus is out a little, Newbiggin would be a better terminus, but the blinkered thinking has put a dumb end at Ashington.
(09 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)54APhotography To be fair I think the focus is out a little, Newbiggin would be a better terminus, but the blinkered thinking has put a dumb end at Ashington.