North East Buses

1604 is out on driver familiarisation today

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1506 now has new next stop announcements for 1/5/5A for the upgraded sapphire service

(30 Jan 2018, 6:26 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]The two in Faverdale yard are now branded. They are 1604/5 but as yet, only 1604 has its plates uncovered - it’s NK67EDL.

Unfortunate TLA, there.

(01 Feb 2018, 12:43 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote [ -> ]1604 is out on driver familiarisation today

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1506 now has new next stop announcements for 1/5/5A for the upgraded sapphire service

What's going to happen with the 12 and the 19?

(01 Feb 2018, 2:39 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]What's going to happen with the 12 and the 19?

Split off onto separate RTCs if I recall correctly?

(01 Feb 2018, 2:39 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]What's going to happen with the 12 and the 19?

(01 Feb 2018, 2:57 pm)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]Split off onto separate RTCs if I recall correctly?

Remaining interworking with the 1/5/5a as now

(01 Feb 2018, 3:21 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Remaining interworking with the 1/5/5a as now

Is there a known full list of fleet numbers and registrations for this batch of Streetlites?

Ta.

(01 Feb 2018, 12:43 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote [ -> ]1604 is out on driver familiarisation today

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1506 now has new next stop announcements for 1/5/5A for the upgraded sapphire service

Arriva North East: 1604 / NK67EDL by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Arriva North East: 1604 / NK67EDL by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Not 100% certain but think 1506 may have announcements for the 19 (and presumably 12) as well as it was showing 'Darlington Tubwell Row' on the screen when I saw it on the 19 to West Park.

In answer to a previous question, the maximum seating capacity is 40. Rumor has it, Arriva bought the wrong sized length of StreetLite's.

(01 Feb 2018, 2:57 pm)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]Split off onto separate RTCs if I recall correctly?

(01 Feb 2018, 3:21 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Remaining interworking with the 1/5/5a as now

The rumour at one point was the 12/19 was to come off 5 boards and interwork with each other using Solo's with three StreetLite's being instead deployed onto the 8/8A (obviously not happening now).

They bought the wrong length of StreetLite... best rumour I've heard this year 

(01 Feb 2018, 4:39 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]The rumour at one point was the 12/19 was to come off 5 boards and interwork with each other using Solo's with three StreetLite's being instead deployed onto the 8/8A (obviously not happening now).

I'm quite surprised that this hasn't happened. I was fully expecting Arriva to reduce the 19 to hourly and stick it onto the short 12s as the 12a so that they could discontinue the interworking with the 1/5/5a but keep the PVR the same. That way Darlington would have required 3 less Pulsars and could have gained 3 Optare Solo's from elsewhere in return.   

(For those interested if the 1/5/5a interworked the PVR would be 10 while the 12 and the 19's departing at :46 from Darlington would interwork with a PVR of 3 with the other 19 being 1 bus standalone with a 15 minute layover.)

(01 Feb 2018, 5:29 pm)peter wrote [ -> ]I'm quite surprised that this hasn't happened. I was fully expecting Arriva to reduce the 19 to hourly and stick it onto the short 12s as the 12a so that they could discontinue the interworking with the 1/5/5a but keep the PVR the same. That way Darlington would have required 3 less Pulsars and could have gained 3 Optare Solo's from elsewhere in return.   

(For those interested if the 1/5/5a interworked the PVR would be 10 while the 12 and the 19's departing at :46 from Darlington would interwork with a PVR of 3 with the other 19 being 1 bus standalone with a 15 minute layover.)

That option you outline would require one more bus to do than it does now, which is probably why they haven't done it.

Apparently only 9 of the 13 buses will be branded for Service 1 and 5, so read into that what you will.

The next change date for Darlington is May, so we could see changes then.

(01 Feb 2018, 6:13 pm)RobinHood wrote [ -> ]That option you outline would require one more bus to do than it does now, which is probably why they haven't done it.

Apparently only 9 of the 13 buses will be branded for Service 1 and 5, so read into that what you will.

The next change date for Darlington is May, so we could see changes then.

Agreed. Hence why I mentioned that I believe if this were to take place the 19 would be reduced to hourly to remove the standalone board and keep the PVR the same. You never know what May might bring!

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New Wrightbus: Arriva North East Wright Streetlite Max Micro Hybrid (NK67EDO/6305, (NK67EDP/1606), (NK67EDL/1604) by Exploring North East Buses, on Flickr

Arriva North East Darlington Depot Sapphire 1/5/5A Branded Streetlite 1604 (NK67 EDL) seen here in-between driver familiarisation Duties by stuart phin, on Flickr

When are the new Streetlites expected to enter service?

(01 Feb 2018, 9:27 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]When are the new Streetlites expected to enter service?

When Darlington have a suitable number of drivers signed off on them. 170 drivers with 2 buses that are taxed. 15-20 Minutes per familiarisation. My guess would be same week as Stockton service changes W/C 18th Feb

(01 Feb 2018, 6:17 pm)peter wrote [ -> ]Agreed. Hence why I mentioned that I believe if this were to take place the 19 would be reduced to hourly to remove the standalone board and keep the PVR the same. You never know what May might bring!

The reason that arriva took the 19 from scarlet band was to replace the 1/2 hourly staff shuttle to save money so hourly would cause problems

Just overtook former Arriva North East Optare Tempo 1309 on the back of a Thorntons low loader on the A1(M) near Wetherby. Thorntons looks to have done a canny job refurbishing it.

New Streetlite 1607 at Faverdale today with vinyls applied but reg plate covered.  Plus one further anonymous example (with no vinyls yet).

These latest Streetlites really suit the new livery - just wish they'd ditch the clumsy web address!

(02 Feb 2018, 12:53 pm)James101 wrote [ -> ]These latest Streetlites really suit the new livery - just wish they'd ditch the clumsy web address!

Was never planned to be incorporated, the liveries on paper look really smart...before they got edited!

(01 Feb 2018, 9:58 pm)Multi21 wrote [ -> ]When Darlington have a suitable number of drivers signed off on them. 170 drivers with 2 buses that are taxed. 15-20 Minutes per familiarisation. My guess would be same week as Stockton service changes W/C 18th Feb

Are they much different to drive to the existing Streetlites?

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(02 Feb 2018, 6:30 pm)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]Was never planned to be incorporated, the liveries on paper look really smart...before they got edited!

Certainly looks better than the new standard livery.

Bit of an update for new Streetlites
1602-NK67EDF(Docks)
1603-NK67EDJ(Docks)
1604-NK67EDL
1605-NK67EDO
1606-NK67EDP
?-NK67EDV (Possibly 1607)(in North East)
?-NK67EDX (possibly 1608)(Docks)
?-NK67EEA (possibly 1609)(Docks)
1604,1605,1606 all been delivered got its branding for 1/5/5A

(03 Feb 2018, 6:42 pm)NewcastleOne wrote [ -> ]Bit of an update for new Streetlites
1602-NK67EDF(Docks)
1603-NK67EDJ(Docks)
1604-NK67EDL
1605-NK67EDO
1606-NK67EDP
?-NK67EDV (Possibly 1607)(in North East)
?-NK67EDX (possibly 1608)(Docks)
?-NK67EEA (possibly 1609)(Docks)
1604,1605,1606 all been delivered got its branding for 1/5/5A

Does any member of this forum have a picture of the R reg darts that Darlington received new  that carried 1600 fleet numbers that were later exchanged with Liverpool and North Wales I remember seeing them parked up in Feethams before entering service.

1415 and 1441 working rail replacements between Middlesbrough and Whitby

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(03 Feb 2018, 6:53 pm)upt50k wrote [ -> ]Does any member of this forum have a picture of the R reg darts that Darlington received new  that carried 1600 fleet numbers that were later exchanged with Liverpool and North Wales I remember seeing them parked up in Feethams before entering service.

Yes I remember that.

(04 Feb 2018, 12:48 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]1415 and 1441 working rail replacements between Middlesbrough and Whitby

1441 actually broke down on its last run and was replaced by a Frequenta pulsar 1454 I believe.

In answer to Cock Robins questions. They are no different to current X1 stock however only Bishop drivers have been signed off on them.

Darlingtons 19 will not be going Hourly it provides a crew buggy from depot to town.

The PVR for the Sapphire 1/5/5A is 13 you can figure out how thats gonna work with the 12 and 19

(05 Feb 2018, 2:32 am)Multi21 wrote [ -> ]1441 actually broke down on its last run and was replaced by a Frequenta pulsar 1454 I believe.

In answer to Cock Robins questions. They are no different to current X1 stock however only Bishop drivers have been signed off on them.

Darlingtons 19 will not be going Hourly it provides a crew buggy from depot to town.

The PVR for the Sapphire 1/5/5A is 13 you can figure out how thats gonna work with the 12 and 19

They still have a Bishop rota?!
I wonder if all Redcar drivers got 15-20 mins on driving 4516?!

(03 Feb 2018, 6:42 pm)NewcastleOne wrote [ -> ]Bit of an update for new Streetlites
1602-NK67EDF(Docks)
1603-NK67EDJ(Docks)
1604-NK67EDL
1605-NK67EDO
1606-NK67EDP
?-NK67EDV (Possibly 1607)(in North East)
?-NK67EDX (possibly 1608)(Docks)
?-NK67EEA (possibly 1609)(Docks)
1604,1605,1606 all been delivered got its branding for 1/5/5A

1607 is NK67EDR.   There are four anonymous examples at Faverdale today.

(01 Feb 2018, 4:39 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Arriva North East: 1604 / NK67EDL by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Arriva North East: 1604 / NK67EDL by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

Not 100% certain but think 1506 may have announcements for the 19 (and presumably 12) as well as it was showing 'Darlington Tubwell Row' on the screen when I saw it on the 19 to West Park.

In answer to a previous question, the maximum seating capacity is 40. Rumor has it, Arriva bought the wrong sized length of StreetLite's.



The rumour at one point was the 12/19 was to come off 5 boards and interwork with each other using Solo's with three StreetLite's being instead deployed onto the 8/8A (obviously not happening now).

1506 does now have next stop announcements for the 12

(03 Feb 2018, 6:53 pm)upt50k wrote [ -> ]Does any member of this forum have a picture of the R reg darts that Darlington received new  that carried 1600 fleet numbers that were later exchanged with Liverpool and North Wales I remember seeing them parked up in Feethams before entering service.

I saw a picture of 1601 on the 21, last year, but no idea if it's still kicking about online.

Edit: one here of it on the 2. Think there's one of it on the 26, too
https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/4934875025