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Go North East & MG live Facebook event have confirmation that 6101 will be making a public appearance on Sunday at Durham rally
A comment on the Facebook nebpt says the shuttle will depart from outside the BHF on Durham Road
A confirmation from Craig Smith of the Northern National Restoration Group that non of there buses will be attending tomorrow/this year
So did anyone go, then?

We pootled over (by car) for half an hour. Nice to see arriva back there but some of their offering was beginning to look like it belonged in the preserved category!
Yea. 26 buses turned up. Really Really good event
Yes was a good turn out. I think my highlight was the lothian atlantean, which I saw a few years ago under restoration at lathalmond. As usual PTE 680 was immaculately turned out.[Image: cd7e4a011a35ae64b282348be37901fa.jpg]

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Have to say attendance was a lot better than usual. Only stayed about an hour but glad l went. GNE and JH vehicles were immaculate. Got some good books too. Might try to make Shildon Rally in August.

Charles
(20 Jun 2021, 5:41 pm)Charles41 wrote [ -> ]Have to say attendance was a lot better than usual. Only stayed about an hour but glad l went. GNE and JH vehicles were immaculate. Got some good books too. Might try to make Shildon Rally in August.

Charles

Though the NEBPT offering was a bit lacklustre - only 268 in attendance from their collection (plus 2099 on loan to GNE which operated a few shuttles till it expired in Durham City mid-morning).
(20 Jun 2021, 6:18 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Though the NEBPT offering was a bit lacklustre - only 268 in attendance from their collection (plus 2099 on loan to GNE which operated a few shuttles till it expired in Durham City mid-morning).
Got told of one of the people who was running the event. That due to Covid. Most buses couldn't get MOT so 268 was the only one that had it done.
Mind, given some of the comments on social media you wonder why Arriva bother rocking up. Any effort to attend these things (at extra cost to the operator, and often at the expense of driver rest days) should be commended - or we'll reach a point where rallys stop existing at all. 

Same goes for GNE, Stagecoach and any other commercial operator. Especially given how entitled some enthusiasts are these days, wanting to be in and around all the buses at all costs.
The disablist language is quite unnecessary.
(20 Jun 2021, 6:54 pm)BusLoverMum wrote [ -> ]The disablist language is quite unnecessary.

Edited, apologies.
Didn't bother with it, but looks like a good turnout by operators, providing a good variety.

From the photos I've seen, it looks like it wasn't that well attended by the preservation community. I wonder if this is related to the dates not being good for those involved in the groups, or whether it's linked to MOT availability, as Michael alludes to. Although I wasn't aware that was still an issue, following the backlogs last year.
(20 Jun 2021, 7:06 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Didn't bother with it, but looks like a good turnout by operators, providing a good variety.

From the photos I've seen, it looks like it wasn't that well attended by the preservation community. I wonder if this is related to the dates not being good for those involved in the groups, or whether it's linked to MOT availability, as Michael alludes to. Although I wasn't aware that was still an issue, following the backlogs last year.

I'd normally give Howlands Rally a miss due to being poorly attended and organised in the past but it was a nice surprise to see quite a few out for the event and weather this afternoon no doubt helped.

I only took a few photos as I was only really interested in 6101 and the Preserved Northumbria Vehicles but again I do think for the space available it could have been better utilised, it seemed a steward from NEBPT was invisible as I had to ask a driver to move 6101 into the sun so others could get decent photos rather than shooting into the sun but other than that it was ok.

I do hope we see something bigger later in the summer once lockdown restrictions are lifted potentially at the Metrocentre but I am doubtful this will happen. 

A few photos of 6101.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/51260673315

https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/51258901442/
(20 Jun 2021, 8:00 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]I'd normally give Howlands Rally a miss due to being poorly attended and organised in the past but it was a nice surprise to see quite a few out for the event and weather this afternoon no doubt helped.

Sounds good. It was a really good day for it too

I think its worth noting, especially given its been noted elsewhere, that there again seems to have been incidents of people "helping themselves" and letting themselves onto other peoples buses.

If the doors are shut, then take the hint. If it continues, I can completely understand if this becomes a major factor in preservationists desire to attend such events and unfortunately it gives enthusiasts as a whole a bad name.

In my opinion, we've all got a responsibility to call this behavior out if we see it. Or even better, NEBPT are always looking for volunteers, so please consider volunteering as a steward.

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(20 Jun 2021, 8:23 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Sounds good. It was a really good day for it too

I think its worth noting, especially given its been noted elsewhere, that there again seems to have been incidents of people "helping themselves" and letting themselves onto other peoples buses.

If the doors are shut, then take the hint. If it continues, I can completely understand if this becomes a major factor in preservationists desire to attend such events  and unfortunately it gives enthusiasts as a whole a bad name.

In my opinion, we've all got a responsibility to call this behavior out if we see it. Or even better, NEBPT are always looking for volunteers, so please consider volunteering as a steward.

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It's ultimately the sort of thing that'll put other people off attending rallies too. 

I'd alluded to it in my previous post and rather naïvely let anger out by throwing a derogatory term the way of those involved, but it's annoying to see people (and companies) have their property completely disrespected. It's by no means the majority of enthusiasts, but as always it's the small minority who will inevitably ruin it all.

I'd think larger companies especially would start to think twice about attending when there's a chance of their assets being damaged while not in service. Then for individuals and preservation groups, I doubt they have huge budgets to be correcting things potentially damaged by folk who aren't taking no for an answer.
After talking to some people I found out

Nothing from Tyneside Heritage Vehicles as 413 had a mechanic fault After passing its MOT and THV hadn't had anything done

Nebpt said that 268 was the only bus that had been MOT so Nothing else from them

Craig Smith of the NNRG said yesterday that they weren't gonna be attending any event's this year if more go ahead as non had MOT and wanted to give one more year before attending
I did attend although only for about 30 minutes as health conditions meant I felt it was best I headed home so soon.

I think today was about as good as it could get with current circumstances especially surrounding MOT statuses with vehicles and the like and can't say I blame Bus presentationists choosing not to put stuff through MOTs and keeping stuff off the road at this moment in time when things could change at any minute as to what we can/can't do.

You somewhat have to comend GNE & Arriva plus the likes of A-Line, JH Coaches, Weardale & The Eden for bring stuff along otherwise it would've been a noticeably small selection of attendees and of course everyone else that brought stuff along too.

Hopefully be allowed to get back to some more normality soon...
Apparently it was confirmed yesterday that they got the okay for Whitly Bay and rumours were going round that Metrocentre was going ahead in July. So just have to wait and see
I'd quite like to make it to a Rally sometime,ive never actually been to one
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