(04 Feb 2022, 9:26 am)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Not the same, man... they're the other way up and at a different angle! Cardiff and District Violet? 
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Go North East 5327 / NK58 DWE by kieron mathews, on Flickr
I knew I'd seen that Cardiff bus somewhere before!
(04 Feb 2022, 10:23 am)Adrian wrote [ -> ]https://twitter.com/creatingdesire/statu...2333359115
How many buzzwords can you fit into 280 characters?
It everything is carefully considered then look at the half-arsed Sunderland & District Branding or Coaster.
The road strips on the E12 don't even look that nice.
Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.
Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....
The rise in identikit branding is probably something to do with him having to let go of his decent graphic designers, he's not capable of anything beyond basic shapes, simplistic wordmarks and naff colour schemes.
I've spoken to commercial and marketing teams from other bus companies who wouldn't go back to him.
(04 Feb 2022, 12:06 pm)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]Best Impressions are probably more common than Stagecoach with their identikit branding attempts.
Surely there's some creative originality out there or is it just the old boys network sharing out the work again....
It will reduce the amount of repainting that needs doing if Go Ahead and First Bus ever merge!
I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no
(03 Feb 2022, 1:32 pm)Omega54 wrote [ -> ]i thought they were going to be the same length as the current ones which GNE already have. As GNE rarely gets anything over 11.5m and the E12 are 12.1m.
The Streetlight doesn't come in a 12m variant, neither did the Versa before that. Previous 'full size' single decker Citaros, Solars & Renowns all came it at 12m or therabouts, so GNE are happy with that length if available.
The previous batches 2 of new vehicles purchased for the 53/54 services were all of the shorter variants - the Versa at 11.1m at Streetlight at 10.8m. They subsequently went on to buy longer versions for other routes, so the E12 variant might not be a bad shout.
(04 Feb 2022, 12:59 pm)DeltaMan wrote [ -> ]I know BI gets a good bashing on this forum, but they don't give the final yes or no
Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!
(04 Feb 2022, 3:02 pm)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]Of course not, but they are proposing the exact same design to pretty much every Customer. In most industries that would be not expected!
But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back to
(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy wrote [ -> ]But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back to
They were like that because it was mainly painted liveries. Smart unified and simple.
They didn’t have the same vinyl/graphic design/printing tech as we do today.
(06 Feb 2022, 9:47 am)IRHardy wrote [ -> ]But at least these liveries are a lot better than the boring T&W PTE Yellow and White and the NBC Poppy Red that we had to put up with before deregulation in 1986, which lots of people seem to go want to go back to
Not sure how all these different brands add to the customer experience though.
One way around this, put a load of Solar Panels about 16ft to 18ft high off the surface off the depot yard, therefore they can double up as a source of electricity and undercover storage for the buses.
(08 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm)DeltaMan wrote [ -> ]Wow
https://twitter.com/NoConceptOfTime/stat...70659?s=20&t=TDpFmiu-3b0maO1bOOgCaw
Looking through the thread, he's tweeted that to get a political response, as he later admits its not something they'd consider.
I don't think it's a bad move either. He's probably got the response he wanted, but it'll be interesting to see if the Scottish Government can step in where the UK Government refuse to.
(24 Feb 2022, 4:21 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]“Go North East - Electroliner” on trial:
https://flic.kr/p/2n5moA1
https://flic.kr/p/2n5o58i
As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different
(24 Feb 2022, 4:48 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]As much as I'd love for them to go for the Electroliner for the Angel, I feel like they would discount it purely because it looks the same as the StreetDecks they already have on the Angel, so it doesn't stand out as being different
They could get Stenning to work his magic and make it look different.
Oh... On second thoughts. Maybe not.